Coach Search Options after Autry

[kcsu]

Dont worry Melo going to give him one time lump sum of 30 mil for NIL and that will make him a good coach. What happens if he spends it all year 1?

We win

 

[phsyra]

The last 40 years? We were pretty damn successful for 40 years.

keep running that offense and see what happens

 

[phil77]

We win

Win what? The bubble? Because we aren't winning the title or anything and we aren't winning the ACC or ACCT. So what exactly do you expect to win?

 

[RedtheGOB]

This roster was strong on paper. Unfortunately not strong on the white board where the “plays” were drawn up

I think Melo, really most of us watched us compete in November. The warning signs were there though.

 

[Scooch]

“Seems to me there is more going on here than Hop suddenly forgot how to coach.”

Forgot? He’s had one HC gig and went 118-106. Maybe he’s just not good as a HC?

 

[Newhouser]

So we think Melo is going to pay guys who are better than Kiyan, and they are going to let Kiyan be the alpha?

 

[SaveSUHoops]

I'd rather have Pikiell than Hop and it's not even close.

I know the pandemonium in this thread is causing people to lose their minds, but this might be over the top insanity... Forget about his mismanagement of a roster with Ace Bailey and Dylan Harper last season, this year Pikiell's squad has followed it up with some eye-sore inducing metrics, including the 5th worst average distance on 2-point shots. That style of offense belongs in the basketball wasteland that is Piscataway, not in Syracuse.

 

[kcsu]

Win what? The bubble? Because we aren't winning the title or anything and we aren't winning the ACC or ACCT. So what exactly do you expect to win?

30 million. I'm thinking we beat Gate, hold serve on Cornell, squeeze one out against BC , and possibly make a play in game.
Now make it 40m and ill feel better.

 

[McCuse]

Put that in a high yield savings account any by year 3 we’ll finally be able to afford Dakota Laffew.

Dakota Laffew and Mullen!

 

[littlereg]

Jai Lucas has done pretty well resurrecting Miami.

Completely missed his point. And he wasn’t even close to “some assistant laying around” he was the associate head coach under scheyer at duke.

 

[kcsu]

Dakota Ladder and Mullen!

Any chance Gmac is the compromise choice that brings both NIL Titans together

 

[qdawgg]

You can’t blame his 2020 season on Covid. Covid didn’t affect anything until the conference tournaments. His season was already done at that point.

Oh yes we can. Covid only impacted Hop and Dino Babers.

 

[phil77]

So we think Melo is going to pay guys who are better than Kiyan, and they are going to let Kiyan be the alpha?

No strings attached "play the best players" Melo is giving 30+ million to have his son ride the bench again. I believe that lol

 

[qdawgg]

Covid was two years? Hell let’s just make it 5 and we can loop Reds tenure in there, use the covid excuse and give him another year.

Hey, delete this. Someone from SU will read it and realize it’s a good way to save even more $ this year.

 

[littlereg]

That post makes no sense.

As others have noted, COVID didn't impact the 2020 regular season at all. "Back 9" Boeheim made the S16 in 2021, but we're supposed to give Hop a pass that season?

Meanwhile 2022, 2023 and 2024 were lousy. 3 year COVID hangover?

Hop's a nice guy and his tenure at UW was a big flop. There's no rationalizations for that.

If you want to hire him anyway, that's a choice. But he stunk in UW for 5 years.

Stop making sense

 

[Dmcnabbrules]

This thread is like a Phish song, it’s all over the place, half the time I don’t know what the hell is going on, but I am still having a good time.

 

[qdawgg]

Life is all about luck, timing, and being the right guy, in the right place, at the right time.

ALL ABOARD THE HOP EXPRESS!!!!!

Dude hasn’t had a CBB HC job in how long? Nobody has even pretended to want him.

He’s lucky right now. Not the fans though.

 

[dasher]

No strings attached "play the best players" Melo is giving 30+ million to have his son ride the bench again. I believe that lol

Melo isn't giving 30 million. He is raising 30 million. Monumental difference.

 

[phil77]

Melo isn't giving 30 million. He is raising 30 million. Monumental difference.

Same thing, he isn't doing all this for his son to not play. I know what everyone will say but I know what reality will be because the only reason Hopkins will even have a chance at the job is because of Melo. So I doubt we are going to see a benching like this year and I imagine we will see an increased role despite what is said publicly.

 

[dasher]

Same thing, he isn't doing all this for his son to not play. I know what everyone will say but I know what reality will be because the only reason Hopkins will even have a chance at the job is because of Melo. So I doubt we are going to see a benching like this year and I imagine we will see an increased role despite what is said publicly.

I think he thinks his son is better than he has showed.

 

[Cusefan69]

My expectations for BH year 1 would be different because he wouldn't have 30 million dollars backing him. In YR 1 I would want to see BH make the team compete on both ends of the floor, successfully changing the culture in the program. I want to see the actual defensive and offensive systems installed. And I would expect us not to have a losing season doing this.

YR 2 and going forward I would expect the tournament again, no exceptions every year. Any year after YR 1 that isn't a tournament team would be a failure.

That would be my expectations for anyone who isn't a continuity hire with 30 million dollars backing them

I see what you are saying.
To me expectations should be the same no matter what. As an AD wins and NCAA tourney matters at this point. Syracuse has already been set back 10 years. This is pro ball now and by 2028 leagues will start shifting again. The message to any coach coming in should be the same. You have 2 years to get Syracuse to NCAA and win opening round at a minimum and by year 3 no less than sweet 16. (Or something to that effect. Perhaps year 1 NCAA and year 2 sweet 16. Coach either gets Syracuse there in 3 or we find another. With there likely to be SEC and Big expansion happening again by ~2028/29, there is no time for lack of progress and getting Syracuse hoops visible again. (Football runs the show and Fran has the same pressure, gotta get results.).

 

[Blanko97]

Absent knowledge, it's natural for people to extrapolate from what they do know. Which is most of this thread. But these are really important hires for a small private school in upstate NY with a once very successful sports program combined with an NCAA ecosystem with seismic changes occurring. We all want SU to be the best that it can be.

There are folks whose info I trust and some I take with a grain of salt. I am 100% certain there are those who get things only from people with limited involvement and highly colored by their own personal opinions.

Syracuse isn’t a small school…

 

[Otto21]

No idea what the right moves are in any of this, but just wanted to drop a note to say thank you to those in the know for all the information. Stressful but this is what makes this board so awesome, having the opportunity to learn what’s going on behind the scenes during things like this. So grateful for this- bulldog, Jake, dasher, Richmond, Jeremy. Sorry if I missed anyone. It’s so cool, even if scary, to have access to this sort of stuff and it’s all bc of you.

 

[phil77]

So grateful for this- bulldog, Jake, dasher, Richmond, Jeremy.

Who are those guys?

 

[llandz]

I think he thinks his son is better than he has showed.

And he might be. I see flashes of a better player. I want to see him with another coached team.