Coach Search Options after Autry

[LAorange44]

I think you have it backwards, would Hop come back as an assistant to the younger up and coming head coach who is in demand

The BOT finds your insinuation of a Hop/GMAC tandem very exciting

 

[DilemaCuse]

We have some great posters here making such well articulated points. Can we get some of y'all on the local talk radio, podcasts and on Axe’s show to spread the gospel of why Hop would be an absolutely horrendous hire? I’m not kidding here. We have to push back on Paulie and Infanti and Axe and others from rationalizing this hire as it goes further down the tracks. Media pushback will be key to getting into the decision makers ears before they make another massive mistake.

I might have to keep calling in if the trusted posters on here, who I appreciate for what they share, continue to share that this is a possibility.

 

[Blanko97]

There are 20 national media members with ties to Syracuse? Probably about right because those are the only people who would vote yes.

that or they are the media for syracuse's opponents who want their guys to get free wins

 

[Cusefan0307]

Maybe I know a lot of weird people, but in my personal life, I don't know of a single relative or friend who's a STH that will give up their tix, whether its Hodgson or Hop or Schertz or Gmac or Bulldong04 as the next head coach.

You can sell tickets with Hodgson me thinks. With Hopkins you aren’t. It’s just the extension of Boeheim with the D team.

 

[powdersmack]

The only remotely logical explanation for the BOT and donors to be even considering Hop is that they thoroughly enjoy the morgue-like silence of the Dome that Red has gifted them, and they can't countenance the thought of a once again energized Dome filled to the rafters.

 

[RedtheGOB]

I'm as frustrated as alot of people here with how crazy we are starting to look. I get that nothing hurts a wide net. Even crazier when we start talking about AD's being floated.

Does anyone have a full list of candidates at this point being floated that can be pinned?

-Hodgson
-Hopkins
-Hart
-GMAC
-Schertz
-Murray

Also what does Vegas know, this was posted 2 days ago?

5 Replacement Candidates If Syracuse Fires Adrian Autry

If Syracuse fires head coach Adrian Autry, these are five potential names they could look to interview as a replacement.

sports.betmgm.com

 

[Cusefan0307]

I'm as frustrated as alot of people here with how crazy we are starting to look. I get that nothing hurts a wide net. Even crazier when we start talking about AD's being floated.

Does anyone have a full list of candidates at this point being floated that can be pinned?

-Hodgson
-Hopkins
-Hart
-GMAC
-Schertz
-Murray

Also what does Vegas know, this was posted 2 days ago?

5 Replacement Candidates If Syracuse Fires Adrian Autry

If Syracuse fires head coach Adrian Autry, these are five potential names they could look to interview as a replacement.

sports.betmgm.com

Good god that’s horrible.

 

[DilemaCuse]

The BOT finds your insinuation of a Hop/GMAC tandem very exciting

Haha, uggh can some of you please get out of the CNY Cuse bubble. Like its ok if the coach isnt from SU, they might you know actually be able to coach and win, lol.

This is like Alabama football fans who never wanted anyone outside of the Bear Bryant affiliation from being head coach or anyone outside of the South. You see that now with how they hate Deboer who isn't from the South, almost immediately.

 

[Fly Rodder]

Good god that’s horrible.

And apparently Schertz isn't even a real candidate unless they blow him away with money. So one guy who has openly campaigned for the job for years, three SU alums, and an assistant from UConn.

Never bet on the SU BOT making an inspiring choice ...

 

[DilemaCuse]

I'm as frustrated as alot of people here with how crazy we are starting to look. I get that nothing hurts a wide net. Even crazier when we start talking about AD's being floated.

Does anyone have a full list of candidates at this point being floated that can be pinned?

-Hodgson
-Hopkins
-Hart
-GMAC
-Schertz
-Murray

Also what does Vegas know, this was posted 2 days ago?

5 Replacement Candidates If Syracuse Fires Adrian Autry

If Syracuse fires head coach Adrian Autry, these are five potential names they could look to interview as a replacement.

sports.betmgm.com

No Hodgson? Kim English? Isnt he about to be fired at PC?

Enfield I could live with but he just lost to Red, in a game in which Red managed well but yikes.

 

[rrlbees]

Season ticket sales have cratered the last five years or more. Attendance is a joke now.

and still top 5 in the country. little old syracuse ny. in reality we were spoiled by the huge numbers we used to get.

 

[rrlbees]

I'm as frustrated as alot of people here with how crazy we are starting to look. I get that nothing hurts a wide net. Even crazier when we start talking about AD's being floated.

Does anyone have a full list of candidates at this point being floated that can be pinned?

-Hodgson
-Hopkins
-Hart
-GMAC
-Schertz
-Murray

Also what does Vegas know, this was posted 2 days ago?

5 Replacement Candidates If Syracuse Fires Adrian Autry

If Syracuse fires head coach Adrian Autry, these are five potential names they could look to interview as a replacement.

sports.betmgm.com

no hodgson but his asst? weird.

 

[Fly Rodder]

and still top 5 in the country. little old syracuse ny. in reality we were spoiled by the huge numbers we used to get.

My god, you’re exhausting. May as well run it back with Red with this philosophy.

 

[5OutFred]

We have to push back on Paulie and Infanti and Axe and others from rationalizing this hire as it goes further down the tracks. Media pushback will be key to getting into the decision makers ears before they make another massive mistake.

Someone called in last week articulating that even if he gets good players, as he did at Washington, which is the pitch for him to Cuse, it doesn't prove he can coach or lead to success, given how poorly he did there...they called his record "puzzling."

This is what we're up against here. Keep pushing.

 

[Hawknate144]

No Hodgson? Kim English? Isnt he about to be fired at PC?

Enfield I could live with but he just lost to Red, in a game in which Red managed well but yikes.

Enfield is a Hopkins Alum, not sure we could trust him.

 

[Orangezoo]

and still top 5 in the country. little old syracuse ny. in reality we were spoiled by the huge numbers we used to get.

This a major stretch. We have the biggest on campus capacity and it’s averaging what - 50 pct or less? It reads of being complacent and just saying be glad we have a basketball program in a big conference and that’s enough.

I would tie attendance expectations directly with program performance personally.

 

[pearl31]

Sorry Bro

Has anyone asked if the big bad Bryan “The Shark” Hodgson would serve as Hop’s top assistant and ace recruiter???? A foot in the door might help land his dream job one day.

you should consider posting less, at least in this thread

 

[Domedog84]

Nah nobody knows anything. Hopefully this search can carry on professionally and doesn’t turn into a distraction. Gupster has a big game against…. (checks schedule)…. Tulane to prepare for.

Oh I am not talking about your weird obsession with tearing down Hodgson, that is easy to ignore. I am talking about the real stuff from people that have connections to the university and have a history of always siding with their decisions and telling the rest of us we are wrong.

 

[rrlbees]

My god, you’re exhausting. May as well run it back with Red with this philosophy.

it's not a philosophy and not even about who the coach is which i made clear.

 

[Sherman20]

The same comments on no movement on offense. Unless Hop has studied the game and changed his coaching philosophy dramatically since then, he would just be an extension of Red and JB's final years.

I used to follow this writer, Max Vrooman (lol), from the Washington Huskies fan site regularly during Hop’s tenure there. He’s very adept with analytics and data, and he became highly critical of Hop as the years went on. The data is horrendous on Hop as a head coach. Everyone should read these posts, but a few choice quotes:

“My model had the Huskies projected for an adjusted efficiency margin of +16.6 this year which would’ve been the best team of the Mike Hopkins era. That’s because on paper this roster had the most talent of any Hop team, even the one that made the NCAA tournament….Washington would’ve been even higher if not for that pesky little problem of Mike Hopkins being the coach. Hopkins entered the year with the lowest coaching grade in my system of any P6 coach that had more than 2 years experience….That would’ve been good for 57th among P6 schools…Yet as has almost always been the case during the Mike Hopkins era, Washington ended up worse than even the full coaching adjustment would’ve suggested. The Huskies finished with an aEM of +13.0 and ranked 48th among P6 schools (and 60th including mid-majors). That cemented that Hopkins would finish with a negative coaching grade in all 7 of his season with the Huskies.”

Assessing the Mike Hopkins Conundrum

Should the Husky head man be retained despite 2 years of disappointing results?

www.uwdawgpound.com

Revisiting UWDP Men’s Basketball Team Projections

Taking a look at which teams my model correctly pegged in the preseason

www.uwdawgpound.com

 

[rrlbees]

My god, you’re exhausting. May as well run it back with Red with this philosophy.

and what is exhausting? ive posted little on the subject other than to say hop isnt my #1 and i favor schertz.

 

[Dmcnabbrules]

I am fully behind Hodgson now. If he isn’t interested please lord let it be GMac and not Hop if we have to go the alumni route.

 

[rrlbees]

This a major stretch. We have the biggest on campus capacity and it’s averaging what - 50 pct or less? It reads of being complacent and just saying be glad we have a basketball program in a big conference and that’s enough.

I would tie attendance expectations directly with program performance personally.

it would be a stretch if the schools behind us were at 100% capacity, which they aren't. so its hard to say if they had bigger arenas they'd average more.

 

[sufan59]

Does Hodgson know how to navigate the complexities with the Dome being multi purpose with Football, Lacrosse, and Women's Basketball. Potentially having to wait till gameday to do walkthroughs. Hopkins does. This is another argument in the pro Hopkins camp. Doesn't the away team also deal with this when they come to play us?

 

[RF2044]

You can sell tickets with Hodgson me thinks. With Hopkins you aren’t. It’s just the extension of Boeheim with the D team.

I'll also add that the fanbase patience / goodwill are at an all-time low.

When Red got hired, even though it wasn't a national search, my read on the fanbase was that there was excitement and a willingness to see what Red can do, after a 2 year hiatus from qualifying for the NCAA.

We are now at a 5 year drought. No matter who's brought in, the tolerance for continued mediocrity will be a lot lower. We've already seen fan disengagement in terms of tickets, revenue, etc.

If Hop -- or Hodgson, or any other coach for that matter -- can't quickly show an improved product on the court, there won't be a multi-year grace period IMO with the fanbase this time around.

And if we again hire "in house" and there isn't immediate improvement, I think the backlash will be swifter / more decisive than with Red.

The University can't afford to screw this up.