Coach Search Options after Autry

[elimunelson]

Bring Pitino home. A guy who can mantain relevancy, can flat out coach still and will take the job for the right amt of cash.

 

[Cuse1055]

Bring Pitino home. A guy who can mantain relevancy, can flat out coach still and will take the job for the right amt of cash.

How many more years does he coach though? At this point, get someone who is younger and ready like Langel or Hodgson IMO.

 

[RedtheGOB]

Let’s be real, if Red can’t coach up Freeman and Moore why would we think White and Kayan would make any difference?

They’re good prospects but shouldn’t be the reason for Red to get another year. Time to cut the cord and find a new coach. We’re prolonging the inevitable if they allow Red to stay for another year.

Going to keep saying it over and over. The Anthony family needs to pump the NIL machine for the next 25 years and put their name on some more buildings. Melo has hundreds of millions and LaLa is hanging out with the Kardashians.

If Kiyan goes to USC we are screwed and he was close to just starting fresh on the West coast. NOT because we need his play on the court, but because we need his parents money for the foreseeable future.

 

[HyattsCuse]

I’m all on board for Bryan Hodgson. The guy is a top recruiter AND can coach! He’s young (only 37) and already has a ton of connections. For everyone who wanted Nate Oates, Hodgson is perfect since our chances of luring Oates are in the rearview. Hodgson is from Olean and went to Fredonia, so he knows the Northeast very well and recruited a ton of talent to Bama. He would lock up the Northeast (like Fran has done in football) and would also bring in Canadian talent. I’m 100% in on Hodgson!

Reading about this guy now from his upbringing to his success so far plus all the background you gave.

I seriously hope he’s on JW’s radar.

 

[PhatOrange]

Shaka and Sean are not in play. Reds our coach next year. It is what it is until Melo changes his mind.

Great so now the program is going to be held hostage by Melo ?

 

[STEVEHOLT]

Bring Pitino home. A guy who can mantain relevancy, can flat out coach still and will take the job for the right amt of cash.

We couldn’t even get the pool table to be our coach let alone Ricky himself .

 

[STEVEHOLT]

For those of you claiming people wanted Red to fail, I’ll counter that by saying that the Boeheim Truthers would rather SU lose with his successors than win with someone from the outside. PTIYPASI

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

It’s a fair question but he was linked to the ND job when that opened up. Maybe he is happy in central NY? There’s sometimes more that goes into this stuff. All I am saying is that it’s difficult to win at Colgate, even compared to other mid majors. His track record of patriot league championships is impressive

I agree that winning at Colgate in the PL is a totally different animal, even from other mid-major conferences. Different... not necessarily meaning more impressive though. I think he'd be good as an assistant, but not HC, which would probably be necessary for him to keep moving up the ladder to anything but a dumpster fire situation. That's probably why he hasn't left Colgate; he probably is comfortable in that situation and doesn't want to be a journeyman for a few more years unless its the right situation.

I would be very concerned about Langel's ability to recruit and constitute an effective staff at SU. Hodgson at Arkansas State is the model for a candidate that I think would be most effective without paying someone like a Sean Miller obscene amounts of cash to be pried away from another power conference program.

 

[RedtheGOB]

Great so now the program is going to be held hostage by Melo ?

For another year yea. Play the long game dude.

Melo is worth 170 Mil and LaLa 30 Mil. Maybe you didn't get the message that we need the money.

I'm actually more excited to see some of that LaLa money. This is her baby boy going off to college and he wants to bring Syracuse back. She has all these new business ventures going with Kim Kardashian. They need to make it rain in CNY this portal offseason.

 

[Trueblue25]

Bottom Line Red is bad. We hired the wrong assistant. And for all you Boeheim haters, you are getting what you wished for.

Boeheim left the program in ruins.

 

[PhatOrange]

For another year yea. Play the long game dude.

Melo is worth 170 Mil and LaLa 30 Mil. Maybe you didn't get the message that we need the money.

I'm actually more excited to see some of that LaLa money. This is her baby boy going off to college and he wants to bring Syracuse back. She has all these new business ventures going with Kim Kardashian. They need to make it rain in CNY this portal offseason.

I don’t buy it that the school collects welfare checks… been hearing that song and dance forever even though the basketball program is one of the highest revenue generating teams in the country.

 

[benjams77]

Good gawd no. Sorry he is not the answer At All. Hard stop.

I really look at coaching sometimes thru the intangibles and mental aspects… I know Gmac is young and probably not completely ready but from the little I’ve seen at Siena he has “it” in coaching that I don’t think Red has … Id hate to miss that boat on Gmac … What I mean is Gmac as we know is an ultra competitive person and from watching his games at Siena I see that in his coaching .. He gets fiery and isn’t going to lose .. He will exhaust all avenues to try to win even when his team is less talented .. They play hard and Gerry looks locked in in bench .. Red when they show him on camera looks overwhelmed and lost with answers .. That body language matters .. if I see it the players surely do ..JB was extremely competitive and that’s how he made Cuse a consistent power until he lost a step of that .. Gmac has that fire and watching games so far seems to handle the in game coaching … Early feel right now tells me he’s is gonna be a star as a coach .. In comparison to Melo and Kyian .. is Kyian a program changer with talent ,, prob not but he is Melos son and has a relationship to winning a championship for us .. We couldn’t lose that … Gmac has the same for the history of Syracuse .. He as a freshmen when he could have been too green, helped carry us to a National title in 2003 then held the team Together when Melo left .. he wouldn’t lose

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

For another year yea. Play the long game dude.

Melo is worth 170 Mil and LaLa 30 Mil. Maybe you didn't get the message that we need the money.

I'm actually more excited to see some of that LaLa money. This is her baby boy going off to college and he wants to bring Syracuse back. She has all these new business ventures going with Kim Kardashian. They need to make it rain in CNY this portal offseason.

The long game says to cut Red loose ASAP so that we don't lose more money over the long run. Red clearly can't manage the talent he has; even if, and that's a BIG IF, those recruits actually step foot on campus after what happens this season, they aren't going to stick around to keep losing when they can have their pick of winning destinations and basically name their price.

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

Love Red. This year is inexcusable. Cut the cord and reset.

Yep. Say it loud and proud, and ignore it if anyone tells you that you're talking out of both sides of your mouth. Both of these things can be true.

 

[Jack_Ball]

For another year yea. Play the long game dude.

Melo is worth 170 Mil and LaLa 30 Mil. Maybe you didn't get the message that we need the money.

I'm actually more excited to see some of that LaLa money. This is her baby boy going off to college and he wants to bring Syracuse back. She has all these new business ventures going with Kim Kardashian. They need to make it rain in CNY this portal offseason.

Why would Melo & Lala want their baby boy playing in front of empty dome with a team hoping to be 500? Wouldnt he want Cuse winning and on national TV with proven coach? Thats what I would want for my son - it wouldnt be playing for losing team on ACCNX

 

[RedtheGOB]

I don’t buy it that the school collects welfare checks… been hearing that song and dance forever even though the basketball program is one of the highest revenue generating teams in the country.

Just saying you want Blue Blood or Top 25 results on middle of the pack NIL funding. Are you noticing some sort of dramatic influx in NIL that we're all not aware of?

 

[dan7800]

The long game says to cut Red loose ASAP so that we don't lose more money over the long run. Red clearly can't manage the talent he has; even if, and that's a BIG IF, those recruits actually step foot on campus after what happens this season, they aren't going to stick around to keep losing when they can have their pick of winning destinations and basically name their price.

Who would coach? Time to move on from red but not mid season

 

[dan7800]

Why would Melo & Lala want their baby boy playing in front of empty dome with a team hoping to be 500? Wouldnt he want Cuse winning and on national TV with proven coach? Thats what I would want for my son - it wouldnt be playing for losing team on ACCNX

The way this team is moving I don’t think they could get into a Pluto TV rerun in a few years

 

[RedtheGOB]

Why would Melo & Lala want their baby boy playing in front of empty dome with a team hoping to be 500? Wouldnt he want Cuse winning and on national TV with proven coach? Thats what I would want for my son - it wouldnt be playing for losing team on ACCNX

Well dude he's already committed. That's why we need to keep the Anthony's close to home and not be shipping their NIL $'s to USC. I don't get what you're trying to say. I'm saying it's LaLa' baby boy she is going to open the checkbook.

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

Who would coach? Time to move on from red but not mid season

End of the current season, not midseason. There is enough talent on the roster for this squad to go on a run, although I think the chances of that are close to zero given how it is managed.

 

[IthacaMatt]

If the years aren't guaranteed, it's not a contract. It's make believe.

Contracts have options and performance clauses.

 

[RedtheGOB]

The long game says to cut Red loose ASAP so that we don't lose more money over the long run. Red clearly can't manage the talent he has; even if, and that's a BIG IF, those recruits actually step foot on campus after what happens this season, they aren't going to stick around to keep losing when they can have their pick of winning destinations and basically name their price.

Who are you installing tomorrow Mr ASAP? You got the buyout money ready plus the money needed for a legit contender coach?

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

Well dude he's already committed. That's why we need to keep the Anthony's close to home and not be shipping their NIL $'s to USC. I don't get what you're trying to say. I'm saying it's LaLa' baby boy she is going to open the checkbook.

I admire the optimism, but unless things improve significantly by the end of the season, I don't see him anywhere but USC next fall.

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

Who are you installing tomorrow Mr ASAP? You got the buyout money ready plus the money needed for a legit contender coach?

ASAP= end of the current season.

The poverty stuff is nonsense. (I totally believe people are telling dasher that though; everyone says it, just look at UNC and Bellichick)

If SU looks at the long-term costs of the program cratering beyond this season, the money will magically appear.

Bryan Hodgson is the model candidate for me.

 

[tipphill]

Who should JW realistically look at?

Probably looking hard at mid major HCs is my guess. Too risky to take an assistant and too cheap to lure away a big name coach.

No former players.