Coach Search Options after Autry

[qdawgg]

Do you all remember that Hopkins was on the Olympic staff in Rio and I think in London too. I remember seeing some video of him working with James HArden. He knows how to coach players and advance skills. If Melo is putting together a warchest with NBA money, it is probably coming from some guys who became better players with his coaching.

I am not saying he is head coach material..it is hard to look past his last few years in Washington. But if Hopkins was coaching this years team, Donnie would be better, Kiyan would be better, our point gaurd would have grown instead of regressing. If they brought the fire and determination that hopkins had as a player this years team would be tournament bound.

What skills of Hardens did he advance working with him at the Olympics? Just because he was chosen to be on the staff at the Olympics, which involves being around players, so he’s going to work with them. Doesn’t mean he’s good at it or advanced anyone’s skills. There’s more evidence showing he’s not good at this, especially as a HC then evidence showing he is good at it.

 

[qdawgg]

Interesting.

It can be done before the season ends.

Only at serious programs can it be done. We’re stalling in hopes all the good candidates are gone so when Hop is hired it’s like, he was the only one left.

 

[elimunelson]

Interesting.

It can be done before the season ends.

What!

What they are doing to red is ridiculous imo. If the assumption is we need to wait out the 2% chance he runs the table to the ncaa they are even more callous.

Time to make the call. We all know it anyway it’s a stupid parlour game at this point

 

[Fly Rodder]

Anyone who’s disliking Eric devendorf being on staff should be ashamed of themselves. Guy knows ball, flat out. He always says the right thing.

Why stop at Devo? Let's just have everyone who has ever played at SU compete at HORSE at the Lally Athletic Complex Carmelo K. Anthony Center or Jim Boeheim Court at the JMA Wireless Carrier Dome. Last one standing gets the HC job brought to you by Wegmans, Micron, Mellow Mushroom and Chik Filet.

 

[Briancuse]

Only at serious programs can it be done. We’re stalling in hopes all the good candidates are gone so when Hop is hired it’s like, he was the only one left.

He made an elite 8 as well which is unheard of at osu.

 

[Cuse_NYC]

WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS BOARD IF HOP BRINGS BACK JAMES ARTHUR ON THAT BENCH WITH HIM!

 

[qdawgg]

Anyone who’s disliking Eric devendorf being on staff should be ashamed of themselves. Guy knows ball, flat out. He always says the right thing.

He might make a great coach, who knows. There’s a hell of a lot more to being a great coach than knowing ball and saying the right things. Hop knows BB and says the right things.

 

[LpoolNative]

Why stop at Devo? Let's just have everyone who has ever played at SU compete at HORSE at the Lally Athletic Complex Carmelo K. Anthony Center or Jim Boeheim Court at the JMA Wireless Carrier Dome. Last one standing gets the HC job brought to you by Wegmans, Micron, Mellow Mushroom and Chik Filet.

Yeesh, I’ll catch you on a better day.

 

[Hopkins16]

I don't think you try to keep freeman, he is not the player that we thought he would be. I think they go after Kyle, kingz and Anthony, and white. hit the portal hard for everything else.

Isn’t Kyle currently a senior?

 

[sufan59]

Who would coach offense under Mike Hopkins? Can they poach Luke Murray or someone with a similar reputation for 2 million a year and give them the AHC title? If you want to be a sure elite program you can’t skimp out on coaching. Hopkins would need a proven offensive genius with him. Fran got Vince Kehres, Hopkins needs to get a guy like that for offense specifically and immediately. Like the system and culture matters so much in producing a consistently winning college basketball team and program.

 

[LpoolNative]

He might make a great coach, who knows. There’s a hell of a lot more to being a great coach than knowing ball and saying the right things. Hop knows BB and says the right things.

I just think the whole Hopkins coaching at Washington was weird. Is he my first second or third choice for HC? No.

But if he ends up coming here with a boat load of NIL behind him which Bulldog04 eluded to, then I think he deserves a second chance, as does everyone on planet earth.

Regardless of the outcome, my #1 is Schertz, Then Hodgson.

If it comes down to Hopkins. Is it the end of the world? No… absolutely not. Would it be a disappoint? Yes of course. Hop hasn’t proved he can be a head coach outside of one season.

But I will say. Hopkins is NOTTTT Red. Let’s make that one thing clear. You will absolutely see a better product of basketball. Especially with the boatload of nil being lined up for him.

It’s not the end of the world folks. Take a deep breath, play it by ear.

Breeding negativity into the world always results in a negative outcome in one way or another.

 

[sweetpea]

Hop had zero vision for offense when he was at Washington, and he also stubbornly stuck with mostly zone. I don’t know what to say here. He’s a dynamic and charismatic personality but he’s proven that he’s not an innovator or even towards the leading edge on modern college basketball systems. I get that he could have learned a thing or two in the NBA but I tend to think not. The game is different on that level b/c of the talent, and an old dog rarely learns new tricks. Hodge or Schertz would be perfect.

Agree 100%, Hop will continue to do what he is familiar with.

The only two alum who I think would make good staff members are Devendorf and Triche. Devo has the edge to his game and personality that the program is lacking.

Brandon seems to be building a really good second career training local players and improving their skills. He's another crafty guard and smart player who I think would be an asset to the program.

I've always liked both guys, but again, are there not other coaches or other staff members at other schools who would be perfect if we could identify them?

 

[PauliePeppas]

I’ll start by saying, I prefer Hodgson to all candidates. But, all of you thinking Red to Hop is a lateral move, I mean give me a damn break. If we beat Hofstra, BC, VT this yr, we are talking about the bubble. It’s not that hard to make the tourney anymore. Hop is much brighter than Red, and with a boat load more money, we can be pretty darn good. Hop will bring in the right assistants. He was trying to cater towards the Washington crowd with his assistants over there. Larry Brown was supposed to join his staff one year. Maybe he’ll come to cuse with him. We will all end up happy with Hop if he gets that kind of money.

 

[LpoolNative]

I’ll start by saying, I prefer Hodgson to all candidates. But, all of you thinking Red to Hop is a lateral move, I mean give me a damn break. If we beat Hofstra, BC, VT this yr, we are talking about the bubble. It’s not that hard to make the tourney anymore. Hop is much brighter than Red, and with a boat load more money, we can be pretty darn good. Hop will bring in the right assistants. He was trying to cater towards the Washington crowd with his assistants over there. Larry Brown was supposed to join his staff one year. Maybe he’ll come to cuse with him. We will all end up happy with Hop if he gets that kind of money.

Can’t believe your getting dislikes for a rational and good take!

Usually we just dislike your posts the other 95 percent of the time…

 

[Irishsecra1]

He might make a great coach, who knows. There’s a hell of a lot more to being a great coach than knowing ball and saying the right things. Hop knows BB and says the right things.

I will say one thing for Devo. No one who plays for him is going to be a cream puff - he will expect those guys to work hard and have a never surrender attitude.

 

[elimunelson]

Who would coach offense under Mike Hopkins? Can they poach Luke Murray or someone with a similar reputation for 2 million a year and give them the AHC title? If you want to be a sure elite program you can’t skimp out on coaching. Hopkins would need a proven offensive genius with him. Fran got Vince Kehres, Hopkins needs to get a guy like that for offense specifically and immediately. Like the system and culture matters so much in producing a consistently winning college basketball team and program.

W 30mm NIL why not

 

[elimunelson]

Live look tonite at the Boeheim residence

 

[sufan59]

W 30mm NIL why not

Yeah like I would get a little more behind the idea if we are getting a LEGIT assistant for offense and even defense for that matter for man to man.

 

[themole]

It’s not even necessarily those 2…nor just Lyke/NC. One of the most important pieces of the decision making process has been in Milan. Everyone watches too much Game of Thrones. This isn’t Winterfell and the Red Keep

What? We're going to Keep Red?!

Oh sorry never mind I misread that

 

[sufan59]

Live look tonite at the Boeheim residence

 

[kcsu]

I’ll start by saying, I prefer Hodgson to all candidates. But, all of you thinking Red to Hop is a lateral move, I mean give me a damn break. If we beat Hofstra, BC, VT this yr, we are talking about the bubble. It’s not that hard to make the tourney anymore. Hop is much brighter than Red, and with a boat load more money, we can be pretty darn good. Hop will bring in the right assistants. He was trying to cater towards the Washington crowd with his assistants over there. Larry Brown was supposed to join his staff one year. Maybe he’ll come to cuse with him. We will all end up happy with Hop if he gets that kind of money.

Bright, charismatic, motivator, CEO type of program leader who will attract donors and Athletes.
I agree he will need help on the X&O side but I'm also sure that his assistant coaches will be an upgrade over our current staff.
NIL is king in today's landscape.
Personally between the candidates listed so far the one that brings the most funds is not a bad bet.
I'm sure that Hop has learned a ton over the years. He was also Pac coach of the year twice.
His overall record at Washington was a winning record and Washington hasn't exactly been tearing it up regardless of who has been coaching them.
I do like the guy from Florida and his style of play. Bottom line
Jimmy and Joe's matter. JB was never considered a good X and O guy early on but he sure as heck had the talent and that carried him.
I get the concern over Hop but if his war chest is significantly bigger than anyone else he would be my choice. Talent wins games.

 

[Bulldog04]

The Lallys said that $30M+ report was false, no? Not to discredit any of our insiders here, just thought I’d point that out

They don’t know everything. People (not you) are acting like they are running the university

 

[FrancoPizza]

Live look tonite at the Boeheim residence

Except jimmy never wanted out.

 

[Orangezoo]

He said nothing mentioned to BOT or the athletics committee and that nobody from athletics is currently aware of this

Going too far to say this looks like a heavy dose of damage control ? It never hurts to put some smoke out there to help the overall cause. It’s interesting they responded to this as they did. If there was a good deal of truth and it forced a moment of reflection and clarity then so be it.

Making sure it’s well known that many are paying close attention to all this is a good thing.

 

[Sherman20]

He made an elite 8 as well which is unheard of at osu.

Tinkle is a good coach. Dumb to fire him. Oregon State is a hard place to win at. Now Stevie Thompson is out of a job!