Coach Search Options after Autry

[sufan59]

Disagree. Women’s hoops is going big time around the country. Seventy percent of the country doesn’t even know what lacrosse is. You don’t see lacrosse televised. CNY is a hotbed for lacrosse, but not everywhere else. Schools are financing women’s basketball and ratings are surpassing men’s basketball in some areas. You can’t compare women’s basketball ratings to lacrosse. Just look at the difference is the physicality of women’s basketball and women’s lacrosse. It’s a joke in women’s lacrosse. You touch someone and you get a free shot. It’s boring and I enjoy lacrosse. I’m sure you’re referring to men’s lacrosse and probably not women’s, but women’s basketball surpasses both men and women’s lacrosse on a national basis. In the south and on west coast money is being pumped into baseball and softball. It’s a good debate. I wish we could support all of them.

Women’s College Basketball essentially runs Thursday and Sunday ratings outside the NFL. The product is getting better every year.

 

[FrancoPizza]

Disagree. Women’s hoops is going big time around the country. Seventy percent of the country doesn’t even know what lacrosse is. You don’t see lacrosse televised. CNY is a hotbed for lacrosse, but not everywhere else. Schools are financing women’s basketball and ratings are surpassing men’s basketball in some areas. You can’t compare women’s basketball ratings to lacrosse. Just look at the difference is the physicality of women’s basketball and women’s lacrosse. It’s a joke in women’s lacrosse. You touch someone and you get a free shot. It’s boring and I enjoy lacrosse. I’m sure you’re referring to men’s lacrosse and probably not women’s, but women’s basketball surpasses both men and women’s lacrosse on a national basis. In the south and on west coast money is being pumped into baseball and softball. It’s a good debate. I wish we could support all of them.

Heck the SU women might start outdrawing the men. They had 10,000 at their game on Friday. ;-)

 

[CuseFaninVT]

Honestly, quit that narrative. It is just nonsense. Depending on what you value, central NY is great.

I have traveled all over the world and lived overseas for the past 17 years. And I love coming back to CNY. Finger lakes, natural beauty, vineyards. It is great. I bring people to Green Lakes and they are blown away. Cazenovia, Skaneateles. All on your doorstep.

If you live overseas you aren’t coming back to CNY for the vineyards. Pretty and all that, but the wine isn’t up to the same standard.

 

[nyucuse]

If you live overseas you aren’t coming back to CNY for the vineyards. Pretty and all that, but the wine isn’t up to the same standard.

I come to see family. We go to Italy pretty often. CNY wine quality is not of the same standard of course, but the landscapes are great. Point being, the CNY experience is far better than many, many places in the US (and most certainly Iowa). I spend two weeks + every year and never feel a hurry to leave. I can't say that for too many places.

 

[CuseFaninVT]

I come to see family. We go to Italy pretty often. CNY wine quality is not of the same standard of course, but the landscapes are great. Point being, the CNY experience is far better than many, many places in the US (and most certainly Iowa). I spend two weeks + every year and never feel a hurry to leave. I can't say that for too many places.

I live in Vermont. I was glad to be back on my way home after spending the weekend in Canandaigua this past Labor Day.

 

[5OutFred]

Anyways, back to coaching search options...

If we can't pull in a Schertz, Skinn, Hodgson, I wouldn't mind going the Luke Murray route, as others have mentioned.

Arizona did the same hiring Tommy Llyold away from Gonzaga after a decade-plus there. I'd still prefer a sitting HC with success, but hiring a renowned, multi-time champ architect assistant is not the same as promoting Red. Just to be clear.

 

[Sbucketball]

He cares about athletics 100x more than Kent. Everyone raves about the guy and he will be far more innovative in his decisions that will help the university and athletic department as a whole.

Glad to hear that. Thanks for posting. I'm thrilled Kent is retiring. Seems like he didn't really do any favors for the basketball program. I want to be elite so badly and this will help and it's great timing.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

Be better than that. He isn't an imbecile. No need to call a fellow Orangeman names. No problem with wanting him gone but JFC, start with that kind of talk?

It’s amazing the pleasure some SU fans take in lambasting one of our own. I think many of those same folks would root to bring in Hopkins, who has alread proven not to be a winning HC

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

Commitment to women’s hoops is nice but we need to make men’s lax more important. Women’s hoops has never been a thing here. Lax is the clear #3

But, on a national level, WBB far outpaces lacrosse. Thats important for student recruitment. Hopefully it’s not a one or the other choice.

 

[cusefan88]

It’s amazing the pleasure some SU fans take in lambasting one of our own. I think many of those same folks would root to bring in Hopkins, who has alread proven not to be a winning HC

I actually think whoever the next HC is should call him to see if he would be assistant or Associate HC etc. Exactly the kind of person who could help bridge the gap. He clearly was at the height of his powers as an elite assistant coach at Cuse.

 

[FrancoPizza]

Like i said, have you been to Ames?

Brings me back to the 80s…

 

[CuseBlood44]

Disagree. Women’s hoops is going big time around the country. Seventy percent of the country doesn’t even know what lacrosse is. You don’t see lacrosse televised. CNY is a hotbed for lacrosse, but not everywhere else. Schools are financing women’s basketball and ratings are surpassing men’s basketball in some areas. You can’t compare women’s basketball ratings to lacrosse. Just look at the difference is the physicality of women’s basketball and women’s lacrosse. It’s a joke in women’s lacrosse. You touch someone and you get a free shot. It’s boring and I enjoy lacrosse. I’m sure you’re referring to men’s lacrosse and probably not women’s, but women’s basketball surpasses both men and women’s lacrosse on a national basis. In the south and on west coast money is being pumped into baseball and softball. It’s a good debate. I wish we could support all of them.

The women’s basketball bubble is mostly artificial hype and some cat fights between angel and Clark. Not buying it

 

[grepal]

The way his team is playing, the price is going to continue to get higher.

Yeah, not even sure he would leave without an improved NIL situation. UCONN has some of the best in the country. You never know.

 

[Sherman20]

Further evidence that Josh Schertz should be at the top of the list to become Syracuse's new coach if Red gets fired. In the Athletic's "Non-Conference Superlatives" column on Best, Most Surprising and Most Disappointing superlatives, they name his Saint Louis team as the Best Mid-Major so far this season. The guy is the real deal and is now proving his head coaching chops at his third school.

Men’s college basketball nonconference superlatives: Best, surprising and most disappointing

Let’s dish out some nonconference superlatives, to give proper credit (and criticism) where it's due.

www.nytimes.com

"If not for [a wild last second shot], Josh Schertz’s team would be undefeated entering Atlantic 10 play. As it is, Saint Louis (11-1) — which already owns top-100 wins over Santa Clara, Grand Canyon and San Francisco — has been the most dangerous two-way mid-major. The Billikens are top-11 nationally in effective field-goal percentage on offense and defense, per KenPom, and are an aesthetic treat as one of the country’s fastest teams. Robbie Avila, who earned national recognition with Schertz two seasons ago at Indiana State, is still doing his thing as a college Nikola Jokic, but he has plenty of help, as six different players average at least 9 points. At this rate, Saint Louis will have a convincing at-large NCAA Tournament case even if it doesn’t win the A-10 tournament."

 

[007]

Further evidence that Josh Schertz should be at the top of the list to become Syracuse's new coach if Red gets fired. In the Athletic's "Non-Conference Superlatives" column on Best, Most Surprising and Most Disappointing superlatives, they name his Saint Louis team as the Best Mid-Major so far this season. The guy is the real deal and is now proving his head coaching chops at his third school.

Men’s college basketball nonconference superlatives: Best, surprising and most disappointing

Let’s dish out some nonconference superlatives, to give proper credit (and criticism) where it's due.

www.nytimes.com

"If not for [a wild last second shot], Josh Schertz’s team would be undefeated entering Atlantic 10 play. As it is, Saint Louis (11-1) — which already owns top-100 wins over Santa Clara, Grand Canyon and San Francisco — has been the most dangerous two-way mid-major. The Billikens are top-11 nationally in effective field-goal percentage on offense and defense, per KenPom, and are an aesthetic treat as one of the country’s fastest teams. Robbie Avila, who earned national recognition with Schertz two seasons ago at Indiana State, is still doing his thing as a college Nikola Jokic, but he has plenty of help, as six different players average at least 9 points. At this rate, Saint Louis will have a convincing at-large NCAA Tournament case even if it doesn’t win the A-10 tournament."

I don't know about top of the list or specific names, but this is the type of proven resume, results, and high regard we hopefully are looking for IF/when we move on from Red.

 

[DocAlKy]

Throw 6-8 million at Tony Bennett (#2) or Jay Wright (#1). With GMs in program, They are now more removed from NIL and have had more time to digest the process. We can’t afford another experiment . Beard is another option as maybe he can be lured from a football school

 

[DocAlKy]

I don't know about top of the list or specific names, but this is the type of proven resume, results, and high regard we hopefully are looking for IF/when we move on from Red.

Wright/Bennett/Beard. Pay up for a winner

 

[Hawknate144]

Throw 6-8 million at Tony Bennett (#2) or Jay Wright (#1). With GMs in program, They are now more removed from NIL and have had more time to digest the process. We can’t afford another experiment . Beard is another option as maybe he can be lured from a football school

so 2 guys who retired because they didn't like what college sports had become, especially Bennett and a women beater, no thanks.

 

[Sbucketball]

Copying my post from somewhere else about Josh Schertz from St Louis since there’s interest on the board:

he's in his 5th year as HC in D1:

21-22 Indiana State: 11-20
22-23 Indiana State: 23-13
23-24 Indiana State: 32-7
24-25 Saint Louis: 19-15
25-26 Saint Louis: 12-1 so far

62.3 winning percentage in D1. Take out his first year and it's much better.

Previously a HC in D2 and won 83% of games, won the conference 8 of 9 years straight at one point, and made multiple D2 tournament runs.

Coach of the year in his respective conferences 8 times.

50 years old. Born in Brooklyn NY. Attended Florida Atlantic.

 

[cusefan88]

Copying my post from somewhere else about Josh Schertz from St Louis since there’s interest on the board:

he's in his 5th year as HC in D1:

21-22 Indiana State: 11-20
22-23 Indiana State: 23-13
23-24 Indiana State: 32-7
24-25 Saint Louis: 19-15
25-26 Saint Louis: 12-1 so far

62.3 winning percentage in D1. Take out his first year and it's much better.

Previously a HC in D2 and won 83% of games, won the conference 8 of 9 years straight at one point, and made multiple D2 tournament runs. Coach of the year in his respective conferences 8 times.

50 years old. Born in Brooklyn NY. Attended Florida Atlantic.

100% feels like Schertz and Tony Skinn should be the top two choices with Hodgson a distant third (unless USF tears it up).

 

[GHLF]

If you live overseas you aren’t coming back to CNY for the vineyards. Pretty and all that, but the wine isn’t up to the same standard.

Well, I guess you have to take his entire post in context not just the vineyards certainly. In totality this is an amazing place to live and raise a family and I believe it is only going to get better. We need to be innovative, we need young fresh thinking minds that think out of the box. And certainly get rid of partisan politic hogwash on both sides.

 

[GHLF]

It’s amazing the pleasure some SU fans take in lambasting one of our own. I think many of those same folks would root to bring in Hopkins, who has alread proven not to be a winning HC

I completely agree with this and I believe there's some extremely sick people on this board literally toxic. And how about this sadly I'm not even sure if this gentleman is right for this job. I do know this, He is a ridiculously good guy and from an impact perspective he has impacted so many people with his goodness on and off the court. I am so rooting for coach Red. My hope is that he believes in himself and hope comes from what he professes. goodness, grace and wisdom some of which many will never ever taste because of toxic heart infused with pride who tear down instead of lift up even upon finding a valid weakness which is literally every one of us right?

 

[phsyra]

Shertz sounds good to me

 

[5OutFred]

As it feels like the board is collectively building a "case" for Josh Schertz, here's an data-backed example of real system, Red. They lead the country in closest distance for 2-point attempts, while being top 15 in 3 point %.

How do you take so many shots close to the hoop? System intent, scheme to open up shots, and coaching. A plan, a system, a coach with direction. He's our guy.

 

[Cuseball]

As it feels like the board is collectively building a "case" for Josh Schertz, here's an data-backed example of real system, Red. They lead the country in closest distance for 2-point attempts, while being top 15 in 3 point %.

How do you take so many shots close to the hoop? System intent, scheme to open up shots, and coaching. A plan, a system, a coach with direction. He's our guy.

yes but can he get to Level 5 intensity and playing fast