Coach Search Options after Autry

[OttoinGrotto]

Don’t sell yourself short, Dasher! This 69 year old PF would run through a wall for you!

I knew it!

Consigliere still got the juice!

 

[CuseFan]

Well, think about someone who is the opposite of you. Maybe they donate to the coach regardless of where they coach?

Other than personal friends and family, why would they? What tie do they have to the coach. May they want access to the coach for some reason as a corporate or personal sponsor?

 

[Briancuse]

Red's 1st year was decent (by his standards). So were Hop's first two. No long-term success.

It was a hard year to.judge, yes they won 20 games, but they got blown out by too many good teams, and weren't even close to the bubble.

 

[dwilmont44]

We could turn this into a reality show pitting donor vs donor and coach vs coach in challenges of brains and brawn.

Sell the rights to Netflix and boom we've got NIL money.

 

[PauliePeppas]

This program is starting to remind me of my Jets

 

[sufan59]

We could turn this into a reality show pitting donor vs donor and coach vs coach in challenges of brains and brawn.

Sell the rights to Netflix and boom we've got NIL money.

Syracuse has lots of connections to the NBC and Peacock family...

 

[SanDiegoCuse]

This program is starting to remind me of my Jets

 

[phil77]

Other than personal friends and family, why would they? What tie do they have to the coach. May they want access to the coach for some reason as a corporate or personal sponsor?

You hit them all in your post, could be all of those things...

 

[Sherman20]

He would need an offensive coordinator. That’s the only way this is even passable. Makes Reds system look like peak 2010’s Warriors with how bad his offense's were.

I love Hop btw. But he needs a restart at a mid major and go kill it there and update what he’s doing on offense with a more modern offense, hopefully informed by his time in the NBA.

 

[Fly Rodder]

I love Hop btw. But he needs a restart at a mid major and go kill it there and update what he’s doing on offense with a more modern offense, hopefully informed by his time in the NBA.

The guy is 56, I wouldn't be sure how much longer he plans on coaching. The downside with Schertz is that he's older for a non-P4 head coach. My preference would be for someone who wants to get their name on, oh, I don't know, what's left? The locker rooms? The benches?

 

[djorange1989]

The guy is 56, I wouldn't be sure how much longer he plans on coaching. The downside with Schertz is that he's older for a non-P4 head coach. My preference would be for someone who wants to get their name on, oh, I don't know, what's left? The locker rooms? The benches?

The pee troughs?

 

[Cuse2023]

Asking what might be an ignorant naive question, but why would donor dollars follow any coach from one school to the next? I donate my dollars to the school I love (and my kids school too), regardless of who the coach is. Maybe I don't donate if I don't like the coach. Maybe I do.

But in any case if a coach left that I liked, my money is not going to him/her to a different school.
Help me understand the logic that I would all of sudden donate to BC or St. Johns or whoever? Or, do I simply not have enough money to play in this influence the coach game?

Some wealthy people like to support their friends…

 

[kingtidge]

Syracuse has lots of connections to the NBC and Peacock family...

 

[Jeremy L.]

I wonder if somebody like Chris Mack could also be a sneaky option. Success at Xavier, had an okay stint at Louisville before getting canned, and is having some good success at Charleston. Maybe he’s still tied with some UofL donors?

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

yesssss just keep lining up the candidates who have never operated in this new NIL world! Syracuse cant possibly lose!

He’s at Kentucky. They were paying players before it was fashionable

 

[atlanticuse]

This program is starting to remind me of my Jets

Arizona Cardinals = Desert Jets

 

[orange79]

Jelly Roll is coming to town. I heard he's the mystery donor pushing for Hop

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I won't believe this until Coach Hop shows up at a game like this:

 

[Jake]

Just a random observation. Hodgson’s back story (upbringing etc), the offensive pace/intensity they play, that super funky - sticky zone he showed the other night (which actually impressed me more than his offense), and his kinda sorta cocky attitude, all combined reminds a lot of Tarkanian in his heyday.

 

[PauliePeppas]

Just a random observation. Hodgson’s back story (upbringing etc), the offensive pace/intensity they play, and that super funky - sticky zone he showed the other night (which actually impressed me more than his offense), his kinda sorta cocky attitude, all combined reminds a lot of Tarkanian in his heyday.

Passes the vibe test for sure

 

[orange79]

Just a random observation. Hodgson’s back story (upbringing etc), the offensive pace/intensity they play, and that super funky - sticky zone he showed the other night (which actually impressed me more than his offense), his kinda sorta cocky attitude, all combined reminds a lot of Tarkanian in his heyday.

 

[sufan59]

Hodgson or any outsider that didn't play or coach at Syracuse (Hodgson is a fan and worked camps here though) biggest obstacle for success at Syracuse would be the exclusionary attitude they may meet day 1 from those with influence, could be basketball alumni, administrators, or donors who can't let go of this concept of an outsider running the men's basketball program. I wished this keep it in the family thing worked, it didn't. They aren't even close enough from a success standpoint to make emotional decisions on these matters anymore. The other time you can make the emotional decisions is when you hit rock bottom, there is no risk at that point. We aren't close to rock bottom, just a bit below average since the pandemic. Hodgson is obviously the front runner outsider, so he is taking a lot of punches and critiques. Don't underestimate that these punches and critiques could be out of implicit bias. It is very clear he is the best guy for Syracuse. as well as the best guy that appears to be interested in Syracuse. The implicit bias could also be concern that he is the best guy and if he succeeds in the form of consistent tournament appearances, deep runs, and maybe a national championship. That window for a Boeheim protege at Syracuse could be closed forever. It's possible GMAC or another Syracuse basketball alumni is a head coach at Syracuse Men's Basketball someday, but they can't make this decision now based on leaving that door open.

 

[orangepassion]

Just a random observation. Hodgson’s back story (upbringing etc), the offensive pace/intensity they play, that super funky - sticky zone he showed the other night (which actually impressed me more than his offense), and his kinda sorta cocky attitude, all combined reminds a lot of Tarkanian in his heyday.

Does he chew on towels?

 

[nocohalo]

I’m probably one of the younger people on this board, but I actually just had him as my professor for a class at SUNY Oswego lol. He’s a great guy, very knowledgeable about what he does, and just got his 300th win at Oswego as HC, so no doubt he can coach and is a winner!

He definitely wins and is a good coach, but his on court persona might rub some people the wrong way. Though I personally don't care, wins are all that matters at this point.

 

[hoopsupstate]

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Just a random observation. Hodgson’s back story (upbringing etc), the offensive pace/intensity they play, that super funky - sticky zone he showed the other night (which actually impressed me more than his offense), and his kinda sorta cocky attitude, all combined reminds a lot of Tarkanian in his heyday.

Don’t they call him the “Shark” on the recruiting trail?

 

[2B20Again]

Hodgson or any outsider that didn't play or coach at Syracuse (Hodgson is a fan and worked camps here though) biggest obstacle for success at Syracuse would be the exclusionary attitude they may meet day 1 from those with influence, could be basketball alumni, administrators, or donors who can't let go of this concept of an outsider running the men's basketball program. I wished this keep it in the family thing worked, it didn't. They aren't even close enough from a success standpoint to make emotional decisions on these matters anymore. The other time you can make the emotional decisions is when you hit rock bottom, there is no risk at that point. We aren't close to rock bottom, just a bit below average since the pandemic. Hodgson is obviously the front runner outsider, so he is taking a lot of punches and critiques. Don't underestimate that these punches and critiques could be out of implicit bias. It is very clear he is the best guy for Syracuse. as well as the best guy that appears to be interested in Syracuse. The implicit bias could also be concern that he is the best guy and if he succeeds in the form of consistent tournament appearances, deep runs, and maybe a national championship. That window for a Boeheim protege at Syracuse could be closed forever. It's possible GMAC or another Syracuse basketball alumni is a head coach at Syracuse Men's Basketball someday, but they can't make this decision now based on leaving that door open.

I don’t know who SU will pick, I pray it the right guy. I went to games and has season tickets for over 50 years. Still go to a couple games each year but don’t get around that well any more. When I could no longer go regularly, I watched on TV with a snack and a couple of beers (both hoops and football), and a cigar. Since SU has fallen on hard times, now it’s a fifth of whiskey (before the games and two packs of luckies.) Tough on a 80 year old. If the don’t pick it up in hoops and football, I’ll never make it to 90.