Coach Search Options after Autry

[RF2044]

There was a window for Hop to be successful at Cuse.

A DECADE AGO.

But JAB overstayed his welcome, and Hop didn’t want to be the guy who forced his mentor to retire when he clearly did not want to.

Here we are a decade later, but Hop is no longer the answer, nor is any other guy who:
- happens to be a coach currently AND
- happened to have been a guard at Cuse under JAB.

There is NO sane universe where that 2nd criteria carries any weight in making the best possible HC hire.

And yet…. here we are.
Again.

WTAF??!!
Have we learned NOTHING??

You do NOT make a “continuity hire” when the ongoing trajectory has been that of a train going over a cliff.

Stop making sense.

No place for logic here. VIVA AGENDAS!!!!

 

[littlereg]

the same people rationalizing any of this bs and nepotism are the same people who excused and rationalized it this off season, last season, last off season, when JB retired -> hiring process of red. They won’t answer our full fledged rebutals without being obtuse or emotional.

We’re continuing to run ourselves exactly like a program who has been unsuccessful, embarrassing and irrelevant for the last 10 years while simultaneously walking and talking like our poop smells like flowers.

 

[dasher]

the same people rationalizing any of this bs and nepotism are the same people who excused and rationalized it this off season, last season, last off season, when JB retired -> hiring process of red. They won’t answer our full fledged rebutals without being obtuse or emotional.

We’re continuing to run ourselves exactly like a program who has been unsuccessful, embarrassing and irrelevant for the last 10 years while simultaneously walking and talking like our poop smells like flowers.

Who on the board has advocated for Gerry or Hopkins? Some on the BOT. Melo. But they aren't on this board. I haven't seen anyone answer any of the questions while being obtuse or emotional because I haven't read any supporters for those two.

 

[721Comstock]

Who on the board has advocated for Gerry or Hopkins? Some on the BOT. Melo. But they aren't on this board.

Or…. are they?

 

[dasher]

Or…. are they?

If they are, they haven't made their case on this board.

 

[IthacaBarrel]

Is that Ed's son?

nephew. J is the coach at Oswego St and has been there quite awhile and been quite succesful. Surprised he hasn't jumped up a level at this point. Great coach, Great guy as well.

CBA class of 94 FWIW

 

[orangefog]

Potentially. But think about how organic the Fran brown situation arose. But for a few people no one really had him in the mix. What I can tell you is that there is inbound interest that has not been discussed here…

Jay Wright?

 

[Ozone!]

While I appreciate your pov, and actually agree with most of it, saying we can’t determine if their decisions are right or wrong seems shaky considering their decision to hire Autry. Past behavior frequently is a guide to future behavior.

Unless there is learning from mistakes which could be operational here. We won’t know until hires are made and the new HC has a season or 2 to operate his plan!

 

[Fly Rodder]

Jay Wright?

 

[FrancoPizza]

Is the "field" good or should we hope that we for the ocean and the shark that's in it?

I know there's a rob konrad AD joke in there somewhere.

 

[AZOrange]

Jay Wright?

Haha no, not that I’ve heard. You want a younger guy with good recruiting ties that has dealt with the paid players era

 

[FrancoPizza]

Maybe (hopefully) I’m wrong, but I get the feeling that the BOT is considering Hop more because they feel he was screwed over when the original JB retirement changed than because they truly believe he is the guy to rectify our current situation.

I guess we can add survivor guilt to the list of possible reasons a coach gets interviewed.

 

[themole]

I wish I could get my friend Jason Leone hired. He can coach. Flat out. One can dream

woah I went to middle school with that guy

 

[cusefan88]

This is honestly one of the best threads I've ever read. Has absolutely everything. Hall of Fame first ballot.

 

[Jeremy L.]

One thing I haven’t seen mentioned for Hop is his current role with the Pelicans as a player development coach.

New Orleans is 16-42 and at the bottom of the Western Conference

 

[Franz69]

This is honestly one of the best threads I've ever read. Has absolutely everything. Hall of Fame first ballot.

Needs more alcohol, flying ambulances, rental car companies, thruway stakeouts and kick-ass actors.

 

[Newhouser]

One thing I haven’t seen mentioned for Hop is his current role with the Pelicans as a player development coach.

New Orleans is 16-42 and in the bottom of the Western Conference

Troy Weaver further adding to his powerful NBA resume.

 

[721Comstock]

Needs more alcohol, flying ambulances, rental car companies, thruway stakeouts and kick-ass actors.

Throw in a love potion and unsatisfied purchaser and we could have an all-timer!!

 

[Dmcnabbrules]

Is Kimani Young a candiddate?

 

[Melancer46]

Jason Hart was the head coach of the G League Ignite in 2023-24 and led them to an impressive 2-32 record (Yes 2-32). They were 31 out 31 in points per game on offense so dead last and they were 25th out of 31 in points per game for defense. Dead last in Off RTG and second to last in Def RTG and again dead last in Net RTG with an impressive -15.7. And he has never been a college head coach...

If that doesn't scream qualified, I don't know what does...I am sure he isn't on the list because he played at Syracuse.

I absolutely do not want him to be our coach, but this is a bit unfair. That program wasn't really meant to compete in the G-League; it was really just to prepare prospects for the draft. Think you can argue it failed at that too though (though they did get a handful of guys drafted and some drafted highly).

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

Throw in a love potion and unsatisfied purchaser and we could have an all-timer!!

I'm getting ads for breast pumps while viewing this thread, so I think that's a good omen for where things are headed.

 

[TommyA13]

I wish I could get my friend Jason Leone hired. He can coach. Flat out. One can dream

I’m probably one of the younger people on this board, but I actually just had him as my professor for a class at SUNY Oswego lol. He’s a great guy, very knowledgeable about what he does, and just got his 300th win at Oswego as HC, so no doubt he can coach and is a winner!

 

[littlereg]

Who on the board has advocated for Gerry or Hopkins? Some on the BOT. Melo. But they aren't on this board. I haven't seen anyone answer any of the questions while being obtuse or emotional because I haven't read any supporters for those two.

I never even said anything about people saying they’d specifically “want gmac or hopkins”, I said people that rationalize it, which there is plentiful.
Anyways, If you are genuinely saying you haven’t seen people saying they’d be okay, and support it I really don’t know how honest this conversation can be. It took me longer to crop these pictures than it did to find find multiple examples(3 minutes btw).some of which you were engaged with. There’s a poll asking if we’d be okay with hopkins as HC and 40+ voted yes. So by every definition possible, “they’re on this board”. We have had multiple people in this thread say it.

 

[capeorange]

Let’s be objective and mention one of those years was the Covid year where Washington, like NY, had insane restrictions. Fair to call it an outlier due to unusual circumstances????

Gonzaga is also in Washington and they did pretty well during the same time. Hop owns that record.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/gonzaga/men/

 

[TommyA13]

nephew. J is the coach at Oswego St and has been there quite awhile and been quite succesful. Surprised he hasn't jumped up a level at this point. Great coach, Great guy as well.

CBA class of 94 FWIW

Agree with everything you said, seeing it first hand as a student at Oswego (on and off the court), I can’t believe he hasn’t moved up. But maybe he just likes Oswego and where he’s at