Cisco possibly out for the season???

[orange79]

I can't believe this is for real ...
My goodness

 

[Orijinal]

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Laff! I wish I could react to posts on my mobile device, so the best I can give this is a like.

This one wants to make me laugh and cry at the same time

 

[SU in Hershey]

Extremely unpopular opinion time.

His absence won't be as significant as it may seem. David Hale was tweeting stats all summer about defensive backs, and Cisco ranked at the bottom of several metrics among ACC DBs (Including one of the worst QBR against in the league). In many ways, Cisco was a liability last year. While he is fantastic when coming up to the ball, he was awful in coverage and got beat over the top repeatedly last year. I was at the Louisville game, and he was picked on the whole time - and got torched numerous times.

Maybe he was victim of scheme and/or worked on that element of his game in the off-season. But the D played the same without him on Saturday.

I can respect that opinion, but still think it’s a negative. I think he was very good in run support and we could use that based on the GT game (but that can be coached, too).

 

[Orangejet]

Fake news!

 

[Alsacs]

Cisco is a ball hawk but he isn’t as good in pass coverage. He bites a lot on double moves.

He is a playmaker but the one position on defense we have depth is the secondary.

I just hope Cisco stays on the sidelines during the games and supports his teammates.
Players need to take care of themselves this year and the amount of wins we get doesn’t affect bowl eligibility.

 

[cuse10]

Cisco is a ball hawk but he isn’t as good in pass coverage. He bites a lot on double moves.

He is a playmaker but the one position on defense we have depth is the secondary.

I just hope Cisco stays on the sidelines during the games and supports his teammates.
Players need to take care of themselves this year and the amount of wins we get doesn’t affect bowl eligibility.

You're not considered an elite safety if you're not good in pass coverage.

 

[AAM62]

McAllister bomb

 

[AAM62]

I liked what Hanna was doing out there but he doesn’t look physically ready to play a full season yet. This will be tough when we face more downhill running teams.

 

[SUskibum]

Extremely unpopular opinion time.

His absence won't be as significant as it may seem. David Hale was tweeting stats all summer about defensive backs, and Cisco ranked at the bottom of several metrics among ACC DBs (Including one of the worst QBR against in the league). In many ways, Cisco was a liability last year. While he is fantastic when coming up to the ball, he was awful in coverage and got beat over the top repeatedly last year. I was at the Louisville game, and he was picked on the whole time - and got torched numerous times.

Maybe he was victim of scheme and/or worked on that element of his game in the off-season. But the D played the same without him on Saturday.

Whether or not this is true, is unbelievably inappropriate to post about someone in our family who just had a season ending injury which surely negatively affected his draft stock (and future income) though we hope it’s not hurt too much

also some NFL team is going to display a disagreement with Hales tweets by drafting Dre in the first 3-4 rounds. I’ll side with the NFL teams

you should consider deleting your post

 

[Alsacs]

You're not considered an elite safety if you're not good in pass coverage.

Cisco is a strong safety not a free safety.
The free safety has to be better in pass coverage.
Strong safety plays closer to the LOS, makes more tackles and gambles for picks.
Cisco has been burned when he played away from the LOS and was the free safety.
The Louisville game last year I remember multiple times he got burned when he was the free safety.
He is a good player and can’t wait to see him go pro he isn’t Grant Delpit. He is more Jamal Adams type.
Adams isn’t good in coverage he got abused by Julian Edelman but put him closer to the LOS and he makes plays.

Cisco isn’t a free safety.

 

[LeMoyneCuse]

you should consider deleting your post

If the mods want to delete it, that's their decision. I love Cisco as a player, care about his health and well-being, want him to be drafted, and have an incredibly successful NFL career.

But I've seen far worse things said about players and people on this board.

 

[orange79]

Laff! I wish I could react to posts on my mobile device, so the best I can give this is a like.

This one wants to make me laugh and cry at the same time

If you press lightly and hold your finger there, the reaction options should pop up. At least they do for me.

 

[Qbobby]

Cisco is a strong safety not a free safety.
The free safety has to be better in pass coverage.
Strong safety plays closer to the LOS, makes more tackles and gambles for picks.
Cisco has been burned when he played away from the LOS and was the free safety.
The Louisville game last year I remember multiple times he got burned when he was the free safety.
He is a good player and can’t wait to see him go pro he isn’t Grant Delpit. He is more Jamal Adams type.
Adams isn’t good in coverage he got abused by Julian Edelman but put him closer to the LOS and he makes plays.

Cisco isn’t a free safety.

Exactly, like a Troy Polamalu . Tremendous ball hawk, great instincts. Troy wasn't a great one on one cover guy, but he had a nose for the ball and was right place right time.

 

[Chip]

If you press lightly and hold your finger there, the reaction options should pop up. At least they do for me.

This lesson works on so many levels.

Take note, exploring teenagers.

 

[Cusester]

This lesson works on so many levels.

Take note, exploring teenagers.

 

[upperdeck]

I found it interesting that he was injured yet allowed to be in the bench area and not using crutches during the game. I get that they didnt know the extent yet but wouldnt you use caution if you thought it was more severe than a sprain or something? DIdnt even look like it was really being iced either?

 

[NineOneSeven]

Not too surprising to me. Whatever happens, best of luck. Another opportunity for the young gang to keep getting playing time heading into next year. I don't think this is an issue really, other than obviously wanting a great player to go out on their terms, and injuries suck.

 

[syrBossHogg]

That's a huge bummer if true, even though we have good talent in the secondary it's always nice to have depth.

Looking forward to watching him get drafted and represent SU well in the NFL.

 

[money3189]

I liked what Hanna was doing out there but he doesn’t look physically ready to play a full season yet. This will be tough when we face more downhill running teams.

Hanna is very active, plays hard and he is not afraid. This has me excited to see his progression once he put on additional size and strength but I fear the same things you mentioned. I don’t like to rain on parades. That’s why I’m reluctant to comment much during the season. I don’t want it to come across as negative to you guys. I just think like a coach and watch the games that way. I wish I didn’t but I can’t help it. Lol. I see a lot of good things that are sustainable but I also see things that can be exposed down the road.

 

[Trueblue25]

I liked what Hanna was doing out there but he doesn’t look physically ready to play a full season yet. This will be tough when we face more downhill running teams.

Jonas will need to step up.

 

[Orijinal]

If you press lightly and hold your finger there, the reaction options should pop up. At least they do for me.

Still no go. Oh well. Thanks, though

 

[PatMark]

FWIW, I've been told that Cisco was contemplating opting out in August. This is surely a wake up call and another way to protect himself for the future.

 

[AAM62]

Jonas will need to step up.

Indeed. He looked a little slow to me but I could be wrong.

 

[AAM62]

Hanna is very active, plays hard and he is not afraid. This has me excited to see his progression once he put on additional size and strength but I fear the same things you mentioned. I don’t like to rain on parades. That’s why I’m reluctant to comment much during the season. I don’t want it to come across as negative to you guys. I just think like a coach and watch the games that way. I wish I didn’t but I can’t help it. Lol. I see a lot of good things that are sustainable but I also see things that can be exposed down the road.

BEAR'S DAD probably loves his south Florida mentality though

 

[Louie and Bouie]

Extremely unpopular opinion time.

His absence won't be as significant as it may seem. David Hale was tweeting stats all summer about defensive backs, and Cisco ranked at the bottom of several metrics among ACC DBs (Including one of the worst QBR against in the league). In many ways, Cisco was a liability last year. While he is fantastic when coming up to the ball, he was awful in coverage and got beat over the top repeatedly last year. I was at the Louisville game, and he was picked on the whole time - and got torched numerous times.

Maybe he was victim of scheme and/or worked on that element of his game in the off-season. But the D played the same without him on Saturday.

A backdoor hedge that the Defense won't be worse without him? That's a ridiculous proposition imo. He has had his flaws (as ALL our players do) but he's been a huge playmaker on the backside of the Defense and is much better prepared than anyone replacing him from a physical and experience standpoint.