Cornell Postgame

[AZOrange]

Yeah it's been a weird year in that regard. At his percentages you'd think we'd be trying to get him 6-8 good looks from 3 every game. And we just... don't, really.

Watch his rotations and movement on offense and you will answer your own question. He’s literally standing and when he does catch it is not n a position to shoot

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Watch his rotations and movement on offense and you will answer your own question. He’s literally standing and when he does catch it is not n a position to shoot

Well that's not good.

 

[sugrad68]

He did, and then went 3-17 and awful defense against Cornell.

Trevor Cooney was awful probably half of his games on offense, so is JJ. Cooney played some great defense, JJ plays wretched defense.

I'd bet 99 out of 100 people here would say JJ is the better player, personally I don't think he touches Cooney's jock.

All that said, Trevor Cooney is probably the baseline for an accept SG for us.

JJ had a bad game, a terrible game. 1 out of 6. In the other 5 games he was good to exceptional on the offensive end of the court. JJ is not the problem on this team.

 

[two3zone]

JJ had a bad game, a terrible game. 1 out of 6. In the other 5 games he was good to exceptional on the offensive end of the court. JJ is not the problem on this team.

Good to exceptional on the offensive end and ignoring his defense doesn't make him a good player.

I stand by everything I said. He isn't the problem now, wasn't last year, wasn't at ND. Winning teams don't play guys like him this much.

 

[Niastri]

Audacity.
It's what you need as a young gun. This kid is awesome and works hard for it. Moore of him.

Moore is one of the players on the team that should always shoot the three of he's genuinely open.

It was a very smart play.

Moore initially pulled it back because he saw he didn't have numbers, Cornell had done a good job of packing the paint in transition to prevent a layup. Moore was looking around for a point to start the half court offense, and realized Cornell had completely ignored him.

Wide open three for a guy recruited to be a three point shooter? Yes, please!

 

[two3zone]

Audacity.
It's what you need as a young gun. This kid is awesome and works hard for it. Moore of him.

Someone mentioned in the game thread about him following up a miss with an easy layup. Kid knows the game.

 

[two3zone]

Moore is one of the players on the team that should always shoot the three of he's genuinely open.

It was a very smart play.

Moore initially pulled it back because he saw he didn't have numbers, Cornell had done a good job of packing the paint in transition to prevent a layup. Moore was looking around for a point to start the half court offense, and realized Cornell had completely ignored him.

Wide open three for a guy recruited to be a three point shooter? Yes, please!

It's refreshing to see someone come in as advertised. Donnie is so close to taking over this team, I can see it.

 

[Niastri]

Davis has been pretty good. He has the highest offensive rating on the team of all the regulars. He’s only taken 6 3’s and is shooting 53% from the floor with good rebounding and solid defense. It’s his FT shooting that has been an issue, but you can say the same thing about JJ and Lampkin too. Freeman on the other hand has taken 16 3’s.

Freeman is a guy who was ranked top10 in his class precisely because he can do everything on offense. His ranking skyrocketed after he started consistently knocking down the three.

He isn't shooting well on threes, yes. But he's only shooting 1.33 per half. You have to let him take that shot if he's wide open.

Freeman becoming a 35% shooter from 3 is what makes us a good to great team later in the year.

He got 23 and 12 last night, and did a splendid job of rehashing every kind of sports cliche during the post game interview.

Freeman isn't the problem.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Freeman is a guy who was ranked top10 in his class precisely because he can do everything on offense. His ranking skyrocketed after he started consistently knocking down the three.

He isn't shooting well on threes, yes. But he's only shooting 1.33 per half. You have to let him take that shot if he's wide open.

Freeman becoming a 35% shooter from 3 is what makes us a good to great team later in the year.

He got 23 and 12 last night, and did a splendid job of rehashing every kind of sports cliche during the post game interview.

Freeman isn't the problem.

I didn’t say he was a problem, but he shouldn’t be taking 3’s. He’s shooting 3-16 there.

 

[RyanCuse44]

He’s going to make the change don’t worry. This game proved that Elijah can play and he needed this game to show Red he can handle some tense situational ball too. That 3 he made on the break after the block was courageous lol but he made it. Thats big time

I don't know about you and others, but I was like No, No, No when he took the shot but relieved when he made it. It was just his night and hopefully many more of those to come.

 

[two3zone]

I don't know about you and others, but I was like No, No, No when he took the shot but relieved when he made it. It was just his night and hopefully many more of those to come.

I was the opposite actually, i like players like Moore who really don't care or think when they're playing and it's natural. He'll frustrate probably down the line a bit but this kid is a walking bucket. I just trust players like that so much more.

He is the real deal on the offensive end. He comes into the game and it doesn't matter who's on the court with him, he commands the ball and makes good things happen around him. He reminds me of Battle a lot but with less control but a better shooter. He's going to be good.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

I was the opposite actually, i like players like Moore who really don't care or think when they're playing and it's natural. He'll frustrate probably down the line a bit but this kid is a walking bucket. I just trust players like that so much more.

He is the real deal on the offensive end. He comes into the game and it doesn't matter who's on the court with him, he commands the ball and makes good things happen around him. He reminds me of Battle a lot but with less control but a better shooter. He's going to be good.

Yeah, even though he's shown he can hit them, he takes a few too many mid range jumpers for my liking.

But, he is making some, so... if that's part of The Choppa Moore Experience, I embrace it for everything it is and is not.

 

[STEVEHOLT]

Freeman is a guy who was ranked top10 in his class precisely because he can do everything on offense. His ranking skyrocketed after he started consistently knocking down the three.

He isn't shooting well on threes, yes. But he's only shooting 1.33 per half. You have to let him take that shot if he's wide open.

Freeman becoming a 35% shooter from 3 is what makes us a good to great team later in the year.

He got 23 and 12 last night, and did a splendid job of rehashing every kind of sports cliche during the post game interview.

Freeman isn't the problem.

Great ? I can see developing into a good team. I don’t see how with this coaching and mix of talent we could reach greatness

 

[STEVEHOLT]

I think Petr should play more. He's a battler underneath and has some good inside moves around the basket.

He’s the kind of dude that would kill us if he were on the other team and we’d be hating on him to a skibbidy level. Bout time we had 1 of those dudes

 

[23Zone]

I disagree with him not being a good finisher. He has been getting to the rim at will and finishing well so far this year. He just looked a little quick last night and was drifting on his pull-ups. Ironically his first 6 FTs looked good and went in. Little to no hitch this game

Here is the thing about JJ which drives me absolutely nuts. It is hideous when he drives to the left and throws it up with his right. The physics just don't work. The angle is wrong. That is why half the time the ball just spins out. It's stupid. At this level you have to be able to finish with your left. A la Devo

 

[atlanticuse]

Statistically speaking, our entire team is awful. We couldn’t defend the San Jose St volleyball team.

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[atlanticuse]

Freeman is a guy who was ranked top10 in his class precisely because he can do everything on offense. His ranking skyrocketed after he started consistently knocking down the three.

He isn't shooting well on threes, yes. But he's only shooting 1.33 per half. You have to let him take that shot if he's wide open.

Freeman becoming a 35% shooter from 3 is what makes us a good to great team later in the year.

He got 23 and 12 last night, and did a splendid job of rehashing every kind of sports cliche during the post game interview.

Freeman isn't the problem.

If we run the whole offense through Donnie he’ll be doubled or tripled.
Then the rest of the team has to be able to score. Good teams will dare us to do it.

And the first half of yesterday shows no one can score.
Against Tenn or UNC or Pittsburgh … a 1-15 run will bury us.

We saw that last year. Why didn’t we make the Tournament? One reason was the blowouts.
Not the 20 (asterisk) wins.

 

[Cuse99&01]

Statistically speaking, our entire team is awful. We couldn’t defend the San Jose St volleyball team.

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Well they could just simply forfeit against the San Jose St volleyball team…..seems like a common trend lately.

 

[kcsu]

Thank God we don't have Judah taking Carlos minutes away this year.

 

[McCuse]

He’s the kind of dude that would kill us if he were on the other team and we’d be hating on him to a skibbidy level. Bout time we had 1 of those dudes

He's got the fundamentals, old school box out for rebounds and solid picks. Lucky to have him.

 

[Niastri]

If we run the whole offense through Donnie he’ll be doubled or tripled.
Then the rest of the team has to be able to score. Good teams will dare us to do it.

And the first half of yesterday shows no one can score.
Against Tenn or UNC or Pittsburgh … a 1-15 run will bury us.

We saw that last year. Why didn’t we make the Tournament? One reason was the blowouts.
Not the 20 (asterisk) wins.

Nobody said anything about the offense running through Freeman. I certainly didn't.

I think the Lampkin to Starling play we ran a lot against Texas Tech was an effective play. It has the benefit of potentially getting wide open threes for Bell, Moore or Freeman.

I think our best offensive lineup is Moore, Starling, Bell, Freeman and Lampkin.

Four shooters, including one who has been proven to be elite in the past. Three guys who can go to the basket and finish. Two guys who can post up, and pass out of the double team. This offensive lineup has the potential to be really good.

Defense will be a work in progress forever, but Freeman and Moore at least present some upside on the defensive front. Freeman's already gotten a lot better on defense, and has gone from "lost out there" to "could be better."

This also would be a decent rebounding team, as Freeman and Lampkin are our best rebounders, and Bell is showing improvement there, even if he's unlikely to ever be a good rebounder.

The reserves are what they are. They get minutes when they can help, or when they absolutely have to be out there.

We talked a lot about how deep this team was all summer long, but really we aren't that good, so we need to play the guys who are good.

No better time to start doing that then when we are facing a blowout at Tennessee. Putting guys out there who have consistently proven to be overmatched is a recipe for a big loss.

 

[atlanticuse]

Nobody said anything about the offense running through Freeman. I certainly didn't.

I think the Lampkin to Starling play we ran a lot against Texas Tech was an effective play. It has the benefit of potentially getting wide open threes for Bell, Moore or Freeman.

I think our best offensive lineup is Moore, Starling, Bell, Freeman and Lampkin.

Four shooters, including one who has been proven to be elite in the past. Three guys who can go to the basket and finish. Two guys who can post up, and pass out of the double team. This offensive lineup has the potential to be really good.

Defense will be a work in progress forever, but Freeman and Moore at least present some upside on the defensive front. Freeman's already gotten a lot better on defense, and has gone from "lost out there" to "could be better."

This also would be a decent rebounding team, as Freeman and Lampkin are our best rebounders, and Bell is showing improvement there, even if he's unlikely to ever be a good rebounder.

The reserves are what they are. They get minutes when they can help, or when they absolutely have to be out there.

We talked a lot about how deep this team was all summer long, but really we aren't that good, so we need to play the guys who are good.

No better time to start doing that then when we are facing a blowout at Tennessee. Putting guys out there who have consistently proven to be overmatched is a recipe for a big loss.

I really like this idea.
Not sure using a game vs UTK like a scrimmage will sit well, but it’s in Knoxville…
(I’ll be there)

 

[atlanticuse]

Carlos seems to be running away from the ball at times and going to the corner where he is useless because he can’t shoot threes. Contrary to what Red said in his presser Carlos is not getting guys open looks. And on defense, his defensive field goal percentage against on three-pointers must be sky high. Guys are just shooting over him with ease.

Is now the time to mention the failed pass to Bunch at the end of the game?
Regardless of who phoned it in, they’re way out of sync. Coaching…

 

[two3zone]

Here is the thing about JJ which drives me absolutely nuts. It is hideous when he drives to the left and throws it up with his right. The physics just don't work. The angle is wrong. That is why half the time the ball just spins out. It's stupid. At this level you have to be able to finish with your left. A la Devo

Everything he does is so mechanical.

 

[Jake]

Thank God we don't have Judah taking Carlos minutes away this year.

Eh. I hear ya. But Judah was a high floor/low ceiling player.