Understood. For me the totality of Miami's record is unimpressive.
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Still hate the idea of lesser teams hosting playoff games or getting byes. In your scenario 6, 7 and 8 would be decisive dogs against their opponents yet would be allowed to host playoff games.
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An at large should need to earn the right. It is completely subjective that they get in. Why do they deserve the home game?
Penn State and Notre Dame are ranked 3 and 4 because of the name on their jersey not their body of work. Why do they deserve a higher seed than ASU or Boise who not only have better resumes but won their conference?
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Miami not getting in hurts our bowl options in Florida I would assume. Clemson losing to SMU would also hurt. I guess we're hoping Clemson wins a close game against SMU and they both get into the playoffs
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Rewarding mediocre teams from mediocre conferences in not the answer. PSU or ND would be clear betting favorites against either of those two teams. Why on earth would you have Army hosting a playoff game? ND ran roughshod over them at Yankee Stadium.
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Say no more. They know now what they must do.
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They really need to standardize the selections.
All P4 teams should be required to play 10 P4 games and no FCS games. So either 8+2 or 9+1. This will make it easier to rank the conferences and it prevents teams from crap OOC schedules. Bigger schools can still buy two G5 home games a year, but with no FCS they can't completely take a week off. The TV networks will like this too.
With the 68 P4 schools all playing 136 OOC G5 games, on average each G5 school will play two P4 teams each year. I am sure some will play 3 and some 1, but for the most part the 68 G5 schools will get two. This prevents G5 schools from going 11-1 without earning it.
So the simple 10 P4 and no FCS requirement standardizes records and weeds out pretenders.
If Notre Dame had two more P4 instead of two of Northern Illinois, Miami OH, Army are they 12-0? 11-1? 10-2?
If Indiana instead of Western Illinois has another P4 are they still 11-1?
All P4 teams should be required to play 10 P4 games and no FCS games. So either 8+2 or 9+1. This will make it easier to rank the conferences and it prevents teams from crap OOC schedules. Bigger schools can still buy two G5 home games a year, but with no FCS they can't completely take a week off. The TV networks will like this too.
With the 68 P4 schools all playing 136 OOC G5 games, on average each G5 school will play two P4 teams each year. I am sure some will play 3 and some 1, but for the most part the 68 G5 schools will get two. This prevents G5 schools from going 11-1 without earning it.
So the simple 10 P4 and no FCS requirement standardizes records and weeds out pretenders.
If Notre Dame had two more P4 instead of two of Northern Illinois, Miami OH, Army are they 12-0? 11-1? 10-2?
If Indiana instead of Western Illinois has another P4 are they still 11-1?
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Probably not. It’s been a great year, but the team has holes. Competitive, sure.
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How do we know Penn State is not mediocre? Because of their name? The B12 is not mediocre. They have no top but they are very deep.
You should need to EARN a bid and not be handed one.
How are we any different than Alabama ?? They have 2 bad loses and they’re now 11 th! It’s absolutely ridiculous
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Well if SMU gets beaten bad do they deserve it? Close game sure.
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They should just forfeit the game then. Why would they be penalized for going undefeated in conference and not make it due to a loss in a championship game. Bama just lost by 3 TDs to a 6-6 team 2 weeks ago. And Bama has 3 losses.
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If the committee had any balls they would say the B1G plays 9 conference games and a P4 OOC, with no FCS. Then use that to leave Bama out.
SMU played 11 P4 games (9-2): 8 (ACC) + 2 (OOC P4) + 1 (ACC CG)
Bama played 9 P4 games (6-3): 8 (SEC) + 1 (OOC P4)
Hold them accountable. You really punishing a team for playing TWO more P4 games and having ONE less loss? Three more Ws?
SMU played 11 P4 games (9-2): 8 (ACC) + 2 (OOC P4) + 1 (ACC CG)
Bama played 9 P4 games (6-3): 8 (SEC) + 1 (OOC P4)
Hold them accountable. You really punishing a team for playing TWO more P4 games and having ONE less loss? Three more Ws?
They are so wishy washy on how to apply the conf title games. do they matter or not.
Some teams will get punished for losing some wont. some will get credit for winning some wont.
If you think Ala is in the why not USC? same record same conf and h2h at alabama the game came down to a 2pt conv. Since then USC has no losses and Ala 2.
the reality is there are about 6-8 teams that are in and 10-15 that are pretty much equal but SEC/B10 bias and SOS bias play out for them.
They should take the solidly in teams and set them aside. Take all the maybes which are really the 9-3 teams and just draw them out of hat, unless it comes down to 2 teams that you can really do a h2h on.
Some teams will get punished for losing some wont. some will get credit for winning some wont.
If you think Ala is in the why not USC? same record same conf and h2h at alabama the game came down to a 2pt conv. Since then USC has no losses and Ala 2.
the reality is there are about 6-8 teams that are in and 10-15 that are pretty much equal but SEC/B10 bias and SOS bias play out for them.
They should take the solidly in teams and set them aside. Take all the maybes which are really the 9-3 teams and just draw them out of hat, unless it comes down to 2 teams that you can really do a h2h on.
a forfeit would be an interesting twist. The committee guy said teams not playing will not move. so they would be locked in by not playing.
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Exactly. Make them mean what they say.
I wish more P4 teams would play G5 opponents but conference realignment makes that even more challenging.
ND beat Army when they were ranked so nothing bad about that. ND is obligated to play those ACC games so that limits flexibility too. Some of those games are easier for ND than the MAC opponents.
To me it's the totality of the schedule. Kind of reminds me of back in the Big East heyday when people used to ridicule SU cuz we didn't leave Central NY until after New Year's day. But then we would play a dozen nasty games against ranked powerhouses. It's kinda like that with the SEC. Yeah they all have a cupcake or two on their schedule but the remainder is nasty as hell.
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What, in a close game screw that. Somehow a 5 loss Alabama would make it, it seems. Rigged I say!
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10000%. I've been saying this for years. There is no point in Alabama playing Wofford
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I watch a lot of Alabama games. They're like last year's team. Can beat anyone in the country this year, or be a first round bust.
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