Coach Search Options after Autry

[Hawknate144]

They were "insider information" that the Patriots were signing AJ Brown and a bunch of other players, none of them happened.

Presumably from the same Providence account?

 

[orangefog]

Presumably from the same Providence account?

Oh yes, I should have mentioned that.

 

[phil77]

O can't see either of these posts, does anyone know what they said

I added the pictures of it

 

[Widget24]

Wouldn’t BH or any other coach “playing meaningful games in March” and taking a new job want things kept quiet until his season is over….also, he would want to tell his players first?

Of course. It's just that none of us can hold our wad.

 

[Chip]

Bingo.

Also, all of this money comes from the same place = wealthy boosters.

The direct payments that schools can pay to players is not going to come from their general fund or media revenue. Schools are soliciting donors to fund it.

NIL is also funded by donors.

When people suggest that hoops-onlies have an advantage because "they don't have to pay football" it ignores the fact that the money is all coming from the same place = people. Hoops-onlies are inherently smaller schools with fewer alumni that give.

Maybe a few hoops-onlies have a whale who's happy to donate $10 million a year, but I doubt it.

That's kinda what I wondered about all of this. Essentially the day of the ruling, we said we were allotting the full $20.5M. I'm guessing we didn't have $20.5M lying around in our budgets from all revenue sources less expenses (and excluding capital costs)?

I feel pretty confident that Providence doesn't.

 

[Jeremy L.]

Man if Hodg goes to Providence some people are going to have to answer some questions

 

[rrlbees]

Bingo.

Also, all of this money comes from the same place = wealthy boosters.

The direct payments that schools can pay to players is not going to come from their general fund or media revenue. Schools are soliciting donors to fund it.

NIL is also funded by donors.

When people suggest that hoops-onlies have an advantage because "they don't have to pay football" it ignores the fact that the money is all coming from the same place = people. Hoops-onlies are inherently smaller schools with fewer alumni that give.

Maybe a few hoops-onlies have a whale who's happy to donate $10 million a year, but I doubt it.

one caveat. yes its the same people donating to nil or revenue sharing. but i dont know about other schools but su didnt get anywhere near $20m in donations for rev sharing. so some $$$ does have to be budgeted by su.

 

[phil77]

Man if Hodg goes to Providence some people are going to have to answer some questions

I think if Hodgson goes to Providence that means Syracuse picked GMac and there are going to be problems up on the Hill. People higher up than on this message board will have to answer a ton of questions.

 

[Scooch]

one caveat. yes its the same people donating to nil or revenue sharing. but i dont know about other schools but su didnt get anywhere near $20m in donations for rev sharing. so some $$$ does have to be budgeted by su.

Important callout, thanks.

I wonder where the differential is coming from at SU?

 

[JeremyCuse]

I think if Hodgson goes to Providence that means Syracuse picked GMac and there are going to be problems up on the Hill. People higher up than on this message board will have to answer a ton of questions.

IF Hodgson goes to Providence over SU there will be a multitude of factors at play beyond SU picking Gmac over him. Need to let it play out a bit.

 

[Cusefan69]

one caveat. yes its the same people donating to nil or revenue sharing. but i dont know about other schools but su didnt get anywhere near $20m in donations for rev sharing. so some $$$ does have to be budgeted by su.

Which honestly should not be any issue given the media rights payouts we get annually and that have increased ~$4.5M per year with last payout around $44/$45M. There's likely another bump in our next media payment.

 

[JeremyCuse]

Important callout, thanks.

I wonder where the differential is coming from at SU?

Conference revenue $$. Massive difference between SU and Providence

 

[RF2044]

Important callout, thanks.

I wonder where the differential is coming from at SU?

If I had to guess, it would be the different revenue share between the ACC [versus the BE for Providence].

 

[phil77]

IF Hodgson goes to Providence over SU there will be a multitude of factors at play beyond SU picking Gmac over him. Need to let it play out a bit.

Correct that is why I said people on the Hill will have tons of questions to answer not the people on this message board.

 

[Chip]

one caveat. yes its the same people donating to nil or revenue sharing. but i dont know about other schools but su didnt get anywhere near $20m in donations for rev sharing. so some $$$ does have to be budgeted by su.

And what happens with schools (like our friends in New Jersey) that are publicly in a huge deficit. How do they even pay kids at all from the revenue share side.

It would be nice if the NIL side was truly audited for the deals they put through, but I can't imagine they will be. Feels like a rubber stamp for those with big enough checkbooks.

 

[rrlbees]

Important callout, thanks.

I wonder where the differential is coming from at SU?

dont know where in the budget it come but as others have already said much of it from acc payouts.

 

[VikesCuse84]

IF Hodgson goes to Providence over SU there will be a multitude of factors at play beyond SU picking Gmac over him. Need to let it play out a bit.

Trying to keep up, so is the search really just down to Hodgson and GMac?

 

[JeremyCuse]

Correct that is why I said people on the Hill will have tons of questions to answer not the people on this message board.

Right but I am just saying it's not improbable that SU could choose Hodgson and he still ends up at Providence. Even though I think SU would be a clear choice there some rumblings out there about finances etc.

 

[JeremyCuse]

Trying to keep up, so is the search really just down to Hodgson and GMac?

Blair injects an unknown dynamic into the search. I would suspect a potential mystery candidate and Hop is still in play though I think clearly on the periphery.

 

[richmondcuse03]

dont know where in the budget it come but as others have already said much of it from acc payouts.

they've been very tight lipped on the budget hit but in theory, it's probably close to the $20M. Most folks don't want to fund revenue sharing or NIl. They can try to claim donations went up after they launched that campaign but it's probably hard to earmark things.

The reality is they need to fund it out of revenue and conference payouts. Fans don't care that we have to pay players and that the players have a scholarship cost associated with them.

 

[rrlbees]

And what happens with schools (like our friends in New Jersey) that are publicly in a huge deficit. How do they even pay kids at all from the revenue share side.

It would be nice if the NIL side was truly audited for the deals they put through, but I can't imagine they will be. Feels like a rubber stamp for those with big enough checkbooks.

you're gonna ask me a rutgers question? lol.

 

[Cuseball]

What and why would JB push SH? Just idiotic.

He’s not and this is just rumor mongering. Another reason to blame JB for something

 

[richmondcuse03]

And what happens with schools (like our friends in New Jersey) that are publicly in a huge deficit. How do they even pay kids at all from the revenue share side.

It would be nice if the NIL side was truly audited for the deals they put through, but I can't imagine they will be. Feels like a rubber stamp for those with big enough checkbooks.

They keep running deficits and get subsidized by the state.

In our case, we're getting "subsidized" by the general fund now but that's all dependent on how things are accounted for with scholarships, shared expenses, etc. There are smarter finances folks on here than me but you can make the accounting look good or bad depending on your goals.

 

[phil77]

Right but I am just saying it's not improbable that SU could choose Hodgson and he still ends up at Providence. Even though I think SU would be a clear choice there some rumblings out there about finances etc.

I dont think there is a possible way that if BH is our 1st choice, he ends up at Providence. He has been after this job for 2 years. I can be wrong of course but that makes zero logical sense. At worst this Providence chatter is to make sure he gets what he wants or close to it.

 

[Dmcnabbrules]

Blair injects an unknown dynamic into the search. I would suspect a potential mystery candidate and Hop is still in play though I think clearly on the periphery.

Vanderbilt coach?