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If that's their strategy then they must have money. But Someone is taking the high school kids.

Getting HS kids is great and all, but outside of the top 5-10 guys you aren’t getting anything guaranteed in year one. All the recent big winners outside of Duke have been with upperclassmen. If we can sign HS players and keep them great, but every year you have to re-recruit the entire team. It’s pretty much guaranteed that half of the players on the list you shared won’t finish with their initial school.
 
Wasn't really comparing them, just saying that what Hodgson has done doesn't stand out as being exceptional. Larger point is there are probably a couple dozen coaches with similar results.

South Florida was 25-8 just two years ago. Then 13-19. Now 17-8.

Siena was 4-28 two years ago. Then 14-18 and now 17-8.

Don't know how elite he is as a recruiter since South Florida has zero 2026 commitments. He's no Fran Brown.

There are ZERO players from the 25-8 roster that is currently on the USF squad, so the fact that they had a successful season 2 seasons ago doesn't mean anything. It's not like they kept everyone from that season and Hodgson is just picking up where they left off.

I said in another post in the last 6 years before Hodgson got their both Ark St and USF had 1 winning season... The 6 years before GMac got their Siena had 1 losing season...

So if you are looking at recent histories of the programs, then GMac was a place that had more recent success overall, but like I said, rosters almost change every season, so bringing up what teams' records were previously had no real impact unless you can show they kept a bunch of the core players, which didn't happen.

He was known for being an elite recruiter when he was the lead assistant coach for Alabama, and Oats he has a great reputation on the recruiting trail and is widely considered an outstanding recruiter. It could have zero recruits for 2026 for any number of reasons. Maybe he wont be their next year and isn't recruiting. Maybe he doesn't want to bring freshmen into a program like that and just looking at portal players because they will not get an impact as a freshman at USF with the money being thrown around.

Having a top 10 scoring offense in the entirety of college basketball isn't exceptional?
 
Hodgson is a very good recruiter. He was Oats top guy when he was under him. I’m not worried about him getting players if he gets here. After Schertz I prefer him to every other MM candidate.
I’ll be honest and I like Schertz a lot. This is more to speak to how high I am on Hodgson. It’s close very close on option 1. For Hodgson to have USF at the top of the American in year 1 is very very impressive.
 
There are ZERO players from the 25-8 roster that is currently on the USF squad, so the fact that they had a successful season 2 seasons ago doesn't mean anything. It's not like they kept everyone from that season and Hodgson is just picking up where they left off.

I said in another post in the last 6 years before Hodgson got their both Ark St and USF had 1 winning season... The 6 years before GMac got their Siena had 1 losing season...

So if you are looking at recent histories of the programs, then GMac was a place that had more recent success overall, but like I said, rosters almost change every season, so bringing up what teams' records were previously had no real impact unless you can show they kept a bunch of the core players, which didn't happen.

He was known for being an elite recruiter when he was the lead assistant coach for Alabama, and Oats he has a great reputation on the recruiting trail and is widely considered an outstanding recruiter. It could have zero recruits for 2026 for any number of reasons. Maybe he wont be their next year and isn't recruiting. Maybe he doesn't want to bring freshmen into a program like that and just looking at portal players because they will not get an impact as a freshman at USF with the money being thrown around.

Having a top 10 scoring offense in the entirety of college basketball isn't exceptional?
I completely understand what you’re saying about his turnaround. But I guess my point is just that South Florida, based on their recent coaching hires, seems to be putting more resources and money into their program relative to the rest of the American conference. Similar to Saint Louis in the A-10 actually. Both schools sound like they have good NIL situations for mid majors. But I do agree that Hodgson would be a good choice if we can’t get Schertz. I also like Takayo Siddle at UNC Wilmington.
 
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If the rumors are true Schertz is essentially locked up already and not here. Hodgson not a target from what I've heard but things change.
I will say that this inside info from Jeremy that Hodgson is not a target at all (as of last week) seemed absolutely wild to me, considering his track record and NY state ties. I would think he’d be one of the top 5 or top 3 guys that we’d target as the head coach. I mean, besides Schertz, who else is a no brainer for an interview? Skinn and Eric Olen, who I think Phil has mentioned, could be among the top targets, and there are some other guys like Siddle that I like, but it concerns me that Wildhack and athletic department folks or key boosters wouldn’t be looking closely at Hodgson. It gives me anxiety that they’re going to make a bad hire like Langel or Gmac.
 
I will say that this inside info from Jeremy that Hodgson is not a target at all (as of last week) seemed absolutely wild to me, considering his track record and NY state ties. I would think he’d be one of the top 5 or top 3 guys that we’d target as the head coach. I mean, besides Schertz, who else is a no brainer for an interview? Skinn and Eric Olen, who I think Phil has mentioned, could be among the top targets, and there are some other guys like Siddle that I like, but it concerns me that Wildhack and athletic department folks or key boosters wouldn’t be looking closely at Hodgson. It gives me anxiety that they’re going to make a bad hire like Langel or Gmac.

Again keep in mind these things can flip on a dime sometimes. Either side may change their interest level or the top spot for either side could no longer be viable so there's a re-engagement etc.
 

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