Coach Search Options after Autry

[RF2044]

The better coach but only if the NIL is close. If not, superior talent almost always wins. Just ask JB

Just ask Kentucky this year.

It's backwards thinking, IMO. Wishful thinking, actually.

 

[phil77]

Been in meetings all day any new info or same ole same ole ?

 

[qdawgg]

Maybe he didn’t want to be, I don’t know the reason. I don’t know if anyone does. He’s doing a great job as a color commentator as of now.

I'm guessing it's a much higher paying gig too. Only so many people have the means to work as an assistant making almost no $ and hoping to move up the ladder.

 

[kcsu]

If Syracuse is spending more than 15 million on its roster or for that matter are spending top 10 nationally on its roster, it would be a disappointment to not be ranked throughout the year and make the Elite 8. This is a splash investment. There is no building up to big time. If Syracuse went with an outsider that started with top 40 resources, I would be good with a methodical build up.

Unfortunately NIL doesn't allow for a methodical build up. It's a year to year situation which makes it even more important to have talent and the money to retain and re load. Most of these kids will stay if the money is close. If not they're gone. .methodical isn't happening in today's NIL world.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

Been in meetings all day any new info or same ole same ole ?

All along, along, there were incidents and accidents
There were hints and allegations

 

[hoopsupstate]

i love devo as much as the next person. but people ask why hasn't hop gotten other job offers (fair question). why hasn't devo? the year he was here his title was training or something. he was at detroit mercy for a year and he was some special asst to the hc. all this time, why isn't he an asst coach someplace?

Correct. Devo never even attempted to guard anyone when he played. He was undisciplined on and off the court, but he was competitive as heck. If he could bring that to this program it would be a plus. He would have to work with the guards. We need some new blood and new ideas at SU. Definitely bring in someone with experience working with bigs and front court players.

 

[721Comstock]

The better coach but only if the NIL is close. If not, superior talent almost always wins. Just ask JB

Uh, Kentucky hoops would like a word with you.

And Rutgers from last year.
TWO top-5 draft picks got them a losing record.

It’s almost as if you need coaching to maximize talent or something?

Meanwhile - there are stories of coaches out-coaching their talent to overachieve.

Like Hodgson. And Schertz.

Meanwhile - Hop hasn’t been able to coach his way out of a wet paper bag.

 

[phil77]

All along, along, there were incidents and accidents
There were hints and allegations

I knew you were Paul Simon

 

[grepal]

Ahh yes Mike Hopkins and Dan Hurley. Very similar people.

Point is not that they are alike, point is most great college coaches are at least in part, tremendous jerks. Coach K, Hurley, Knight, Wade, Self, Calhoun, Thompson, even our own JAB. Don't get me wrong, all could be funny and charming, well maybe not Thompson, he was just an A Hole. But during games these guys were practically demonic.

 

[rrlbees]

Devo left UDM because he wanted to move back to Syracuse to be close to his daughter.

yes but the statement was he was a special aast to the hc, not an asst there or anywhere.

 

[Bulldog04]

Made the big time

Let me know when you guys want an autograph lol jk jk jk

 

[hoopsupstate]

No matter who the coach is next year, selecting the right kind of “winning” players from the portal is important. You have to get talented players, but also need guys who will go through a wall to win. Kentucky went out and payed big bucks for players, but they didn’t assemble a winning roster. Getting the right players is essential. Bottom line is if you can’t shoot, don’t bring them in unless they have a unique skill area that they excel in. If a guy can’t make a free throw, you put your team at a disadvantage. We saw what that does to a team this year. Someone needs to be able to judge talent. Hop always stressed defense over shooters, that’s why he had horrible offensive teams. Roster construction might be more important than who’s standing in front of the bench.

 

[Cappy3]

The better coach but only if the NIL is close. If not, superior talent almost always wins. Just ask JB

You mean like when Hop went 15-17with two first round picks?

 

[sufan59]

Off topic, but Donna Ditota twitter right now is crazy. I don’t think they fixed the hacking issue.

 

[cusefan88]

I brought up Devo a few pages back and should clarify. I think the HC and assistants should be completely new and non-alumni.

I do think there's space in support staff/player development to utilize former players and keep that aspect connected. Devo and Triche were two guys I thought valuable in that type of role.

 

[phil77]

So quick summary we are still at

Door 1 - Hopkins with some kind of backing that is 30+ million but Lally said he hasn't heard about it (posted in some strange PDF twitter thing) and we are going to hire top-line assistants like Devo to be on the bench to cover up for the fact the Head Coach Hopkins isn't good and has no modern offensive or defensive systems

Door 2 - Hodgson who knows what kind of support he has but checks all the actual coaching boxes outside of P4 experience

Door 3 - Who knows someone else but no other names

Door 4 - Mike Tirico is on vacation in Milan

Caught up

 

[hoopsupstate]

You mean like when Hop went 15-17with two first round picks?

Two great front court players, but you still need guards.

 

[LAorange44]

hello,

does anybody know if Hop went 15-17 as head coach at Washington. I can’t recall.
thank you.

 

[phil77]

hello,

does anybody know if Hop went 15-17 as head coach at Washington. I can’t recall.
thank you.

He coached more than 32 games.
you are welcome

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

hello,

does anybody know if Hop went 15-17 as head coach at Washington. I can’t recall.
thank you.

Remember, there's always a bigger fish.

 

[Starman]

All along, along, there were incidents and accidents
There were hints and allegations

Better go read the last 20 pages to be sure

 

[dasher]

Who would coach offense under Mike Hopkins? Can they poach Luke Murray or someone with a similar reputation for 2 million a year and give them the AHC title? If you want to be a sure elite program you can’t skimp out on coaching. Hopkins would need a proven offensive genius with him. Fran got Vince Kehres, Hopkins needs to get a guy like that for offense specifically and immediately. Like the system and culture matters so much in producing a consistently winning college basketball team and program.

We can't pay a ass't coach 2 million a year. That is fantasy land.

 

[sufan59]

We can't pay a ass't coach 2 million a year. That is fantasy land.

I know it’s why this idea is a horrible idea if Hopkins doesn’t have connections to a proven offensive and defensive guru to pay them a reasonable amount. Because you are going to have to pay up to poach.

 

[phil77]

I know a way we can build a winner with Mike Hopkins as a head coach. Here it is:

HC - Mike Hopkins
Assistant 1 - Nate Oats (in charge of offense)
Assistant 2 - Kelvin Sampson (in charge of defense)

 

[kcsu]

Just ask Kentucky this year.

It's backwards thinking, IMO. Wishful thinking, actually.

Agreed if the NIL is close. Your wrong if you think any coach can win without solid backing.