Development in and Around Syracuse Discussion

[xc84]

I understand what you’re saying, but a lot of Tusk regulars are going to be hard to win over.

Could be ...but he may also find some new customers. I don't live in Syracuse and first went to the Blue Tusk only a few weeks back. It thought it was ok... good location mostly.

 

[Fly Rodder]

Even if true, it is not the fault of the new tenant. And the building owner is new too (3 years ago)... sure... likely bought the building with a different plan than what is in there. I don't see why that is unusual or bad.

To me, and really, whatevs, I won't be there all that often anyway, but it's kind of like crapping all over something that is iconic and what has made Armory Square what it is. Yet, we still have Bar, CSP, and Syracuse Suds, none of which are particularly interesting (at least not to this middle-aged white guy, maybe they're awesome). It's weird to kick out a long time successful business to ... replace it with a nearly identical business, but somehow different.

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

Could be ...but he may also find some new customers. I don't live in Syracuse and first went to the Blue Tusk only a few weeks back. It thought it was ok... good location mostly.

Dark and stormies, and a night of bad decisions, before finals week or an exam week was always my vibe.

 

[OttoMets]

"the interior of the Blue Tusk will be gutted and completely remodeled"

That's sad.

Dark and stormies, and a night of bad decisions, before finals week or an exam week was always my vibe.

Great call; the Tusk was one of the few Cuse bars where the bartenders all knew how to make a good dark and stormy. With Saranac ginger beer, of course.

 

[OrangeDW]

Cool, Cuse can be just like all those other boring cities whose entire bar/restaurant history gets recycled every 10-15 years with new, “trendy” places booting out landmarks.

Ramen, pfft. GTFOH.

BRING BACK CLARKS.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Cool, Cuse can be just like all those other boring cities whose entire bar/restaurant history gets recycled every 10-15 years with new, “trendy” places booting out landmarks.

Ramen, pfft. GTFOH.

BRING BACK CLARKS.

I've got stories about Clarks! lol.

 

[Cusefan0307]

"the interior of the Blue Tusk will be gutted and completely remodeled"

That's sad.



Great call; the Tusk was one of the few Cuse bars where the bartenders all knew how to make a good dark and stormy. With Saranac ginger beer, of course.

Loved tusk myself and I am sure the pandemic helped do them in, but the last time I was there they only had about 20 taps and were missing half their food selection. Pretty sure it was before this was announced as well.

 

[Fly Rodder]

"the interior of the Blue Tusk will be gutted and completely remodeled"

That's sad.

"Hey Farva, what's the name of that restaurant you like with all the goofy [crap] on the walls and the mozzarella sticks?"

 

[Arangeman]

Loved tusk myself and I am sure the pandemic helped do them in, but the last time I was there they only had about 20 taps and were missing half their food selection. Pretty sure it was before this was announced as well.

Yes that was all Covid related. They had a limited food and drink menu and limited hours so they could stay afloat.

 

[FAL]

Loved tusk myself and I am sure the pandemic helped do them in, but the last time I was there they only had about 20 taps and were missing half their food selection. Pretty sure it was before this was announced as well.

Plus their beers were always ICE COLD! OK for Bud and whatevers, but not for all beers. Ray Clark knew how certain beers needed to be drawn at certain temps to bring out their best flavors. Broke my heart when he closed his original spot, hoped for a resurgence in the new one, only to be disappointed…

Hope Ray has found a good niche somewhere.

 

[HOFCeluck]

Please tell me Al’s is still there

 

[Cusefan0307]

Please tell me Al’s is still there

It is.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Plus their beers were always ICE COLD! OK for Bud and whatevers, but not for all beers. Ray Clark knew how certain beers needed to be drawn at certain temps to bring out their best flavors. Broke my heart when he closed his original spot, hoped for a resurgence in the new one, only to be disappointed…

Hope Ray has found a good niche somewhere.

The 4 figure bar tabs and after hours partying his nephew allowed when he ran the place did it in.

 

[Trueblue25]

Cool, Cuse can be just like all those other boring cities whose entire bar/restaurant history gets recycled every 10-15 years with new, “trendy” places booting out landmarks.

Ramen, pfft. GTFOH.

BRING BACK CLARKS.

Still miss the great pitcher deals at J Ryans too.

 

[FAL]

The 4 figure bar tabs and after hours partying his nephew allowed when he ran the place did it in.

Thanks for the inside information…
(So four-figure bar tabs that were never paid? That’ll do it!)

 

[shandeezy7]

City Hall Commons for sale? Walsh readies to relocate staff, redevelop flatiron building

The city is issuing a pair of RFPs for the building this summer

www.syracuse.com

 

[xc84]

I am looking forward to my next Cuse trip ...

First Look: Downtown Syracuse gets the authentic Mexican food it’s been begging for

The recipes come from the owner's grandfather.

www.syracuse.com

 

[Cusefan0307]

Syracuse Mayor calls ‘pie-in-the-sky’ idea for I-81 skyway ‘unconscionable, ridiculous’

"It is unconscionable that people, at this stage in the game, would be perpetuating this pie-in-the-sky idea as a legitimate proposal," Walsh said.

www.syracuse.com

I-81 project: New plans to remake Syracuse’s highway system to be released on Friday

State and federal officials will release the updated plans for Interstate 81 on Friday.

www.syracuse.com

 

[shandeezy7]

Syracuse Mayor calls ‘pie-in-the-sky’ idea for I-81 skyway ‘unconscionable, ridiculous’

"It is unconscionable that people, at this stage in the game, would be perpetuating this pie-in-the-sky idea as a legitimate proposal," Walsh said.

www.syracuse.com

I-81 project: New plans to remake Syracuse’s highway system to be released on Friday

State and federal officials will release the updated plans for Interstate 81 on Friday.

www.syracuse.com

Here is the entire report:

I-81 DEIS - July 2021

static.parsons.com

Interesting that the current stretch of 81 from 690 to 481 will not be renamed to a different Interstate number. Instead, it will go by BL 81 (I assume BL means business line?).

 

[OttoMets]

Here is the entire report:

I-81 DEIS - July 2021

static.parsons.com

Interesting that the current stretch of 81 from 690 to 481 will not be renamed to a different Interstate number. Instead, it will go by BL 81 (I assume BL means business line?).

Yeah, business loop. Which comes with some serious federal design standards (12-foot lanes, wide turning radii) that aren't compatible with cities.

There's a lot of work left to do.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Here is the entire report:

I-81 DEIS - July 2021

static.parsons.com

Interesting that the current stretch of 81 from 690 to 481 will not be renamed to a different Interstate number. Instead, it will go by BL 81 (I assume BL means business line?).

Business Loop

'BL 81': With community grid, I-81 in Syracuse would become business loop

It would no longer be Interstate 81, but the proposed community grid in Syracuse would maintain its link to the highway.

auburnpub.com

 

[shandeezy7]

Yeah, business loop. Which comes with some serious federal design standards (12-foot lanes, wide turning radii) that aren't compatible with cities.

There's a lot of work left to do.

Interesting. I'm not sure I quite understand what the purpose of that designation is instead of just relabeling it a different interstate highway number.

 

[OttoMets]

Interesting. I'm not sure I quite understand what the purpose of that designation is instead of just relabeling it a different interstate highway number.

It's a way to placate Pyramid et al.; they're still kinda sorta on an interstate highway.

So basically it's your classic awful compromise in which nobody's happy. The Save 81 putzes don't get their through-highway retained, but the city's going to suffer from a highway-in-everything-but-name jammed through the middle of it.

 

[shandeezy7]

It's a way to placate Pyramid et al.; they're still kinda sorta on an interstate highway.

So basically it's your classic awful compromise in which nobody's happy. The Save 81 putzes don't get their through-highway retained, but the city's going to suffer from a highway-in-everything-but-name jammed through the middle of it.

But wouldn't it continue to be an interstate highway regardless? It would connect two interstate highways (690 to 81), which I thought means it is still considered an interstate.

 

[OttoMets]

But wouldn't it continue to be an interstate highway regardless? It would connect two interstate highways (690 to 81), which I thought means it is still considered an interstate.

If they de-designated it (which they will, only to designate as a BL), it could've become a state or even county highway with more appropriate design standards.

EDIT: or no highway at all, at least along Almond Street.