Calvin Russell Official / Out Indefinitely

[IthacaBarrel]

Russell will be out until the 2027 season, the 2026 season is far from over. Can still have a very successful year without Calvin, it sucks for sure because everybody was excited to see him play but it should not derail the entire season, 7-8 wins in my opinion should be the goal, if they win 4-5 games it should not be an excuse not even remotely

 

[Briancuse]

He's not playing a snap this season. SU's just going through the motions, he's done until 27.

You never know. Stranger things have happened.

 

[richmondcuse03]

It amazes me that despite the repeated info about NIL and how it works. Every week people still don’t get how NIL works.

These are not normal contracts like a regular business. There are no insurance policies written into NIL deals. They can’t be performance based. A multi year contract doesn’t prevent the player from entering the portal after a year. Player could skip the playoffs and still get all of their NIL.

You can get insurance policies on these deals. But they’re expensive to the point where it doesn’t make financial sense. But you can get insurance on pretty much anything. There are businesses that exist now.

 

[grepal]

You never know. Stranger things have happened.

He will play in the bowl game. Book it!

 

[Ttk.gman2]

He will play in the bowl game. Book it!

Bowl game would be fun, but I don’t want to rush him back he can still have a huge 2027 as a redshirt freshman and do all the goals he has.

 

[SuFTW]

But you do? I haven’t assumed anything about his success or failure, just that his performance so far doesn’t scream potential NFL player. It’s others who are saying because he was a mediocre MAC player he’s bound to be good here. Maybe so, maybe not, but either way I doubt he’ll ever be on an NFL roster.

When all else fails, change the goal posts? He just needs to be a good player for SU. Lots of good players don’t make the NFL.

 

[qdawgg]

You can get insurance policies on these deals. But they’re expensive to the point where it doesn’t make financial sense. But you can get insurance on pretty much anything. There are businesses that exist now.

My bad then. Didn’t realize that was allowed under the NIL rules.

 

[Dinkyspond]

Thamel confirmed torn Achilles.

there is no way he is playing after a torn Achilles. Sit out, lift weights, be ready for 2027.

 

[Ttk.gman2]

there is no way he is playing after a torn Achilles. Sit out, lift weights, be ready for 2027.

2027 freshman all American

 

[MadNY3]

Thamel confirmed torn Achilles.

HSS is top notch. Great to see he was in good hands and operated on <48 hours at a phenomenal place.

 

[hungrychuck]

there is no way he is playing after a torn Achilles. Sit out, lift weights, be ready for 2027.

Agreed. He won’t be back this season, nor should we want him to be.

 

[JRHEETER]

My bad then. Didn’t realize that was allowed under the NIL rules.

It’s because it’s not on the contract it’s on the player.

They are insuring the players body because their body is what is making them the contracts /nil

Hope that made sense

 

[jgeorge322]

It’s because it’s not on the contract it’s on the player.

They are insuring the players body because their body is what is making them the contracts /nil

Hope that made sense

Is that right? A player only needs insurance if the NIL contract / contract with the school says they don’t get the money if they’re injured. My gut instinct is thats not how the contracts are structured. Rather Its the NIL counterparty / school that needs insurance if the player is injured and they don’t get the performance they in effect are paying for.

I think you may be conflating insurance a player gets for injury for loss of future earnings v NIL/rev share insurance, but I may be wrong.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[JRHEETER]

Is that right? A player only needs insurance if the NIL contract / contract with the school says they don’t get the money if they’re injured. My gut instinct is thats not how the contracts are structured. Rather Its the NIL counterparty / school that needs insurance if the player is injured and they don’t get the performance they in effect are paying for.

I think you may be conflating insurance a player gets for injury for loss of future earnings v NIL/rev share insurance, but I may be wrong.

Well NIL is not pay for play. So anyone can get NIL. NIL contracts can not hinge on if someone is playing or not.

 

[Blanko97]

It’s because it’s not on the contract it’s on the player.

They are insuring the players body because their body is what is making them the contracts /nil

Hope that made sense

this makes more sense, insurance on future earnings, not insurance on the NIL deal itself. They may use that as a valuation tool to see what they need to underwrite but it wouldn't be against the NIL itself because the deals aren't performance based.

 

[newmexicuse]

We are jinxed. Torn ACL for our highest ranked football recruit in decades. Donnie was our highest rated hoops recruit also in decades and he has had to fight the injury bug.

Calvin - good luck in your recovery !!!

 

[tptcuse]

there is no way he is playing after a torn Achilles. Sit out, lift weights, be ready for 2027.

Judging by the size of his legs in that photo he posted, eating a lot and lifting weights is going to be very important for his future. He is so naturally talented but he is a string bean.

 

[jgeorge322]

Well NIL is not pay for play. So anyone can get NIL. NIL contracts can not hinge on if someone is playing or not.

Yea but i think there’d still be a loss of value to the counterparty if the player is injured - the player loses notoriety and therefore not as beneficial to the counterparty from a marketing perspective. Wouldnt a nil contract be much more valuable if calvin had 1500 receiving yards and 10 tds?

Also calvin undoubtedly is getting rev share and now the school isnt getting the benefit of its bargain. That sounds like an insurable risk. I wonder if under the rules, if a player is injured for the year, if you can get some credit for the rev share - otherwise youre still restricted by the cap.

One thing i could see for nil insurance for a player is the insurer acts as a backstop if the nil counterparty doesnt pay/goes bankruptcy/etc.

 

[Cappy3]

When all else fails, change the goal posts? He just needs to be a good player for SU. Lots of good players don’t make the NFL.

I wasn’t the one who brought up Meeks. So who moved the goalposts?

 

[qdawgg]

It’s because it’s not on the contract it’s on the player.

They are insuring the players body because their body is what is making them the contracts /nil

Hope that made sense

Yes, that makes perfect sense. It didn’t make sense that could be in NIL contracts specifically.

 

[SuFTW]

I wasn’t the one who brought up Meeks. So who moved the goalposts?

It was you that moved the goalposts. Meeks was brought up for his performance at SU after limited stats at a previous school, not because he is an NFL practice squad player.

 

[Cuseregular]

Thamel confirmed torn Achilles.

ha!!! the surgeon is my hamilton college football bud/teammate. How ya look marty! Our best WR back in the day. Too funny

 

[wiseman3]

Thamel confirmed torn Achilles.

Doing some research, this surgeon is known for the "Speedbridge" achilles reconstruction technique, the same surgical technique used on Cam Akers when he came back to the Rams in just 5 1/2 months after tearing his. My guess would be that's why there is a chance that he could play late in the season.

 

[2B20Again]

You’re certainly entitled to your thoughts. I don’t believe we’ve ever had a guy with mediocre stats at a mid level program become someone who produces “at a high level”. But I guess we’ll see.

Don’t remember from where he came but (so) Emba ?