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[Bulldog04]

I don't think it has to be a big deal, just a 10-15 minute conversation. I think Melo needs to get a sense of BH as a person because, for Melo, it is personal with his son involved. He trusted Red and he trusts Hop.


And big interviews happen all the time now during the season. Last year, most hires were done before March Madness happened, at least all under the table, and they were not announced before their teams were eleminated but most of the stuff we are talking about on the board now was probably done about this time last year.

I would assume that there is some serious talks with his agent and that’s who I see melo talking to at this stage. And just so you know Phil, my choice would be BH as well. At least we can all say (if it didn’t work out), we picked the right guy at the right time. Some will say “he never coached at this level etc etc” but it would cover a lot of bases if they hire him. Hopkins is like Red to me, both are top 5 human beings who love cuse more than anything, but it becomes so complex from PR to donors to everything involved with the fans if he’s the guy. Just my two cents

 

[TommyA13]

I can’t believe Syracuse is going to mess up these hc and ad hires this badly when the solutions to these problems are right in their faces

 

[2B20Again]

Yet Lally wants her. Thought he was a more FB guy.

If that’s true it’s Sad. The key to the magic kingdom is in the next 3 years. Super conferences are around the corner. SU has to be relevant or end up with no chair when the music stops. I probably so t live that long, and that doesn’t matter. What matters is SU is in position when the music stops. Old man out. Play the long game.

 

[Scotch]

So the best I can discern is that we have a real mess on our hands.

Behind the scenes, there are power struggles taking place for all three positions currently open. Chancellor, AD and MBB.

There seem to be competing factions at each position, and there seems to be a clear direction for what I would say is “Team Lally”…which appears to be involved in all three.

Their slate of candidates appear to be:
Chancellor Haynie
AD Lyke
Coach Hodgson
(The last two for sure, not sure about Haynie)

They are opposed on Lyke by some very influential FB supporters.

And they are opposed on Hodgson by Team Melo.(Hop)
Melo will not be outspent here.

I don’t know how this is all going to fall out, but I think Haynie is going to be a winner here.

The AD situation is too close to call.

As is the MBB coach.

The overarching picture here is the Lally’s attempt to consolidate control. I don’t think they’re going to stop until the school is renamed Lally University @ Syracuse.

Let’s just say their name above Melo’s on the basketball facility has been “duly noted”.

I think a Hop - Lyke result would be somewhat of a potential compromise.

As Dash has noted, I don’t see anyway the Lally’s support Hop, nor Melo supports Hodgson.

 

[sufan59]

Well this is entertaining to follow, but not exactly a complete horror movie or romantic comedy yet. I prefer romantic comedies. A feel good outcome.

 

[phil77]

And just so you know Phil, my choice would be BH as well. At least we can all say (if it didn’t work out), we picked the right guy at the right time. Some will say “he never coached at this level etc etc” but it would cover a lot of bases if they hire him.

This is why I get so frustrated. This is like the perfect time to switch everything up. We have a guy who has had early success at two stops already in his young career (not at P4 level) and basically does everything program-wise and on the court-wise different than we have ever done. It is exactly what our program needs, and it seems so logical and easy. On top of that --That coach actually wants the job. I just can't believe Syracuse would let politics get in the way of things like this. Well, I can, but I do not want to.

 

[sufan59]

This is why I get so frustrated. This is like the perfect time to switch everything up. We have a guy who has had early success at two stops already in his young career (not at P4 level) and basically does everything program-wise and on the court-wise different than we have ever done. It is exactly what our program needs, and it seems so logical and easy. On top of that --That coach actually wants the job. I just can't believe Syracuse would let politics get in the way of things like this. Well, I can, but I do not want to.

I think 95% of this board or more is with you on this

 

[Cusefan69]

That info isn't super solid. just what I heard.

Understood. Appreciate the info you, Jake, Richmond, 007 and others have shared. Certainly understand nothing information wise is written in stone or completely solid but the aggregate inputs shared provide us a view in.

 

[2B20Again]

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Yea it’s brutal.

Trying to think about what if anything can get me behind Hop.

I would need to see a top 10 portal class come in and be top 4-5 ACC. I’m not dumb enough that the smoke either of these 2 crews are blowing our way is going to get us better than Duke, UNC, or Louisville but we better have better talent than UVA, NcSt, SMU and Miami next year then.

And no what ifs on if these portal guys make big jumps.

We gotta get pretty much the best 1 and 5 available. Not to mention legit assistants.

If I see those things happen with actual top players signing pen to paper to come here under Hop and Melo then maybe I can keep an open mind.

Disagree. If you go with Hop and the big money, go big or go home no HS recruits fo 2027 so portal need to be 1 or 2 in the portal. If you are going to have a dance you gotta pay the band.

 

[FrancoPizza]

What a great summery Jake. I think you nailed it. God help us. And to say it again, what a mess.

Why does Lally want Lyke? Of all the ADs in all the world and he picks her???

let him have Hodgson. Please!!!

 

[cusefan88]

I'm sure this happens at a majority of D1 programs. But the difference here is Cuse is juggling 3 high profile jobs at the same time rather than just 1.

 

[W'boro'Cuse315]

I can’t believe Syracuse is going to mess up these hc and ad hires this badly when the solutions to these problems are right in their faces

Konrad & who?

 

[FrancoPizza]

I think the answer here is obvious. John Wildhack needs to postpone his retirement until the smoke clears.

 

[sufan59]

I'm sure this happens at a majority of D1 programs. But the difference here is Cuse is juggling 3 high profile jobs at the same time rather than just 1.

For sure, it’s just so much messier because it’s 3 high profile jobs not 1. People not involved with Syracuse are genuinely fascinated by this because it’s so fascinating and unusual. It’s like a case study around administrative politics.

 

[2B20Again]

This is why I get so frustrated. This is like the perfect time to switch everything up. We have a guy who has had early success at two stops already in his young career (not at P4 level) and basically does everything program-wise and on the court-wise different than we have ever done. It is exactly what our program needs, and it seems so logical and easy. On top of that --That coach actually wants the job. I just can't believe Syracuse would let politics get in the way of things like this. Well, I can, but I do not want to.

Believe it. They’ve been doing it for 100 years. Yet I still love SU. Maybe that says too much about me. I’ll talk to my brother he’s a shrink.

 

[FrancoPizza]

I don't know. It would not surprise me if they did. ergo, why Jake and I have both called this a mess.

I can tolerate lyke if we get Hodgson. Thinking Lyke will do something so stupid or scandalous that she won’t last long enough to matter.

 

[TommyA13]

Konrad & who?

Lyke as AD, Konrad as HC for football, Hopkins Bball HC with Etan Thomas as his top assistant

 

[Jasoncuse]

Lyke as AD, Konrad as HC for football, Hopkins Bball HC with Etan Thomas as his top assistant

Konrad to replace Red

 

[Bulldog04]

I'm sure this happens at a majority of D1 programs. But the difference here is Cuse is juggling 3 high profile jobs at the same time rather than just 1.

4. Add in Herms job. People are forgetting that. AD, coach, chancellor and Herms position. Wild wild times

 

[Scotch]

Problem is she reportedly could not fund raise any upgrades she started and also built a $240 million dollar volleyball facility. Also believe more in giving all sports more funding than the bigger 2. (Football and men’s basketball)

She brings the exact opposite mindset we need at this point in time.

 

[Briancuse]

Just out of curiosity for the ones in the know, does anyone on the board or from the school read these forums or social media to get a gage for how students and alumni are feeling?

 

[pearl31]

Do we think Lallys could match Melo's group in funding $ if they were so inclined?

 

[Scotch]

We also have to separate John from Laura in this equation. For some reason Lyke convinced Laura she was the right person for the job.

Absolute clown show.

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

Just out of curiosity for the ones in the know, does anyone on the board or from the school read these forums or social media to get a gage for how students and alumni are feeling?

 

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