Clock Mis(management)

[Eric15]

Obviously yesterday was euphoric -- I've watched the YouTube full game highlights like 4 times already. But the one thing that really needs to be tightened up is clock management and situational awareness.

There were a handful of times yesterday late in the game when we were snapping the ball with partial or even completely full play clocks. That's literally just gifting time and additional play opportunities to Clemson. In one instance Rickie snapped the ball with over 30 seconds left on the play clock very late in the 2nd half when we were clinging to our lead. And then there were a couple instances when we threw the ball and stopped the clock, when we only should have been running or throwing extremely safe and high percentage throws.

I feel like this is more on the coaches than the players. I'm hoping that can be rectified moving forward.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

How many high percentage passes did we drop in the 4th qtr?

 

[721Comstock]

Obviously yesterday was euphoric -- I've watched the YouTube full game highlights like 4 times already. But the one thing that really needs to be tightened up is clock management and situational awareness.

There were a handful of times yesterday late in the game when we were snapping the ball with partial or even completely full play clocks. That's literally just gifting time and additional play opportunities to Clemson. In one instance Rickie snapped the ball with over 30 seconds left on the play clock very late in the 2nd half when we were clinging to our lead. And then there were a couple instances when we threw the ball and stopped the clock, when we only should have been running or throwing extremely safe and high percentage throws.

I feel like this is more on the coaches than the players. I'm hoping that can be rectified moving forward.

Agreed 144%.

2x on 3rd and short-medium, we had Ricky throw rather than Yasin run.

Even IF Yasin doesn’t get the 1st down, another nearly :40 seconds each time would have run off the clock.

Instead we had 2 incomplete passes, effectively gifting Clempsum 2 free TO’s.

While I “get” wanting what you think is your best play to pick up the 1st down is being aggressive, and IF you get it
(Especially the later one) that could be pretty much ballgame.

We got lucky that neither of those came back to bite us in the arse.

 

[Cuse On 3]

We haven’t seen too much bad clock management under Fran and company, I think this was a rare exception and was definitely odd to see. I’m not worried

 

[Scooch]

We haven’t seen too much bad clock management under Fran and company, I think this was a rare exception and was definitely odd to see. I’m not worried

I don’t sweat the run-pass play calls too much. You can argue either way about that. But they have on several occasions not milked the play clock in late game situations.

If we had a functioning press in Syracuse someone would ask Fran about that. Alas.

 

[Cuse On 3]

I don’t sweat the run-pass play calls too much. You can argue either way about that. But they have on several occasions not milked the play clock in late game situations.

If we had a functioning press in Syracuse someone would ask Fran about that. Alas.

I respect your observation

 

[bigmike]

Yes, yes, yes. Yesterday the clock was our friend at the end of the game. You cannot allow it to stop for any reason. Throwing it can 1) result in an incompletion; 2) result in an interception or 3) result in a short completion. 1 and 2 are bad, and 3 can be replaced by simply running the ball.

 

[tptcuse]

How many high percentage passes did we drop in the 4th qtr?

I don't know the answer to your question: I had to listen to the 4th Quarter in the car with Matt Park on the call. I like his interviewing but people here are not exaggerating when they say he calls the game like a tv announcer would. I had no idea what was happening.

 

[hoopsupstate]

I think one of the early snaps was when the clock was stopped and the play clock was running down. It would have made no difference. Passing instead of running the ball drove me nuts, but two of those passes we safe passes and Willis and one of our receivers flat out dropped the ball. Both times the clock would have continued to run even after the catch.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

I think we had to make them burn their TOs and we didn’t. It orooonged the game.

It was funny we started a drive and took the play clock to 1 with the clock not running. The announcers said we were in kill clock mode and will run the play clock down. We then proceeded to run plays with the clock running and just under 20 on the play clock.

 

[upperdeck]

we were gaining zero yds running. Throwing safe passes that should be caught is not a bad thing. Much like running and fumbling is a bad thing. We threw passes that have to be caught and force a tackle 3 yds down field. Thats not a bad call. thats bad execution.

 

[Scotch]

Yes, yes, yes. Yesterday the clock was our friend at the end of the game. You cannot allow it to stop for any reason. Throwing it can 1) result in an incompletion; 2) result in an interception or 3) result in a short completion. 1 and 2 are bad, and 3 can be replaced by simply running the ball.

But getting first downs is massive. Running three times into the line and punting isn’t doing us any favors. It’s always a balance of runs and safe throws. I trust Nixon.

 

[ImperialOrange]

Perhaps with a fully healthy Willis we try and run but I don't hate not running into a 8 man front of future NFL players who are over playing the run

 

[Scooch]

I don't know the answer to your question: I had to listen to the 4th Quarter in the car with Matt Park on the call. I like his interviewing but people here are not exaggerating when they say he calls the game like a tv announcer would. I had no idea what was happening.

He’s a uniquely terrible radio play by play guy for football. Simply stating down and distance is a foreign concept.

 

[MGraves5]

Obviously yesterday was euphoric -- I've watched the YouTube full game highlights like 4 times already. But the one thing that really needs to be tightened up is clock management and situational awareness.

There were a handful of times yesterday late in the game when we were snapping the ball with partial or even completely full play clocks. That's literally just gifting time and additional play opportunities to Clemson. In one instance Rickie snapped the ball with over 30 seconds left on the play clock very late in the 2nd half when we were clinging to our lead. And then there were a couple instances when we threw the ball and stopped the clock, when we only should have been running or throwing extremely safe and high percentage throws.

I feel like this is more on the coaches than the players. I'm hoping that can be rectified moving forward.

Yes they should have run the clock down more before snapping. The pass plays would not have been issue if Angelini had still been in the game, they probably would have been successful.

 

[tptcuse]

He’s a uniquely terrible radio play by play guy for football. Simply stating down and distance is a foreign concept.

I might be exaggerating, but it seemed like he said how much time was left on the clock maybe three times from the 10 minute mark until the end of the game. Also, at one point he said that Cook had only caught two passes. He corrected himself and muttered something about the stat sheet he was looking at being wrong.

 

[JeremyCuse]

Obviously yesterday was euphoric -- I've watched the YouTube full game highlights like 4 times already. But the one thing that really needs to be tightened up is clock management and situational awareness.

There were a handful of times yesterday late in the game when we were snapping the ball with partial or even completely full play clocks. That's literally just gifting time and additional play opportunities to Clemson. In one instance Rickie snapped the ball with over 30 seconds left on the play clock very late in the 2nd half when we were clinging to our lead. And then there were a couple instances when we threw the ball and stopped the clock, when we only should have been running or throwing extremely safe and high percentage throws.

I feel like this is more on the coaches than the players. I'm hoping that can be rectified moving forward.

10000%, I was losing my mind during the game with some of the bizarre clock management decisions. The 3rd and long passes no where near the sticks when we could have just run wete mind boggling.

 

[JeremyCuse]

I don't know the answer to your question: I had to listen to the 4th Quarter in the car with Matt Park on the call. I like his interviewing but people here are not exaggerating when they say he calls the game like a tv announcer would. I had no idea what was happening.

I like Matt Park but he is unlistenable calling fball games and told him this last year. Great bball announcer but your better off following the espn gamecast then the radio feed. I defy you to have any idea what's happening 90% of the time.

 

[tptcuse]

I like Matt Park but he is unlistenable calling fball games and told him this last year. Great bball announcer but your better off following the espn gamecast then the radio fees. I defy you to have any idea what's happening 90% of the time.

And I was driving so had no choice but to listen to him on Sirius XM, or listen to the Clemson broadcast, which I was not going to do.

 

[JeremyCuse]

But getting first downs is massive. Running three times into the line and punting isn’t doing us any favors. It’s always a balance of runs and safe throws. I trust Nixon.

Calling a 3 yard pass on 3rd and 13 and it going incomplete is pointless. Run the ball and take 50+ seconds off the clock or force Clemson to take another TO. Same thing on 3rd and 7 with 3 min left, you have to run the ball there

 

[JeremyCuse]

And I was driving so had no choice but to listen to him on Sirius XM, or listen to the Clemson broadcast, which I was not going to do.

I'd rather listen to the Clemson feed to be honest at least you'll know if the run play went for 3 or 33 yards

 

[Newhouser]

Calling a 3 yard pass on 3rd and 13 and it going incomplete is pointless. Run the ball and take 50+ seconds off the clock or force Clemson to take another TO. Same thing on 3rd and 7 with 3 min left, you have to run the ball there

Exactly. Back up QB, big lead, run the ball against 11 man fronts and force time outs, and run play clock to 1 before every snap. Don't complicate it.

 

[upperdeck]

we had 3rd and 13. We threw a simple 5-7 yd pass to cook He makes a guy miss and maybe he gets a 1st down, Cook should not be dropping that pass,

We probably could have dialed back a couple. with a 3 score lead they tried to stay aggressive with simple pass mostly

 

[JeremyCuse]

we had 3rd and 13. We threw a simple 5-7 yd pass to cook He makes a guy miss and maybe he gets a 1st down, Cook should not be dropping that pass,

We probably could have dialed back a couple. with a 3 score lead they tried to stay aggressive with simple pass mostly

The 3rd and 13 pass was like a 3 Yarder, no where close to 7

 

[CuseFan]

The 3rd and 13 pass was like a 3 Yarder, no where close to 7

I screamed the same at the tv. If you are going to pass 3-5 yards and not likely get the first down anyway, then just run in and keep the clock going even if you get no gain. Yes the pass should have been caught, but it obviously wasn't and we gave them a free timeout.