Chance Westry Transferring to Syracuse

[CardiacCuse]

Hey, I don't want to perpetuate any conflict, all I'm saying is, what you asked above was is he a guard or forward.

If you're question really was, what is red's role for Westry, that would have cut right more to the point.

yeah no worries

thig is I follow the team very closely...basically daily

and have zero clue how westry fits into re'd scheme i.e. position

yet reading posters and articles online...many seem to be crystal clear that he will play guard

which I dont quite understand...bc I dont think its possible to follow the team closer than I do...and I have no idea...

so just curious how people are so clear on this when it seems totally up in the air.

furthermore, when I look at the composition of the roster - 5 guards, 3 forwards approx...also makes no sense to be rumored with all the recent portal players at guard...

when I rake into account the composition of the current roster and the recently rumored players all being guards...i think it is likely westry plays forward...

 

[Sherman20]

yeah no worries

thig is I follow the team very closely...basically daily

and have zero clue how westry fits into re'd scheme i.e. position

yet reading posters and articles online...many seem to be crystal clear that he will play guard

which I dont quite understand...bc I dont think its possible to follow the team closer than I do...and I have no idea...

so just curious how people are so clear on this when it seems totally up in the air.

furthermore, when I look at the composition of the roster - 5 guards, 3 forwards approx...also makes no sense to be rumored with all the recent portal players at guard...

when I rake into account the composition of the current roster and the recently rumored players all being guards...i think it is likely westry plays forward...

Watch his tape from Auburn and also high school. He’s a really good passing and scoring guard. he can play the 1, 2 and 3 spots. He’s been injured so he’ll have to shake off a lot of rust. But from what insiders here have said and what coaches were saying, he looked really good in practice last fall and may have been ahead of Q. But since he’s been oft-injured, we have to have good backup options like Carlos, and I assume Leffew’s recruitment was part of that calculation. If Westry is healthy, he will play a lot as a sixth or seventh man at the guard spots and SF.

 

[OrangeAl]

Many people have mastered the art of factopinion.

 

[RMH44]

Also, no one here really knows Red's plan for Westry anyway. That would be a question for Red.

BINGO!

 

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furthermore, when I look at the composition of the roster - 5 guards, 3 forwards approx...also makes no sense to be rumored with all the recent portal players at guard...

when I rake into account the composition of the current roster and the recently rumored players all being guards...i think it is likely westry plays forward...

What does it mean to you to "play" forward? More importantly, what does it mean to "play" forward in Red's system?

I look at Red's roster as a composition of skill sets rather than 5 definitive guards and 3 definitive forwards. Of course, guys like Carlos will be best suited to exclusively play PG. Westry's skill sets, as judged by what he did as a prep and during his brief time at Auburn, suggest that he is much more guard than forward in a traditional sense.

For Red, I think Westry's skill set will translate as a swing-type player at the 1, 2 or 3. It doesn't matter that there are more guards than forwards because it's Westry's versatility that will get him on the floor in various roster combinations "playing" various positions based on match ups.

 

[IthacaMatt]

yeah no worries

thig is I follow the team very closely...basically daily

and have zero clue how westry fits into re'd scheme i.e. position

yet reading posters and articles online...many seem to be crystal clear that he will play guard

which I dont quite understand...bc I dont think its possible to follow the team closer than I do...and I have no idea...

so just curious how people are so clear on this when it seems totally up in the air.

furthermore, when I look at the composition of the roster - 5 guards, 3 forwards approx...also makes no sense to be rumored with all the recent portal players at guard...

when I rake into account the composition of the current roster and the recently rumored players all being guards...i think it is likely westry plays forward...

You know how Copeland fit the rotation last year?
That's Westry's role on this team, if he is healthy.

 

[Orangezoo]

You know how Copeland fit the rotation last year?
That's Westry's role on this team, if he is healthy.

Except he’s an elite defender and not a showboat.

 

[grepal]

yeah no worries

thig is I follow the team very closely...basically daily

and have zero clue how westry fits into re'd scheme i.e. position

yet reading posters and articles online...many seem to be crystal clear that he will play guard

which I dont quite understand...bc I dont think its possible to follow the team closer than I do...and I have no idea...

so just curious how people are so clear on this when it seems totally up in the air.

furthermore, when I look at the composition of the roster - 5 guards, 3 forwards approx...also makes no sense to be rumored with all the recent portal players at guard...

when I rake into account the composition of the current roster and the recently rumored players all being guards...i think it is likely westry

Except he’s an elite defender and not a showboat.

Yeah, backup at the two or the three, possibly starter at point and he might be able to push for JJs spot. I am looking forward to seeing what he can do.

 

[IthacaMatt]

Except he’s an elite defender and not a showboat.

Copeland had defensive skills, and at a certain point was playing some lock-down defense on the wing. Not consistent effort, like so many on last year's team. But he was capable, and had long-ass arms, a nose for the rebound, and poked away a lot of balls last year.

But yes, the hope is that Westry is more fundamentally sound. Copeland had swagger, though, and was a guy who could win games. I hope Westry (a) is healthy, and (b) can match that presence without playing selfishly.

 

[cusefan88]

Copeland had defensive skills, and at a certain point was playing some lock-down defense on the wing. Not consistent effort, like so many on last year's team. But he was capable, and had long-ass arms, a nose for the rebound, and poked away a lot of balls last year.

But yes, the hope is that Westry is more fundamentally sound. Copeland had swagger, though, and was a guy who could win games. I hope Westry (a) is healthy, and (b) can match that presence without playing selfishly.

It may be hard to believe but I've heard that Westry is a bit bigger than Copeland. Better wingspan as well.

 

[IthacaMatt]

It may be hard to believe but I've heard that Westry is a bit bigger than Copeland. Better wingspan as well.

He's more physical, more muscular. But I'm not so sure he's noticeably "bigger" (i.e., not 6-7) as a player.

 

[CardiacCuse]

Yeah, backup at the two or the three, possibly starter at point and he might be able to push for JJs spot. I am looking forward to seeing what he can do.

soooo...undecided

just curious how that plays into roster building...

kinda important...especially how last years roster had so many (avoidable) holes

 

[Niastri]

To be fair, we had 0 guys who were true centers or point guards by January last year.

This season will start with 2 centers and 1 point guard. The roster already seems better balanced than last year. We will have 5 combo guards to play point guard as well.

 

[AZOrange]

Except he’s an elite defender and not a showboat.

Just give CW the rock and let him go

 

[two3zone]

Just give CW the rock and let him go

He wasn't even going to start over Starling or Bell last year.

 

[Fat tire 13]

Copeland had defensive skills, and at a certain point was playing some lock-down defense on the wing. Not consistent effort, like so many on last year's team. But he was capable, and had long-ass arms, a nose for the rebound, and poked away a lot of balls last year.

But yes, the hope is that Westry is more fundamentally sound. Copeland had swagger, though, and was a guy who could win games. I hope Westry (a) is healthy, and (b) can match that presence without playing selfishly.

Our team had many deficiencies on DF with the exception of steals. Maliq and Judah led the ACC and Copeland was top 10. Some of that was taking chances (especially the guards). But we may miss generating all those turnovers and need to improve in other aspects

 

[SmilinBob]

Like every new SU transfer or freshmen he can shoot with his eyes closed, dunk from mid court and is so fast fire shoots out of his arse.

 

[Trueblue25]

He wasn't even going to start over Starling or Bell last year.

Aside from the $20 I’ll likely need to venmo you, starting hasn’t always equated to most playing time or playing during crunch time on the hill.

I just hope he can stay healthy, as everybody does

 

[jordville]

Let's go, Chance! LGO!

 

[Trueblue25]

NoDestination had reported the same info I’d receive to CuseNationNews on instagram about Chance.

Was toe to toe with Judah preseason 2023. (Shouldn’t be a surprise because Chance dominated guards we coveted in HS and right before college).

Staff is confident he’s an NBA talent.

Staff has been absolutely focused on returning him to these levels.

April 12th post available on the instagram account.

 

[RF2044]

NoDestination had reported the same info I’d receive to CuseNationNews on instagram about Chance.

Was toe to toe with Judah preseason 2023. (Shouldn’t be a surprise because Chance dominated guards we coveted in HS and right before college).

Staff is confident he’s an NBA talent.

Staff has been absolutely focused on returning him to these levels.

April 12th post available on the instagram account.

The staff expresses belief in a lot of stuff that doesn't come to pass, and then they're surprised.

Stuff like Patterson being "better" than Jesse.

Or that we needed to get our "popcorn ready" for recruiting a couple of weeks ago, when nothing came to pass.

Or that we had a legitimate chance at Kadary a few weeks ago.

Or a couple of other questionable humdingers they've proclaimed this offseason that make me doubt the reliability of information coming from the AC's even more.

So while Chance might very well be that good, you'll excuse my skepticism, given [1] that what the coaches believe / state doesn't always come to pass, and [2] he hasn't played in two years. I'd settle for him proving that he can stay healthy and contribute before I'd worry about counting on him to be a star.

 

[jr4750]

The staff expresses belief in a lot of stuff that doesn't come to pass, and then they're surprised.

Stuff like Patterson being "better" than Jesse.

Or that we needed to get our "popcorn ready" for recruiting a couple of weeks ago, when nothing came to pass.

Or that we had a legitimate chance at Kadary a few weeks ago.

Or a couple of other questionable humdingers they've proclaimed this offseason that make me doubt information coming from the AC's even more.

So while Chance might very well be that good, you'll excuse my skepticism, given [1] that what the coaches believe / state doesn't always come to pass, and [2] he hasn't played in two years. I'd settle for him proving that he can stay healthy and contribute before I'd worry about counting on him to be a star.

Exactly this. Not Reds fault per say the brand has suffered these last many years, but besides Freeman, who I think isn’t getting enough hype, we haven’t had a guy come in to be “popcorn excited,” about. They have to find a way to grind out wins and make the tourney this year. I’m all for giving Red more time but I fear another lost non-tourney year may make it impossible. I’m using this offseason as a base line. We just aren’t closing on the bigger names and that will get harder and harder.

 

[Trueblue25]

The staff expresses belief in a lot of stuff that doesn't come to pass, and then they're surprised.

Stuff like Patterson being "better" than Jesse.

Or that we needed to get our "popcorn ready" for recruiting a couple of weeks ago, when nothing came to pass.

Or that we had a legitimate chance at Kadary a few weeks ago.

Or a couple of other questionable humdingers they've proclaimed this offseason that make me doubt the reliability of information coming from the AC's even more.

So while Chance might very well be that good, you'll excuse my skepticism, given [1] that what the coaches believe / state doesn't always come to pass, and [2] he hasn't played in two years. I'd settle for him proving that he can stay healthy and contribute before I'd worry about counting on him to be a star.

Thats fine, I’m not requiring you to believe anything.

Im just trying not to pick and choose my level of faith in information thats passed along thats otherwise been reliable.

Nobody has a crystal ball for the future.

 

[RyanCuse44]

The staff expresses belief in a lot of stuff that doesn't come to pass, and then they're surprised.

Stuff like Patterson being "better" than Jesse.

Or that we needed to get our "popcorn ready" for recruiting a couple of weeks ago, when nothing came to pass.

Or that we had a legitimate chance at Kadary a few weeks ago.

Or a couple of other questionable humdingers they've proclaimed this offseason that make me doubt the reliability of information coming from the AC's even more.

So while Chance might very well be that good, you'll excuse my skepticism, given [1] that what the coaches believe / state doesn't always come to pass, and [2] he hasn't played in two years. I'd settle for him proving that he can stay healthy and contribute before I'd worry about counting on him to be a star.

It seems like most of this pertains to one certain coach who shall remain nameless.

 

[UpstateSM]

I thought Chance would be our best player last season if he was 100% and I feel that way again this season. But that is a pretty gd big "if" at this point.