Coach Search Options after Autry

[RF2044]

It's because the folks on the Board, and influential donors, don't have the slightest clue about offensive systems, defensive systems, S&C, or program leadership writ large.

They know Hop and like Hop. And apparently a few, who haven't given $$$ previously, will do so for Hop.

I mean, that's nice and all. But we're going to perpetually struggle with player compensation. I have zero doubt, none whatsoever, that we'll be hearing all about the financial limitations of our program, within months of (potentially) hiring Hop. We'll never, ever, have top tier $$$.

Due to that, we should consider hiring someone who can coach his way out of a wet paper bag. Hop has shown no indication he can do that. We have 7 years of evidence.

But whatever, I'm not worrying about any of it. More and more I'm convinced the glory days of SU hoops are gone forever. That's the subtext of every insider post.

Great post, Scooch.

 

[FrancoPizza]

The fact that Lyke is already on staff and in a pole position for the AD job is telling.

This isn't about nostalgia change... It's about incompetence. She has no business being on the AD staff, let alone in contention for the AD gig.

If she gets the AD gig and such a BAD decision can be made, MORE bad decisions can certainly be made and likely will be made. Her horrible track record at pitt is a CV of mismanagement horrors. That's not nostalgia-fear-of-change, it's just total incompetence.

Chris Carlson has an e-mail address right? If he has a spine he'll write something up to get this crap out into the public sphere.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Anyone want to guess who belongs to each of these three season coaching records?

(a) 50-46
(b) 49-44

Of course you all know. A is Hop's last 3 years at UW, B is Red's tenure at SU.

Exciting!

Not defending Red, but Hopkins also went 20-38 two years prior to that 3 year stretch.

 

[richmondcuse03]

I've never worked in academia, but I've done a few projects over my career with academia. That is, by farrrrr, the slowest moving sector I've ever encountered. I've had academics take a full year to do things that a couple of junior-level analysts could have banged out in a week, tops.

I'm not in any way surprised that the hiring process will take an eternity. These people move at the pace of glaciers.

Scooch said it best. They move slowly, there's consensus building and countless other committees and things that slow down the process.

 

[FrancoPizza]

It's funny you should say that. I have a friend on the BOT. I am really hoping they don't ask me for my advice on this.

Why? It's your chance to sway the committee.

 

[Orangezoo]

I’m honestly just hopeful all the power brokers in the room deciding on the future of SU Athletics understand that making a top down comfortable change playing politics that would keep things in the Cuse family, and doing so again where the community and higher volume of support from fans and alums wants something else is high risk.

Thus such a decision could push us into a reality as bad as football faced for an extended period of time and all but destroy the capital that’s left with the SU BB brand.

 

[2B20Again]

Scooch said it best. They move slowly, there's consensus building and countless other committees and things that slow down the process.

Basically, a clown show! Disastrous, but typical glacier is perfect

 

[gilardino]

Hello. IMHO the next coach will either be BH or HOP.

 

[dasher]

Why? It's your chance to sway the committee.

Because I really like Hop. Think he is a great person. I don't like what I have seen from BH (the Autry crap that I am very sure is true) But I would pick BH. That is why. Might be hard for others to understand I will grant.

 

[FrancoPizza]

They know Hop and like Hop. And apparently a few, who haven't given $$$ previously, will do so for Hop.

Where were these friends when the contract to replace JB with Hop got ripped up? They like Hop because he's a great guy and their best bet to retain access, not because of his qualifications.

 

[FrancoPizza]

Hello. IMHO the next coach will either be BH or HOP.

Oh boy. Just a couple days ago you had "utmost confidence" it would be BH.

 

[dasher]

Hello. IMHO the next coach will either be BH or HOP.

Safe bet.

 

[MikeSU02]

Hello. IMHO the next coach will either be BH or HOP.

I cannot believe Hop is even in consideration, but fingers crossed for Hodgson.

 

[JaySU22]

I love Hopkins for what’s it worth I’d be thrilled if he were our next HC sorry if that makes people mad

It would be amazing if he got it and succeeded but fear it would just be a bad sequel to the Red era

 

[721Comstock]

Safe bet.

OOOOF.

Then let’s hope we don’t FFF it up with hiring BH then.

 

[Orangezoo]

It's because the folks on the Board, and influential donors, don't have the slightest clue about offensive systems, defensive systems, S&C, or program leadership writ large.

They know Hop and like Hop. And apparently a few, who haven't given $$$ previously, will do so for Hop.

I mean, that's nice and all. But we're going to perpetually struggle with player compensation. I have zero doubt, none whatsoever, that we'll be hearing all about the financial limitations of our program, within months of (potentially) hiring Hop. We'll never, ever, have top tier $$$.

Due to that, we should consider hiring someone who can coach his way out of a wet paper bag. Hop has shown no indication he can do that. We have 7 years of evidence.

But whatever, I'm not worrying about any of it. More and more I'm convinced the glory days of SU hoops are gone forever. That's the subtext of every insider post.

Nail meet head. Faith is gone and a decision that fails to show commitment to real change won’t resonate and will kill off any excitement before it starts. Just hope they are ok with the reality then Dome will be a pathetic 2/3 empty site to show just how much such a decision would turn people off even more than they already were.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

Waffle House or IHOP?

We're not looking at anyone named Denny, are we?

 

[Irishsecra1]

I like Bryan Hodgson.
Born and raised in Western New York.
Was Nate Oats assistant at Buffalo and Alabama.
Was lead recruiter for Alabama and brought in some great recruits.
Now he is HC at Arkansas State. Has them turned around after being awful. They beat Memphis this season.

Arkansas State is 18-11 with a 9-7 conference record and is currently tied for sixth in the Sun Belt.

 

[Scooch]

Nail meet head. Faith is gone and a decision that fails to show commitment to real change won’t resonate and will kill off any excitement before it starts. Just hope they are ok with the reality then Dome will be a pathetic 2/3 empty site to show just how much such a decision would turn people off even more than they already were.

I’m not so sure Hop would turn off the fanbase. SU has a LOT of casual fans who I suspect would like that hire.

 

[Iowa044]

If any of ya are ever down in the Burlington area look me up.

I am actually from Burlington but live in Cedar Rapids now

 

[LAorange44]

Not defending Red, but Hopkins also went 20-38 two years prior to that 3 year stretch.

Let’s be objective and mention one of those years was the Covid year where Washington, like NY, had insane restrictions. Fair to call it an outlier due to unusual circumstances????

 

[tptcuse]

Hello. IMHO the next coach will either be BH or HOP.

This is wild to me after your post the other day. Time for me to work on being more Zen.

 

[dasher]

Where were these friends when the contract to replace JB with Hop got ripped up? They like Hop because he's a great guy and their best bet to retain access, not because of his qualifications.

Hop basically ripped it up by leaving. If Hop would have stayed, the turmoil would have made this look like a day at the beach. But he left and saved us the spectacle of Jim being forced out by Mike.

 

[Widget24]

Arkansas State is 18-11 with a 9-7 conference record and is currently tied for sixth in the Sun Belt.

Is your point that they stink again because Hodgson left for USF after last season?

 

[RF2044]

Hop basically ripped it up by leaving. If Hop would have stayed, the turmoil would have made this look like a day at the beach. But he left and saved us the spectacle of Jim being forced out by Mike.

...and / or the agreement being in place being blatantly disregarded by JB to Hop's detriment.

Mike took one for the team, for sure.