Baldwinsville houses are outrageously expensive. Happy I moved here when I did 5 years ago. I probably could get almost double of what I paid in 2021.
You need a large enough developer and development. I'm talking 1000+ units in a master plan community filled with amenities to include a brand new elementary school.
Timber Banks has a lot more room for expansion to do this. There’s a couple spots in Clay and Cicero too, but their nimby’s are nuts. When the area grows it’s going to grow north. No room anywhere else.
I don’t think you’ll get developers willing to commit to these types of projects in the northeast. (And that’s before you consider politics / development rules). The developers are scared of population trends and have become very conservative on big development projects. Easier in the southeast to do these.
The only builder who could Handle that type of capacity was Ryan homes and they left the area. They need about 100 lots each year to build. Most subdivisions are about 18-25 lots and take about 2 years to build out. Most of those subdivisions have exclusive builders as well. Not to mention the average price of the homes is probably north of $600k
Central Square and Phoenix are obvious. Far North Clay and Lysander too
I assume some national and big regional builders will come in.
There was talk of a new subdivision on existing farmland off the downer street exit in Van Buren a couple years ago. I don't know what came of it. Lysander and Van Buren seem fine putting 2000-3000 square foot homes on quarter acre lots. That is what Timber Banks is now. Lysander is built up pretty well. Might have to go west of 690 for any new development. A big problem is Hencle is zoned all commercial.
Yes and yes. There is limited public water and sewage but they are expanding it. We moved out there 4 years ago and they had just completed a large portion north of our house. We live approx 1 mile north of the village of Phoenix. Micron related - They've significantly expanded the business park off 481 targeting semi-industry support companies.
You are correct, a large developer would have to run water feeder line from OCWA into Oswego county developement, not impossible but not cheap. The current population voted down the most recent attempt to bring in that supply, due to cost and the fact that the majority have ample supplies from their private wells tapping into an aquifer bedneath Schroeppel. The sewage problem would be somewhat more difficult to manage, but nothing is impossible with money and motivation. By the way the Ontario OCWA trunk line passes right through the area.
Except for Micron based developements, that expansion would not be ideal. I was thinking and commenting on Route 10 towards Pennellville, and east toward Caughdenoy. Those areas have large undeveloped tracts of land much closer to the Micron facilty in Clay.
i miss hinerwadels and their clambakes.
Correct. I was going to make a comment on my previous post that I assumed the current housing developments off 10 were connected to public services but was shocked to see they are all wells and septic. There's a hundred or so houses in a neighborhood setting - I didn't think the well and septic would work in such close quarters. Yes that area would be ideal if/when they do services.
I don't miss working there in the summers. Ugh.
are you the worker i spilled a beer on?
LOL no, those folks got tips. I was stuck in the barn bagging salt potatoes. And working with some real characters.
Lysander is really built up just from the Raddison to just past the village of B’ville western border. From 690 to Plainville , north to the Oswego County line and west to the Cayuga County line has lots of acreage but probably very little infrastructure for water or sewers etc. There isn’t a lot of development though because Lysander doesn’t want it. Maybe Cayuga and Oswego counties would welcome it more. Getting past B’ville village and the river is a real problem, it would need new roads, highways to bypass that huge bottleneck.
