Coach Search Options after Autry

[whobut03]

I have been saying this since this kerfuffle started.

This is a microcosm of the CNY business environment. We don’t lack talent. We don’t lack resources. We lack collaboration.

 

[CuseBlood44]

Did he say no, or was he not aware of it?

He said nothing mentioned to BOT or the athletics committee and that nobody from athletics is currently aware of this

 

[kingtidge]

Well, all the smoke is indicating their are going to screw it up, and royally.

There is no way in hell that the AD search firm will be recommending Lyke and they will "lykely" outline, in detail, her numerous and serious issues and red flags...

If she is hired anyways, then they will have discarded that guidance but "will have been" told...

(or the BOT may have told the firm to exclude her from research, as she's an internal employee and already in the running...)

 

[llandz]

I agree on Devo as an assistant coach. His knowledge is immense if you listen to him on broadcasts. He understands the game and the players. Plus he is mature enough now not to be their best friend, and to be very serious with players when needed. He knows the xs and os of the game.

 

[Bill Orange]

Interesting.

It can be done before the season ends.

 

[Jasoncuse]

Do you all remember that Hopkins was on the Olympic staff in Rio and I think in London too. I remember seeing some video of him working with James HArden. He knows how to coach players and advance skills. If Melo is putting together a warchest with NBA money, it is probably coming from some guys who became better players with his coaching.

I am not saying he is head coach material..it is hard to look past his last few years in Washington. But if Hopkins was coaching this years team, Donnie would be better, Kiyan would be better, our point gaurd would have grown instead of regressing. If they brought the fire and determination that hopkins had as a player this years team would be tournament bound.

a month or two of being on the staff of the Olympic team with fully developed superstars is hardly any proof of his coaching abilities.

And why would Donnie, Kiyan and George be better under his coaching? I'd imagine we'd be in a similar position, since his offenses were clunky, iso garbage at UW as well.

 

[mustacheovich]

Made the big time

I don't trust anyone still using light mode on this site

 

[littlereg]

A “search” and it’s actually just their closest buddies a financial partners.

 

[Sherman20]

I believe he is on both the Chancellor and AD search committees. He is the Vice Chair of the voting BoT. He is kind of a big deal in all of this.

This is what I was hoping to hear. I’m just an outsider, but you get the sense that Tirico is so well liked and respected. I believe he suggested or helped to facilitate recruiting Wildhack for the AD job in the first place.

 

[Cusefan78]

He said nothing mentioned to BOT or the athletics committee and that nobody from athletics is currently aware of this

seems like they are a bit defensive.

 

[Franz69]

Do you all remember that Hopkins was on the Olympic staff in Rio and I think in London too. I remember seeing some video of him working with James HArden. He knows how to coach players and advance skills. If Melo is putting together a warchest with NBA money, it is probably coming from some guys who became better players with his coaching.

I am not saying he is head coach material..it is hard to look past his last few years in Washington. But if Hopkins was coaching this years team, Donnie would be better, Kiyan would be better, our point gaurd would have grown instead of regressing. If they brought the fire and determination that hopkins had as a player this years team would be tournament bound.

 

[Cusefan0307]

The only two alum who I think would make good staff members are Devendorf and Triche. Devo has the edge to his game and personality that the program is lacking.

Brandon seems to be building a really good second career training local players and improving their skills. He's another crafty guard and smart player who I think would be an asset to the program.

I like both of them. They are great guys, hard workers, would help instill intensity, and work well one on one with players honing their skills, but neither are good hires for Hop. They are not going to innovate new offensive concepts for Hop.

 

[Fly Rodder]

Tinkle has multiple tourney appearances to his name AND he's 6'10" so he knows basketball and can coach the big men.

 

[powdersmack]

if Hopkins was coaching this years team, Donnie would be better, Kiyan would be better, our point gaurd would have grown instead of regressing. If they brought the fire and determination that hopkins had as a player this years team would be tournament bound.

If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.

 

[Sherman20]

Again, not focusing on any question at all. Simply making the point that there is no empirical evidence that Hodgson would be the can’t miss, sure fire thing some are portraying him to be. If he gets the gig I certainly hope he is, but until then I am willing to accept the possibility that there may be other qualified candidates.

Yeah, but you’re looking for the strongest evidence of who’s most likely to succeed and who has the proven success. Which would demonstrably not be Hop, based on his track record. That’s why we all want Schertz, who has a proven track record of winning and then moving up to the next level and then winning and moving up. And he has proven systems that he knows how to teach. Hodgson is kind of the perfect plan B. He helped Oats build Buffalo into a mid-major power and then did the same at Alabama, with a fast-paced modern offensive system that emphasizes 3-point shooting and at-the-rim shots over low value mid-range shots. It’s a player-friendly systen. He’s known as an aggressive and successful recruiter (aka The Shark) who has a proven ability to develop guys for the NBA. He’s now shown that he can win at two different program levels and seems poised to make the next jump and succeed at the p5 level. His track record is much shorter than Schertz’s but seems to be headed for big things. We should get him while we can.

There aren’t many other candidates out there who we could land that have such high upside. Jerrod Calhoun and Eric Olen would be on that list, and you could throw in a less sexy name (who’s a proven winner) in Kyle Smith, but he’s already at a P5 level. Most successful P5 coaches aren’t leaving their jobs to come here, but maybe Smith or a guy looking for a change of scenery would consider it.

Who are you thinking that should also be in the candidate pool? Steele, Skinn and Siddle could be possible fallback options.

 

[orangepassion]

Yeah, but you’re looking for the strongest evidence of who’s most likely to succeed and who has the proven success. Which would demonstrably not be Hop, based on his track record. That’s why we all want Schertz, who has a proven track record of winning and then moving up and winning and the next level. Plus proven systems that he knows how to teach. Hodgson is kind of the perfect plan B. He helped Oats build Buffalo into a mid-major power and then did the same at Alabama, with a fast-paced modern offensive system that emphasizes 3-point shooting and at-the-rim shots over low value mid-range shots. It’s a player-friendly systen. He’s known as an aggressive and successful recruiter (aka The Shark) who has a proven ability to develop guys for the NBA. He’s now shown that he can win at two different program levels and seems poised to make the next jump and succeed at the p5 level. His track record is much shorter than Schertz’s but seems to be headed for big things. We should get him while we can.

There aren’t many other candidates out there who we could land that have such high upside. Jerrod Calhoun and Eric Olen would be on that list, and you could throw in a less sexy name (who’s a proven winner) in Kyle Smith, but he’s already at a P5 level. Most successful P5 coaches aren’t leaving their jobs to come here, but maybe maybe Smith or a guy looking for a change of scenery would consider it.

Who are you thinking that should also be in the candidate pool? Can you name some possibilities? Steele, Skinn and Siddle could be possible fallback options.

If the Melo crew really wanted to help out SU as much as possible, $30 million in NIL money could likely even get SU a good P5 coach.

 

[CuseTroop]

Man, if we could monetize all this drama, we'd have NIL $ for days.
We need to get the Hard Knocks film crew on campus. Mic up these meetings!

 

[cliftonparksufan]

Yeah, but you’re looking for the strongest evidence of who’s most likely to succeed and who has the proven success. Which would demonstrably not be Hop, based on his track record. That’s why we all want Schertz, who has a proven track record of winning and then moving up and winning and the next level. Plus proven systems that he knows how to teach. Hodgson is kind of the perfect plan B. He helped Oats build Buffalo into a mid-major power and then did the same at Alabama, with a fast-paced modern offensive system that emphasizes 3-point shooting and at-the-rim shots over low value mid-range shots. It’s a player-friendly systen. He’s known as an aggressive and successful recruiter (aka The Shark) who has a proven ability to develop guys for the NBA. He’s now shown that he can win at two different program levels and seems poised to make the next jump and succeed at the p5 level. His track record is much shorter than Schertz’s but seems to be headed for big things. We should get him while we can.

There aren’t many other candidates out there who we could land that have such high upside. Jerrod Calhoun and Eric Olen would be on that list, and you could throw in a less sexy name (who’s a proven winner) in Kyle Smith, but he’s already at a P5 level. Most successful P5 coaches aren’t leaving their jobs to come here, but maybe maybe Smith or a guy looking for a change of scenery would consider it.

Who are you thinking that should also be in the candidate pool? Can you name some possibilities? Steele, Skinn and Siddle could be possible fallback options.

If you want the guy who has proven success, hands down it's Chris Mack. He's been to nine NCAA tournaments. One Elite Eight and three Sweet Sixteens and overall NCAAT record of 11-9. I'm surprised more people haven't been on his bandwagon.

 

[Briancuse]

Interesting.

It can be done before the season ends.

I'm just here for the tinkle jokes.

 

[RF2044]

Hop had zero vision for offense when he was at Washington, and he also stubbornly stuck with mostly zone. I don’t know what to say here. He’s a dynamic and charismatic personality but he’s proven that he’s not an innovator or even towards the leading edge on modern college basketball systems. I get that he could have learned a thing or two in the NBA but I tend to think not. The game is different on that level b/c of the talent, and an old dog rarely learns new tricks. Hodge or Schertz would be perfect.

Hopkins got exposed at UW as a no-trick pony.

His offense was the worst in the Pac12, and he had no tools in the tool belt beyond iso. And once they began to struggle on defense as well, he quickly reverted to zone -- because on both sides of the ball that was all he knew.

I think that in the main, he proved that his "cap" is as an assistant coach. Nothing wrong with that. But just because he has ties to the program and people like his personality doesn't mean that he should be a top candidate for a role, when the program is in a precarious position. Too much at risk / too much on the line to take a risk like this.

 

[2B20Again]

If the Melo crew really wanted to help out SU as much as possible, $30 million in NIL money could likely even get SU a good P5 coach.

Didn’t I see a list of ACC coaches and I don’t remember anyone even Duke over 3 million a year? Let’s not get crazy. You could have John Wooden, coach K, pick a name but to be successful, you need $$$$, a great coach, a great recruiter, and knowledge of the portal, and some luck. To win consistently you need it all.

 

[LAorange44]

If you want the guy who has proven success, hands down it's Chris Mack. He's been to nine NCAA tournaments. One Elite Eight and three Sweet Sixteens and overall NCAAT record of 11-9. I'm surprised more people haven't been on his bandwagon.

I’d be all in on Chris Mack over Bryan the Shark Hodgson— or as some fans call him, The Guppy (trademark pending).

 

[Jeremy L.]

Do you all remember that Hopkins was on the Olympic staff in Rio and I think in London too. I remember seeing some video of him working with James HArden. He knows how to coach players and advance skills. If Melo is putting together a warchest with NBA money, it is probably coming from some guys who became better players with his coaching.

I am not saying he is head coach material..it is hard to look past his last few years in Washington. But if Hopkins was coaching this years team, Donnie would be better, Kiyan would be better, our point gaurd would have grown instead of regressing. If they brought the fire and determination that hopkins had as a player this years team would be tournament bound.

He’s working with an NBA team now and his team is one of the worst in the league

 

[Cuse_NYC]

I’ll start by saying, I prefer Hodgson to all candidates. But, all of you thinking Red to Hop is a lateral move, I mean give me a damn break. If we beat Hofstra, BC, VT this yr, we are talking about the bubble. It’s not that hard to make the tourney anymore. Hop is much brighter than Red, and with a boat load more money, we can be pretty darn good. Hop will bring in the right assistants. He was trying to cater towards the Washington crowd with his assistants over there. Larry Brown was supposed to join his staff one year. Maybe he’ll come to cuse with him. We will all end up happy with Hop if he gets that kind of money.

 

[LpoolNative]

I will find out more on who he is looking at for coaches but I know one name for sure that he’s been talking to to join the coaching staff - our favorite trash talking #23 Eric Devendorf

Anyone who’s disliking Eric devendorf being on staff should be ashamed of themselves. Guy knows ball, flat out. He always says the right thing.