Coach Search Options after Autry

[IthacaMatt]

Knoxville is a yes.

I loved his work on Jackass.

 

[Fly Rodder]

Frankly, considering the impoverished state of SU sports and how none of it matters, the AD should just recruit a bunch of low D1 or D2 athletes, hire some no name assistant golf coach part time, then take the $40m or whatever they're spending on coaching, assistants, buildings, etc. and hold a lottery during each game to give it out to people who buy the tickets. Figure 20 home basketball games plus 5-6 football games, they could give out like $500k to one lucky winner each game and split another mil up into smaller prizes. Attendance would soar.

 

[AZOrange]

Is Travis Steele (Miami Ohio) related to former Cuse alum Lexington Steele? Could be a real solid in, if we dont blow it...

lol made my day

 

[djorange1989]

So I’m an hour late?

20 minutes

 

[2B20Again]

Does anyone have an idea to what extent he's meddling?

I doubt he is doing anything. No conspiracy with JB here. This is all way above his pay grade. Unless he’s is asked something specific, he’s mostly a fundraiser now a days.

 

[NineOneSeven]

Because they are SO DAMN CHEAP.
That's the reason.

Did you know that teaching a freshman 3 credit course that meets 3 times a week for a semester only pays $3,500 to an Adjunct Professor?
That's 45 hours of class time, plus preparing lectures, grading papers, administrative work, and office hours for students.

If you figure all of that time adds up to 150 hours a semester, that means they are paying an Adjunct Professor $23.33/hour.

This is why their academic ranking keeps dropping. They can't afford many good professors, because they have too many administrators on big bucks. So, they fill out their ranks with very poorly paid people to teach the masses of undergrads.

And tuition is what now, over $60k? What a joke.

 

[chadvader]

Is Travis Steele (Miami Ohio) related to former Cuse alum Lexington Steele? Could be a real solid in, if we dont blow it...

Do you think Lex donates to NIL?

 

[IthacaMatt]

That’s at least 45 pages ago

Well, Autry is entitled to his opinion, and needs to save face to ever get another job.

But there is no sugar coating it. He was awful, he couldn't control a locker room, and his teams routinely quit on him all three seasons he was in charge.

 

[Biaxtar]

And tuition is what now, over $60k? What a joke.

oh its more than 60K when its all said and done

 

[phil77]

so look like there is a AD presser tomorrow, and still no coach.

That is a small piece of good news

 

[IthacaMatt]

I doubt he is doing anything. No conspiracy with JB here. This is all way above his pay grade. Unless he’s is asked something specific, he’s mostly a fundraiser now a days.

So what's he doing on TV talking about the SU job all the time, then?

 

[NineOneSeven]

oh its more than 60K when its all said and done

Yeah w everything sure it’s a lot more.

Again… ridiculous.

 

[Nicknack]

so look like there is a AD presser tomorrow, and still no coach.

Has this been announced or published somewhere? I haven't seen anything.

 

[Tango32]

Do you think Lex donates to NIL?

Probably, if you're familiar with his work you know the man is a really big giver

 

[Brooky03]

It shouldn't eliminate hop or gmac but with what has gone on the past 10 years it should be noted. Obviously hart gets a pass. Don't know enough about his resume tbh.

This entire debate is mildly amusing for me because I kind of have no dog in the fight, as in I’m fine with BH, Gerry, or even Hop (idk anything about Hart’s coaching either).

I’m generally opposed to the idea of change is better because different is better. But that comes down to what reasons you identify for the downfall. I think it was 90% not getting the talent we used to have. Unlike others, I don’t think we were playing a style that doesn’t work anymore (it is/was a style close to what the Knicks run, who is the only other basketball team I routinely watch), so it’s not like that coaching philosophy has been phased out of basketball altogether. I think Red failed because Red isn’t a Head Coach, not because he was a continuation of JB. So, with that in mind, I’m not inclined to put ‘legacy hire’ in the cons column.

But, we need more NIL interest and a legitimate recruiter. If there is a clear front runner there, that should weigh heavily. Hodgson seems like he might be the best NIL option, but I haven’t read the last hundred posts in this thread. His coaching strategy seems fun. Gerry is an NIL question mark. Does keeping it in the family lockdown some donors? Enough to matter? I have no idea. Hop is a salesman through and through and was considered one of the best recruiters in the sport for a bit. I’m confident Hop could court talent and I’d bet he could court donors. Of course, the failures at Washington are a concern.

 

[AZOrange]

That is a small piece of good news

Yeah we can’t hire a coach if they are in the tourney…

 

[IthacaMatt]

And tuition is what now, over $60k? What a joke.

When I was at Cornell, I really disliked how many teaching assistants were other undergrads who got to grade my work for portions of a course.

But I can honestly say that most of those undergrad Cornell kids were smarter than the people they are able to hire at SU to take Adjunct positions for so little money. I believe OCC even pays more than that for Adjunct staff.

 

[swish7]

Lets be real, has Syracuse really ever been a "great" job?

We got lucky and hired a HOF coach who never wanted to leave which was amazing.

But generally speaking, not many folks want to uproot their lives, to go work a mid sized private university in upstate NY where it snows a lot.

I disagree.

At this level where millions are the baseline salary & stability depends on performance I doubt the weather is a factor.

 

[Briancuse]

This entire debate is mildly amusing for me because I kind of have no dog in the fight, as in I’m fine with BH, Gerry, or even Hop (idk anything about Hart’s coaching either).

I’m generally opposed to the idea of change is better because different is better. But that comes down to what reasons you identify for the downfall. I think it was 90% not getting the talent we used to have. Unlike others, I don’t think we were playing a style that doesn’t work anymore (it is/was a style close to what the Knicks run, who is the only other basketball team I routinely watch), so it’s not like that coaching philosophy has been phased out of basketball altogether. I think Red failed because Red isn’t a Head Coach, not because he was a continuation of JB. So, with that in mind, I’m not inclined to put ‘legacy hire’ in the cons column.

But, we need more NIL interest and a legitimate recruiter. If there is a clear front runner there, that should weigh heavily. Hodgson seems like he might be the best NIL option, but I haven’t read the last hundred posts in this thread. His coaching strategy seems fun. Gerry is an NIL question mark. Does keeping it in the family lockdown some donors? Enough to matter? I have no idea. Hop is a salesman through and through and was considered one of the best recruiters in the sport for a bit. I’m confident Hop could court talent and I’d bet he could court donors. Of course, the failures at Washington are a concern.

My problem is if gmac or hop was the best candidate out there I'd hire them despite wanting to.go outside the program. Neither one is hop failed at wash. Gmac has had 2 good years. If his name was gerry Smith with the same resume he wouldn't even be on the radar.

 

[qdawgg]

When I was at Cornell, I really disliked how many teaching assistants were other undergrads who got to grade my work for portions of a course.

But I can honestly say that most of those undergrad Cornell kids were smarter than the people they are able to hire at SU to take Adjunct positions for so little money. I believe OCC even pays more than that for Adjunct staff.

I adjunct for extra money and I’m definitely the smartest one in any room I’m in……

 

[Hawknate144]

As a current student, yeah I can complain a lot about the administrative bloat, it is insane.

I am lucky to have had very few Adjunct classes, but it was very clear who was one when I had them.

 

[Cusefan0307]

This entire debate is mildly amusing for me because I kind of have no dog in the fight, as in I’m fine with BH, Gerry, or even Hop (idk anything about Hart’s coaching either).

I’m generally opposed to the idea of change is better because different is better. But that comes down to what reasons you identify for the downfall. I think it was 90% not getting the talent we used to have. Unlike others, I don’t think we were playing a style that doesn’t work anymore (it is/was a style close to what the Knicks run, who is the only other basketball team I routinely watch), so it’s not like that coaching philosophy has been phased out of basketball altogether. I think Red failed because Red isn’t a Head Coach, not because he was a continuation of JB. So, with that in mind, I’m not inclined to put ‘legacy hire’ in the cons column.

But, we need more NIL interest and a legitimate recruiter. If there is a clear front runner there, that should weigh heavily. Hodgson seems like he might be the best NIL option, but I haven’t read the last hundred posts in this thread. His coaching strategy seems fun. Gerry is an NIL question mark. Does keeping it in the family lockdown some donors? Enough to matter? I have no idea. Hop is a salesman through and through and was considered one of the best recruiters in the sport for a bit. I’m confident Hop could court talent and I’d bet he could court donors. Of course, the failures at Washington are a concern.

If you don’t watch much basketball outside of two teams how would you have any idea what offenses work. The Knicks rely on a ton of Brunson mid range jumpers. It works for him. It doesn’t really work for a lot of teams. We should not be focusing on that. It’s meathead basketball and that’s all Syracuse knows.

 

[granthath9]

Any good rumors I missed today? I personally haven’t heard much besides our NIL funding played a factor in yesterday debacle.

 

[kingtidge]

Loyalty is a virtue that can be a fault. Though, as faults go, it’s one of the better ones to have.

Sometimes.

Also sometimes...

 

[pearl31]

That is a small piece of good news

yeah can at least step back from the ledge for a minute