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Coyle leaving for Minnesota AD job

Orijinal said:
Some people will say I am saying this simply because he left like he did (and would be completely wrong):

I was never enthusiastic about the Coyle hire. He's about as polar opposite of Gross as you can be. And Gross took a lot of crap from you people on here, but he did nothing except elevate all sports to competitive levels never seen, save football (bringing it to competitive lows never seen). Branded Syracuse like it needed to be, pulled in more revenue streams for the AD in a small revenue conference, built facilities that made recruits take a second look, and STAYED!

Again, Coyle was the polar opposite. Maybe he made a great football hire. Awesome. (Actually would continue to prove the point that he's Gross' doppelganger). Coyle was aloof, stayed away from the limelight. Endlessly boring and bland when he actually did come out of hiding (and kept those moments as brief as possible). And fumbled the introduction of Dino Babers at one of the basketball games.

I want another Gross. I don't care what anyone says. I'll take him in a heartbeat. Someone who is clearly enthusiastic about being here and about promoting the vision for the athletic department whenever possible, and someone who is constantly making moves to bring that vision to fruition (even if not every move is a slam dunk). I'll take a hundred Daryl Grosses any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

And no, I'm not his wife ...
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Having interacted a little with both, I found TGD to be a fun guy and outgoing and would say whatever. Coyle was serious and inquisitive, a still waters run deep kind of guy. Seemed highly responsible and serious and demanded accountability. Sorry to see him go.
 
orangeinjersey said:
The guy took a job, and left less than year to take a job HE THOUGHT was better. It happens all the time (in business). Again, not sure why everyone is so fired up. He is FROM Minnesota and worked in the AD for 6 years previously. There is no such thing as loyalty in this day and age. Dont expect it.
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As many posters have already said, they don't begrudge the fact that he left for better pay or because of family, IT IS THE WAY HE LEFT and NOTIFIED PEOPLE WHO SHOULD KNOW...
 
rrlbees said:
He's been looking for a few months. Had nothing to do with money.
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Boeheim and Babers quotes seem to indicate that they were blindsided by Coyle's move.

Any inside info as to who in the department and/or administration knew that he was looking for a job?
 
orangeinjersey said:
The guy took a job, and left less than year to take a job HE THOUGHT was better. It happens all the time (in business). Again, not sure why everyone is so fired up. He is FROM Minnesota and worked in the AD for 6 years previously. There is no such thing as loyalty in this day and age. Dont expect it.
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Sure, and that's fine. He didn't have to be all douchy about it. Hate slinkers. Loathe them. And he's proven to be one.
 
Orijinal said:
And Gross took a lot of crap from you people on here, but he did nothing except elevate all sports to competitive levels never seen, save football (bringing it to competitive lows never seen). Branded Syracuse like it needed to be, pulled in more revenue streams for the AD in a small revenue conference, built facilities that made recruits take a second look, and STAYED!
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Aren't you one of the people "on here"?

And TGD had a lot more warts that you don't mention. He did great fro some of the smaller sports, but the department was a mess from financials to records.
 
Bayside44 said:
Having interacted a little with both, I found TGD to be a fun guy and outgoing and would say whatever. Coyle was serious and inquisitive, a still waters run deep kind of guy. Seemed highly responsible and serious and demanded accountability. Sorry to see him go.
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This. I felt with Coyle there would be accountability. We wouldn't misspell a legends name on a jersey retirement ceremony. Gross was a wild card, and just said what made sense and created excitement in the moment. He made good Olympic sport hires, cause he spent money on them. I would much rather the next guy be more Coyle then Gross. This stinks.
 
bcubs9497 said:
Sure, and that's fine. He didn't have to be all douchy about it. Hate slinkers. Loathe them. And he's proven to be one.
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We should all pitch in and send him boxes of these:

slinky-classic-toy.jpg
 
orangeinohio said:
From today, a little before noon:
http://www.startribune.com/gophers-ad-search-narrowed-to-final-four-sources-say/378844131/

The University of Minnesota’s search for a new athletic director appears to be down to four candidates — interim AD Beth Goetz, Northern Illinois AD Sean Frazier, Penn State deputy AD Phil Esten and one undisclosed applicant — according to people familiar with the search.
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Lets go get Sean Frazier. We wanted him before. Maybe he's ready now.
 
rrlbees said:
Aren't you one of the people "on here"?

And TGD had a lot more warts that you don't mention. He did great fro some of the smaller sports, but the department was a mess from financials to records.
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You're right. Too accusatory there. Should read: "from people on here." Changed
 
chakka3421 said:
Ok let's get a few facts straight here.

Babers makes $2.4 million plus incentives (except CL argues he's making $2.5) has a 6 year contract with a possible 5 year extension and he doesn't want to leave getting him to about age 65. When you get a call from Jim Brown & Floyd Little before you take the job and are in awe after the call, you know you came to the right school with the right tradition. It's Babers right to leave whenever he wants but those in the know state he doesn't and wants to stay but that depends if he can win like all coaches must do. Plus he just bought a very expensive house in Dewitt I believe. I don't think a new AD is going to disrupt anything and if anything he or she is going to say - what do you need Coach for me to help you to win!

I would take the job but it would be a pay cut for me - but I would "sacrifice" ;) if I had to.
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And it was Chancellor Sveyrud who hired Babers - Coyle made the recommendation but the Chancellor made the hire and he's still here.
 
orangeinjersey said:
I get emails that execs leave my firm all the time, i dont deal with these people on a day to day basis, What do i care they are leaving, it doesnt affect my day to day duties. Do the players really interact with the AD on a day to day basis? If the answer is yes, then I am shocked. If the answer is no, then business as usual. It doesnt affect you. I dont get all the hate on the guy for taking a new job. Yeah it sucks, SU has to hire another guy, but life goes on.
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do you think the boss who hired that exec is happy that the guy he just hired...quit??

I don't think so.

and as the AD of my school...that spineless mothaflucker works for 'me'...and now all that work and $$ spent to hire his lame arse is out the Fn window as we have to do this all over again.

him.
 
rrlbees said:
Aren't you one of the people "on here"?

And TGD had a lot more warts that you don't mention. He did great fro some of the smaller sports, but the department was a mess from financials to records.
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I actually asked Gross once how come he didn't have a CPA controller type on staff. He laughed and said not really needed in an Athletic Department. Maybe that is true but if it's one of my weaknesses you always hire to your weakness.
 
orangeinjersey said:
In this day and age, there is no way to handle it well. There's an old cliche, "its not personal, it's business". A lot of folks on this board take everything so personal. He took a job, and stayed for almost a year. Decided he could do better. For whatever reason, pay, hated the area, hated the people he was working with etc. I dont get why this board gets so emotional about people leaving for what they perceive to be greener pastures. I guarantee you EVERYONE in this board would leave their current job for a competitor if they got a 20% plus raise. Every single one.
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Depends.

Location would matter.

I wouldn't go just anywhere for that.
 
As I planted 600' of potato's today I kept looking over my shoulder and up into the sky to see if it was falling today. Nope all I saw was possibly the best spring day of this year.

If you look at Coyle's resume the guy is a gypsy as far as jobs goes. He never stays long, so as long as he doesn't want to be here,then this is the best to happen to Syracuse and to it's fans.
 
Orijinal said:
Some people will say I am saying this simply because he left like he did (and would be completely wrong):

I was never enthusiastic about the Coyle hire. He's about as polar opposite of Gross as you can be. And Gross took a lot of crap from people on here, but he did nothing except elevate all sports to competitive levels never seen, save football (bringing it to competitive lows never seen). Branded Syracuse like it needed to be, pulled in more revenue streams for the AD in a small revenue conference, built facilities that made recruits take a second look, and STAYED!

Again, Coyle was the polar opposite. Maybe he made a great football hire. Awesome. (Actually would continue to prove the point that he's Gross' doppelganger). Coyle was aloof, stayed away from the limelight. Endlessly boring and bland when he actually did come out of hiding (and kept those moments as brief as possible). And fumbled the introduction of Dino Babers at one of the basketball games.

I want another Gross. I don't care what anyone says. I'll take him in a heartbeat. Someone who is clearly enthusiastic about being here and about promoting the vision for the athletic department whenever possible, and someone who is constantly making moves to bring that vision to fruition (even if not every move is a slam dunk). I'll take a hundred Daryl Grosses any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

And no, I'm not his wife ...
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You make a lot of good points. I agree that Gross did a lot of good upgrading our non-revenue sports. Those teams have been kicking A$$.

I don't really hold the football hires against Gross. He was forced to replace Coach P by his higher-ups, at a time when it was really too late to make a hire like that without a good search. He trusted a recommendation from someone he respected (who was successful beyond our wildest dreams), and it didn't work out for us. He hired Marrone, which proved to be a good hire. When Marrone left, he hired from within, which was logical given the program was headed the right direction. Bad luck.

I thought Gross was a lot of hat, and not so much in the cattle department. But as you said, he did a good job everywhere else within the program.
 
KaiserUEO said:
do you think the boss who hired that exec is happy that the guy he just hired...quit??

I don't think so.

and as the AD of my school...that spineless mothaflucker works for 'me'...and now all that work and $$ spent to hire his lame arse is out the Fn window as we have to do this all over again.

him.
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Exactly.
 
retro44 said:
As I planted 600' of potato's today I kept looking over my shoulder and up into the sky to see if it was falling today. Nope all I saw was possibly the best spring day of this year. If you look at Coyle's resume the guy is a gypsy as far as jobs goes. He never stays long, so as long as he doesn't want to be here,then this is the best to happen to Syracuse and to it's fans.
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He's clearly a job hopper.

I was concerned from the get go that he seemed to be a west/Midwest guy as well.

Minnesota won't be his last job.
 
cuseguy said:
He's clearly a job hopper.

I was concerned from the get go that he seemed to be a west/Midwest guy as well.

Minnesota won't be his last job.
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I believe his dream job is Kentucky.
 

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