DB Ja'Had Carter / Portal from Ohio State to NC State
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Also, if he can’t start at Ohio State, he’s not making it in the NFL anyway. No amount of playing time at SU is going to change that.
It’s never been about the education unfortunately.
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Wasn’t there an article that Fran sees Deuce as an NFL safety?
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Joe Burrow disagrees.
and we don't know if it was a "small" pay day or legit cash. We also don't know what his NFL future was. We would all take the cash.
Yeah I think Fran said the move was best for the longevity of his career. Viewing it from a purely fan perspective though, Duce is a little small and a tad slow in that deep safety position. That would fit Carter's game much better, and he had a hell of a 2022 season here in a similar type of role. Duce's best moments of his career have been playing outside corner, he got picked apart in the slot at LSU last year (at least when I watched). Corner is also IMO the weakest unit on our team, and Duce could really help that unit, so that's why bringing Carter back would make sense to me. But like I said the coaches see these guys every day and know far more than I know, I am merely sharing my thoughts.
I agree that scouts will use that as a knock against Jahad, but if he produces at his next stop then scouts won't ignore that tape.
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I agree unless Ja’had is completely shot from injuries he almost certainly would be better at the position.
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Like Duce I thought he punched above his weight getting a scholarship from a program like that that gets tons of 4 and 5 star guys. Think we have the right one coming back of the two. Carter won't slip far though he's from Virginia and will definitely end up at an ACC school and be a starter. Probably wont be us but if he comes back and doesn't win a starting job so what that means we have better options. Its a perfectly fine use of a scholarship if Fran thinks so.
He's a DB coach I don't think he'll have many recruiting misses in terms of portal secondary players.
He's a DB coach I don't think he'll have many recruiting misses in terms of portal secondary players.
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He was one of the better players in a very good Syracuse secondary. He was arguably the best safety in the portal last year. He may not be a superstar but he should be very solid. He has NFL potential and past production numbers despite some injury history
I don’t remember what his injuries were at SU but last spring at OSU spring he got injured and was in a boot. The fact that some 4 and 5 star players at OSU took advantage of a lot of reps in the spring and held into their spots is not really surprising.
I like our current projected starters but we need depth. Our safety depth and talent is definitely not so good that we shouldn’t pursue this. Would Carter win a starting roll I’m not sure. But what are the chances we have no injuries while playing 5 DB’s? He would certainly get a lot of run.
He is a great high character kid and a good leader. He has to be hungry after this past season. If he wants back at SU I’d certainly take him. It’s a no brainer to me.
I don’t remember what his injuries were at SU but last spring at OSU spring he got injured and was in a boot. The fact that some 4 and 5 star players at OSU took advantage of a lot of reps in the spring and held into their spots is not really surprising.
I like our current projected starters but we need depth. Our safety depth and talent is definitely not so good that we shouldn’t pursue this. Would Carter win a starting roll I’m not sure. But what are the chances we have no injuries while playing 5 DB’s? He would certainly get a lot of run.
He is a great high character kid and a good leader. He has to be hungry after this past season. If he wants back at SU I’d certainly take him. It’s a no brainer to me.
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Not sure I saw it posted here, but Ja'Had has been visiting with NC State.
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Marvin Harrison Jr., in his post draft interview, responded to a question about why he was successful, said something along this line: "I went to the football facility every day to work on my game, and I never left".
Would luv to see his Ohio St academic record and talk with his professors.
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In today's world, academic records and performance are completely irrelevant in big time college athletics - unfortunately.
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NC State it is
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'Had is one of my personal favorites in recent memory. Hopefully the move works for him (except that one game obviously) and he gets drafted.Would have liked to have him back. Wonder if there was interest either way.
Ja'Had, good luck at NCST, except against us of course.
That said, we have the QB that saw him every day in practice last season. Would imagine if he got rave reviews Fran would have full court pressed. Either that or 'Had leaving Cuse was non football related and he simply didn't find returning desirable or perhaps he would've full court pressed Fran? For whatever reason it wasn't meant to be sadly.
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This isn’t going to be the Syracuse he left
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I thought he was one of the most improved players in the entire ACC 2 years ago. He’s a playmaker which is always hard to find. He made big plays and had an easy opportunity for a pick 6 (Against BC I believe?) that probably would have upped him to 2nd team all-ACC. I was totally bummed that he left because I thought he was that good and the guys we brought in didn’t do it for me when compared to losing Ja’Had and Duce. I don’t feel that way this year as I feel we brought in a much higher level of portal transfers, including the defensive backfield, and i’m not sure how much wear and tear from injuries have slowed him down. All things equal, I would take a healthy Ja’Had over Duce every day, especially at their current positions, but i’m sure prior relationship, and first come first serve took the choice out of it. It’s in the past now, but I would like to know who advises these kids on these potential life changing decisions. With his size and speed he easily could have been a late round draft pick this season if he built on his prior season. I really doubt he got that much more money from tOSU than he would have received from SU. It was a big gamble and right now he is on the losing side. I despise NC St, but I hope he has a great season and gets drafted.
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Definitely not
But I think if he enters portal back in January, we more than likely bring him back.
But he entered so late, there simply wasn’t room at the inn
