Coach Search Options after Autry

[Briancuse]

They have 20 mill in revenue sharing they can use as much of that as they want for BB. Then include any donor/fan support $.

I thought lally was going to pony up.

 

[hoopsupstate]

The worst thing happened, Gmac won, BH won. Now guys on bracket show saying USF most dangerous 11 seed and that they will beat Louisville and blah blah. So it’s just gas on the fire for his agent. And Gerry becomes a more serious contender

Maybe it’s time SU leaks another candidate.

 

[Fly Rodder]

Good listen.

Let's go Mike!

 

[Domedog84]

Upon further analysis… everybody is right in some way and I love all of you !!

But for real, anybody besides like JW, Lally and most importantly BH are completely guessing on the situation. No matter how connected they are.

Him having sick family members here might be a bigger deal than slight differences in NIL. We’ll see.

Also, Syracuse has a higher ceiling as well.

Was that analysis per chance a long post knocking "insiders" that you deleted/was deleted by mods?

 

[35kcuse]

It’ll be interesting to see what happens.

But Klines GF accusing them of planning this for over a year is telling. Providence AD holding a press conference today to push out propaganda (nothing wrong with this from him) is telling. Hodgson having sick family members here is telling. Lally being in on it all is telling. Blair being ok with not having full control is telling.

Just seems like a lot of signs compared to smoke that hey providence has more NIL. Albeit a big chunk of the equation is that part of it but it feels like a stack of circumstantial evidence is on Cuse side.

 

[Cusefan0307]

 

[RyanCuse44]

You like stirring the pot man. That’s all.

If his posts bother you that much put him on ignore. There are a BUNCH of us on here who enjoy his inside info.

 

[granthath9]

Providence fans walking back their over stated claims about Hodgson from this weekend should be telling you all something.

 

[Cuse1055]

Good listen.

Idc who our coach is, THIS RIGHT HERE is why Syracuse basketball will be back sooner rather than later. Everyone knows how important it is and will do what it takes to get back on track.

 

[phil77]

They have also created a problem if we fail on Hodgson. Now that he has made the tournament and won the conference regular season title as well as the conference tournament title, the online support for him has swung so much that if we don't land him for whatever reason, legitimate or not it will be deemed as embarrassing no matter how we have to pivot. It is almost like we have backed ourselves into this corner, and the BH team knows it, probably. Which is why I think it will get done

 

[sufan59]

The worst thing happened, Gmac won, BH won. Now guys on bracket show saying USF most dangerous 11 seed and that they will beat Louisville and blah blah. So it’s just gas on the fire for his agent. And Gerry becomes a more serious contender

You can argue the worst thing happened, but there remains one fact in this. Syracuse is messaging how they want to be filling up the dome 25,000 people atleast every night and competing for championships year after year. In a way, Hodgson is providing more evidence that an already big financial investment Syracuse is planning to do, deserves more investment on the front end before pen hits paper. Good thing for Syracuse is the Phil Martelli Jr buzz is starting to grow, fits the criteria Providence is looking for in a coach per there AD in a presser today (so does Hodgson) and Martelli may be seen ultimately as a better fit for Providence having worked his way up at Basketball first schools. Siena upsetting Duke would be a dramatic shift, but Siena winning the MAAC should be irrelevant here as long as you have a candidate like Hodgson or better on the table. GMAC should understand his positioning in this. GMAC is on the path to being 'THE' candidate down the line if it were to open again, if GMAC tells Cuse to kick rocks if that time down the line happens, then it sucks when GMAC really does have the resume and merit to get this job. Syracuse should've been preparing GMAC to take over for Boeheim the moment Hopkins left years ago, it's really not a mystery of who on the Boeheim staff had the highest ceiling as a Head Coach. But that didn't happen and now is not the time Syracuse should be prioritizing repaying GMAC for likely getting it wrong in 2023. IMO, unintentionally did GMAC favors in my opinion by not giving him the job in 2023 when Syracuse really had no idea what it was doing in this new era, GMAC is learning and he's working his way up and doing things in a more healthy way that will make him stronger when he gets to the big leagues. If Siena pulls off a miracle on Thursday, then Syracuse may have to pull a Seton Hall and hire their alum like when Shaheen rose up on one huge run in March. Nothing has changed, Hodgson who many here have been watching for over a year saying he is the real deal is showing that he is the real deal and may warrant more investment up front to get it done and have Syracuse in position to compete at the top of the league in the ACC in year 1 and hopefully in the top 25 nationally year 1.

 

[Briancuse]

They have also created a problem if we fail on Hodgson. Now that he has made the tournament and won the conference regular season title as well as the conference tournament title, the online support for him has swung so much that if we don't land him for whatever reason, legitimate or not it will be deemed as embarrassing no matter how we have to pivot. It is almost like we have backed ourselves into this corner, and the BH team knows it, probably. Which is why I think it will get done

Hodgson has us over a barrel if it's him and gmac and no other candidates. He knows or has heard a large portion of the fan base will riot if it's gmac. He's highly intelligent.

 

[granthath9]

Hodgson has us over a barrel if it's him and gmac and no other candidates. He knows or has heard a large portion of the fan base will riot if it's gmac. He's highly intelligent.

Hes going to get whatever he wants for this reason alone. Great analysis

 

[hoopsupstate]

Wildhack should be back in Syracuse and I’m sure he’s on top of things. Like Tirico said in his interview today, some of the things you read on social media have no facts to them. He was referring to the AD search. Probably the same thing with the coaches search. I wouldn’t be surprised that the Providence NIL amount is purposely inflated, with Lally’s knowledge, to get SU donators to up their numbers.

 

[nyucuse]

Hodgson has us over a barrel if it's him and gmac and no other candidates. He knows or has heard a large portion of the fan base will riot if it's gmac. He's highly intelligent.

I'd be shocked if there are not more candidates being seriously considered. And I think and hope they would slot in before GMac in the pecking order. Guessing some of these would be acceptable to the fan base.

 

[RedtheGOB]

Just a thought but we're in this weird territory where we have Syracuse insiders and decisionmakers that may be pushing Providence narratives to get Gmac in over BH too.

Narratives like BH is just passing through and comes with baggage and is already making demands and how do we know his allegiances when he's already talking about PC. Meanwhile Gmac doesn't come with alot of that, pretty much ask and he's here for alot less money.

I'm exaggerating of course but just saying we have to consider we have a divided fanbase between these 2 picks. It is cool that they both made the tourney though. Strange times.

 

[Briancuse]

I'd be shocked if there are not more candidates being seriously considered. And I think and hope they would slot in before GMac in the pecking order. Guessing some of these would be acceptable to the fan base.

Id be thrilled with a Calhoun or martelli, want no part of Holloway.

 

[RF2044]

Hodgson has us over a barrel if it's him and gmac and no other candidates. He knows or has heard a large portion of the fan base will riot if it's gmac. He's highly intelligent.

I don't even think it is THAT conniving. Let's be jhonest -- Hodgson isn't out of work. He doesn't need to leave money on the table just to take a bird in the hand.

He doesn't have to leave USF. He's built a good thing there, he had success, and if he stays he'll almost certainly have success.

Or he could go to Providence.

Or he could go to Syracuse.

Or he could cast his net more widely, and see if any other teams come calling.

When you have options, you don't necessarily have to take the offer on the table. You can negotiate. And that's what his representation is doing.

You can leverage one offer against another, in search of more preferential compensation or better terms. That's the advantage of not being desperate, you have options.

And of course, he's going to look for more resources. Why wouldn't he?

 

[35kcuse]

I'd be shocked if there are not more candidates being seriously considered. And I think and hope they would slot in before GMac in the pecking order. Guessing some of these would be acceptable to the fan base.

I would say more being considered for sure, as with any search. But in terms of actively pursuing, I don’t think the list is long.

 

[rrlbees]

What the heck are you talking about?

Edited what post?

um, we can see a posts history. you had 5 versions to soften a couple things you were wrong on.

 

[FrancoPizza]

Correction: he asked for a number that was agreed to in priniciple prior, and now his agent is asking for a higher number using the leverage of a second offer from another school. That's what happens when you have options -- smart negotiations.

Jesse Edwards, the Sequel. Let's hope we've learned from the first movie.

 

[Cusefan0307]

I'd be shocked if there are not more candidates being seriously considered. And I think and hope they would slot in before GMac in the pecking order. Guessing some of these would be acceptable to the fan base.

I don't know. Personally if it's not Hodgson, I think it's a big step down to anyone else from a potential standpoint this cycle.

 

[granthath9]

Id be thrilled with a Calhoun or martelli, want no part of Holloway.

It would be Martelli out of these two. Calhoun is 100% going to Cincinnati

 

[hoopsupstate]

I don't even think it is THAT conniving. Let's be jhonest -- Hodgson isn't out of work. He doesn't need to leave money on the table just to take a bird in the hand.

He doesn't have to leave USF. He's built a good thing there, he had success, and if he stays he'll almost certainly have success.

Or he could go to Providence.

Or he could go to Syracuse.

Or he could cast his net more widely, and see if any other teams come calling.

When you have options, you don't necessarily have to take the offer on the table. You can negotiate. And that's what his representation is doing.

You can leverage one offer against another, in search of more preferential compensation or better terms. That's the advantage of not being desperate, you have options.

And of course, he's going to look for more resources. Why wouldn't he?

You also have to be careful you don’t play your cards and wait too long. If Hodgson knows anything about Syracuse, they won’t be backed into a corner. They will be happy to look elsewhere, especially if they can save a few bucks.

 

[Cuse1055]