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it wasnt a melo - gmac thing really. it was melo wanting his friend edelin to be more the pg. jb basically told him who the hell has been getting you the ball before edein could play. i'm sure there was much more jb said. but melo and gmac got along fine.
Good to know. I’ve always heard it presented as a Melo vs GMac thing.
 
Old white people making huge decisions with the only thing in mind is how much money they can collect, rather than doing what’s best. What a shocker!

If they hire Hop, I’m done with this program. Unserious.
 
Great, but I don't think Melo's money should allow him to make terrible decisions and hold the University hostage, like hiring a terrible coach with a track record of losing. That is reckless and dumb to be allowed.

If it is, take your ball and go home, and these are my options:

Melos 1 time 30 million + Terrible coach + Kiyan featured
or
Lally (insert number here lets guess 8 million) + Up and Coming coach with a nice track record with new ideas and no ties to anything

I am taking the second option 100 times out of 100 because it gives Syracuse the best chance long term.
You are entitled to your opinion. Others are entitled to theirs. Time will sort of tell. Although, we won't know for sure because one of them is not going to get the job and we won't know what they would have
done. Like with members of the opposite sex, the one that got away is always the catch.
 
I feel like once again I have to release this disclosure. I am not advocating for
Hopkins. Nor is anyone else that I see giving information. But there seems to
be anger at us. Like we are making a decision here. And while I was told I might
hear more later, nothing has been finally decided yet.

I dont think anyone is angry at you, or Bulldog04 it comes off as that because most of us are angry at the information you are sharing, not at you personally.
 
Well, it's not like BH isn't attempting the same thing. And all Hopkins is doing is making the case for why he is the best man for the job. This is what I bring to the table in other words. Just as we all do or have done on any job application.
So money but no track record of success? Good lord the powers that be are idiots.
 
Old white people making huge decisions with the only thing in mind is how much money they can collect, rather than doing what’s best. What a shocker!

If they hire Hop, I’m done with this program. Unserious.
If Hop gets the job and has this kind of money, he better have thick skin because everyone will expect a top ten team and rightfully so.
 
I can say this with certainty - Melo has a package of $30 million (and growing) lined up for Hop. This includes nba players, local guys and a few that have never donated to cuse ever before. The plan is to front load that money for the first 2 years to immediately become relevant. But that’s what the deal is for Hop from Melo.
Welp, there is the nail in the coffin. Get ready to have three straight bubble seasons. This year has proven that big NIL budgets do not equate to success.

Let's look at Kentucky. The roster costs 20 million, and what have they done? 18-10 barley getting through to the tournament. They have Mark Pope as a coach, who was solid at BYU in the Big 12. Now he has been fined for a hot mic controversy, and his team is floundering. They are at least a bubble team, which is more than we can say about SU, but do the 18-10 records and constant bubble teams remind people of a period for SU basketball not too long ago?

Another case study is a fan-favorite team in Georgetown. They started pushing money into the program and landing some very solid HS ballers and some talent from the portal. Where are they now? Losing record in the Big East with a coach who has had a record very similar to Autry.

Not to say that Hopkins would be a horrendous coach because that is a lie. However, it would continue to announce to fans and College basketball nation that Syracuse Basketball is okay with just squeaking into tournaments here and then becoming a perennial bubble team for good. Because that is how Hopkins fared at Washington with good support from UW.

This is not an attack on your insider knowledge, as it is respected. But just a way to visualize why the invalid fascination that boatload of NIL would save a program, because we have seen recently that it might not be that easy.
 
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Yeah if Melo is legit getting Syracuse Men's Basketball $30 million+, Syracuse should need to see proof they are willing to spend 20 million each year on the roster if they are making Mike Hopkins the head coach. Duke or Kentucky will step up their game because we will be in their spending range. Others will catch wind and try to inflate their position in the market. Top tier assistants, we need to be playing in MSG, very few cupcakes on the schedule. Damn, I guess seeing Syracuse lose to Hofstra and Boston College really lit a fire under Melo, like holy crap, I just hope he is putting his energy and efforts to the right guy because he certainly doesn't have the track record to get hired on his resume.
 
I feel like once again I have to release this disclosure. I am not advocating for
Hopkins. Nor is anyone else that I see giving information. But there seems to
be anger at us. Like we are making a decision here. And while I was told I might
hear more later, nothing has been finally decided yet.
Not anger. Frustration. We all appreciate your info, just hate that it seems to confirm our worst fears abouthow the program is being run (or misrun).
 
I agree with that, Especially since it appears that Melo is till out trying to get more money.
The big question is are there players going to be in the portal worthy of this kind of money? If they’re all like Freeman, good luck with that. I hope whoever the next coach is they have European contacts. Those kids come in ready to play.
 
It's easy to say that you want BH over Hop and his $30 million NIL. Coaching matters.

But would you still take BH over Hop if I guaranteed you that Syracuse had a top 10 roster next year (and the year after) provided by Melo's funding?
Coaching matters and Hodgson can fundraise enough to take a big chunk out of that. I have no faith Hopkins can coach and throwing NIL at rosters hasn't produced incredible results (just look at Kentucky).
 
With our luck only stiffs will be in the portal this year😆
I would hope they are working the back channels and actually sharing with the school what the roster would look like instead of just sitting and waiting for the portal to open with this kind of money.
 
The portal will be loaded like it has always been. The money growing exponentially will guarantee that trend continues until it is completely unsustainable for even the SEC or Big10, or we get a CBA.

If there are new big $$ players like SU making it clear they can pay you will have kids jumping in the portal to take advantage.
 
No amount of money makes Hopkins the right hire.

It would be very on brand for the administration to let Melo, who is not well versed in the current environment of the college coaching carousel, make this hire.

Unbelievable. Fantastic way to lose a big chunk of your fanbase.
 
As someone who thinks that the support of Melo (who is nearly universally beloved) is important to the relevancy of our program, this possible turn of events is difficult to process. If Hop is hired and he gets a contract that requires strong results, maybe it would be worth it with the type of money that is being discussed. But It is a HUGE gamble. If it didn't work, it would be embarrassing for all involved.
 
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