Chance Westry Transferring to Syracuse

[djcon57]

They hired that analytics guy. Hoping they can comb through the +/- numbers and how effective certain lineup combos are to find the right mix.

Obviously it's EXTREMELY limited data set (9 possessions), but interesting that the the best 5 man lineup is the one I think most on the board want to see more of.

EvanMiya CBB Analytics

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evanmiya.com

 

[cusefan88]

Obviously it's EXTREMELY limited data set (9 possessions), but interesting that the the best 5 man lineup is the one I think most on the board want to see more of.

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thank you, I only catch some of Miya's work. Didn't realize there were more specifics on a team-by-team basis.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Obviously it's EXTREMELY limited data set (9 possessions), but interesting that the the best 5 man lineup is the one I think most on the board want to see more of.

EvanMiya CBB Analytics

Advanced college basketball analytics used widely by coaches, journalists, and fans.

evanmiya.com

Lol Chris Bell on all the best lineups.

Whodathunk.

 

[Orangezoo]

Lol Chris Bell on all the best lineups.

Whodathunk.

Carlos has stood out as the major problem. Giving nothing on offense along with being a minus defender.

 

[721Comstock]

Lol Chris Bell on all the best lineups.

Whodathunk.

Is EvanMiya = Chris Bell?

Or Chris Bell’s dad?

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Is EvanMiya = Chris Bell?

Or Chris Bell’s dad?

 

[djcon57]

Lol Chris Bell on all the best lineups.

Whodathunk.

Who else do we have to play his position?

I would expect Lampkin, JJ, and Bell to be in all the lineups and if they aren’t, it’s a major problem

 

[grepal]

Wrong the perfect number which Jim only got once was 8. The starting 5 in 2003, and Pace, McNeal, and Billy.

Tongue in cheek.

 

[two3zone]

Is EvanMiya = Chris Bell?

Or Chris Bell’s dad?

Red?

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

So, our strategy is hope, pray, and leave it to Chance?!

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

Lol Chris Bell on all the best lineups.

Whodathunk.

At worst, he has to be accounted for at all times.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Who else do we have to play his position?

I mean, you realize that question is another hilarious example of how the guy can't ever get credit for anything.

 

[Niastri]

Lol Chris Bell on all the best lineups.

Whodathunk.

I think you're probably not surprised, based on your tone. But just in case...

When your most successful shooter is getting faceguarded out at the three point line, it makes everything easier for the other four players, even if he isn't making shots at a high rate. Bell is transferring some of his efficiency to other players because they aren't getting guarded as closely.

Bell also has improved his non shooting abilities in a few areas. His rebounding is marginally better, he's given out a lot more assists, and he's cut back his turnovers. This while he's kept the same ~20% usage rate. The eye test says he's also improved his defense, which would also affect efficiency.

When the threes start falling again, he's going to look like a really good player to the advanced stats.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

I think you're probably not surprised, based on your tone. But just in case...

When your most successful shooter is getting faceguarded out at the three point line, it makes everything easier for the other four players, even if he isn't making shots at a high rate. Bell is transferring some of his efficiency to other players because they aren't getting guarded as closely.

Bell also has improved his non shooting abilities in a few areas. His rebounding is marginally better, he's given out a lot more assists, and he's cut back his turnovers. This while he's kept the same ~20% usage rate. The eye test says he's also improved his defense, which would also affect efficiency.

When the threes start falling again, he's going to look like a really good player to the advanced stats.

As the hype man for The Chris Bell Experience, I say to you, well said.

 

[djcon57]

I mean, you realize that question is another hilarious example of how the guy can't ever get credit for anything.

No, it's another hilarious example how we refused to recruit over him or give him any competition. We literally don't have another 3 and D SF on the team.

And just to reiterate, I think Bell is a GREAT shooter. He's an asset to a team with his shooting. His D is liability. That's always been my opinion

For a better example of his D being a liability, look at the 22-23 lineups, he's on none of them.

 

[Niastri]

The cybernetic leg looks like a decent fit.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

The cybernetic leg looks like a decent fit.

$6 mil worth of NIL funds.

 

[CardiacCuse]

Just throwing a bigger guard at the top could make a huge difference even if Chance isn't game ready. We just need some minutes at defense.

Chance is 6'6 205 and long. Carlos is 6' 180.

theres alos the sentimntal aspect (that none of us care about...but red does)

carlos is in his snerior year and that is a big deal for ncaa players

maybe once westry plays he will have no choice but to bench carlos and he feels bad for bringing himto get benched his senior year???

that would be best case scenario...as long as red actually ends up benching carlos

 

[Niastri]

theres alos the sentimntal aspect (that none of us care about...but red does)

carlos is in his snerior year and that is a big deal for ncaa players

maybe once westry plays he will have no choice but to bench carlos and he feels bad for bringing himto get benched his senior year???

that would be best case scenario...as long as red actually ends up benching carlos

Red recruited Carlos to be a backup. Everyone knew Westry and portal PG were plan A.

Carlos didn't walk into the situation delusional. If he did, it wasn't Red's fault.

Carlos only became the starter because Red struck out on other PGs, Westry was ill, and Cuffe/Starling didn't develop.

It's great that we're 3-0 with plan D at point guard, but it would be awesome if something else happened. Westry suddenly being healthy and the guy we recruited two years ago would be amazing.

I don't think Moore and Starling being starting combo guards together is exactly the best plan either, but sometimes plan E turns out better than plan D.

 

[Zelda Zonk]

Chance is shown in multiple pics on Instagram practicing and scrimmaging as of 2 hours ago…

Build him a bubble in his apartment. Make him wear hazmat suits and a helmet to class and meals. No contagions or contact. Preserve that kid.

 

[FrancoPizza]

Red recruited Carlos to be a backup. Everyone knew Westry and portal PG were plan A.

Carlos didn't walk into the situation delusional. If he did, it wasn't Red's fault.

Carlos only became the starter because Red struck out on other PGs, Westry was ill, and Cuffe/Starling didn't develop.

It's great that we're 3-0 with plan D at point guard, but it would be awesome if something else happened. Westry suddenly being healthy and the guy we recruited two years ago would be amazing.

I don't think Moore and Starling being starting combo guards together is exactly the best plan either, but sometimes plan E turns out better than plan D.

I’d rather the staff admit that Carlos was plan b or c instead of saying he’s the next Tyler Ennis.

 

[Red2003]

Red recruited Carlos to be a backup. Everyone knew Westry and portal PG were plan A.

Carlos didn't walk into the situation delusional. If he did, it wasn't Red's fault.

Carlos only became the starter because Red struck out on other PGs, Westry was ill, and Cuffe/Starling didn't develop.

It's great that we're 3-0 with plan D at point guard, but it would be awesome if something else happened. Westry suddenly being healthy and the guy we recruited two years ago would be amazing.

I don't think Moore and Starling being starting combo guards together is exactly the best plan either, but sometimes plan E turns out better than plan D.

This is where I’m at too. I think the Lemoyne game really rattled Carlos then Colgate’s Cox made it worse then Youngstown crushed him the rest of the way mentally.

He has physical limitations but not to the extreme level that lines up with how bad he’s playing. Its mostly in his head and that’s because he probably sees the writing on the wall that he’s better as a supporting cast member than leading the team.

Oh and all the talk of watching practice and Cuffe and Groot playing lights out. You know who else was great in practice? Mr Justin Taylor, same guy that some of you probably boo’ed last year.

 

[orangefog]

I am no expert, but I watched my share of the 6 Million Dollar Man back in the day. And, if I am not mistaken, and I'm not, THAT is a bionic left leg on Chance Westry. And, I believe he has been held out while they perfect the complicated software that allows him to control such a dangerous weapon. That, and he may have been battling Bigfoot.

 

[Bulldog04]

I’d rather the staff admit that Carlos was plan b or c instead of saying he’s the next Tyler Ennis.

It was. Dakota L was plan A. He committed and backed out