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Development in and Around Syracuse Discussion

OttoMets said:
taking daytime public s---- (who am I kidding, no it wouldn't)
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Unrelated to Syracuse, but years ago I lived in the cosmopolitan hub of Boston, MA. The first day or two after I moved into my ground floor apartment, I woke up, made some coffee and opened the blinds just in time to see a homeless woman taking a dump in the alley. City livin'!
 
bevosu said:
Not liking this.

South Korean company Lotte to buy Bristol Myers Squibb plant in East Syracuse​

Bristol's 400 employees at the plant will become Lotte employees.
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I don’t know anything about that company but I feel as though there’s been rumors of DMs pulling out for a while now. Better to have it sold to another company than shut down. And if you believe what the Lotte executive said, they actually plan on investing and expanding operations in East Syracuse, which will be their North American headquarters. It’s a global conglomerate with over 60,000 employees worldwide (according to Wiki), so there could have been worse outcomes, it would seem.
 
shandeezy7 said:
I don’t know anything about that company but I feel as though there’s been rumors of DMs pulling out for a while now. Better to have it sold to another company than shut down. And if you believe what the Lotte executive said, they actually plan on investing and expanding operations in East Syracuse, which will be their North American headquarters. It’s a global conglomerate with over 60,000 employees worldwide (according to Wiki), so there could have been worse outcomes, it would seem.
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Over the years I've developed skepticism and mistrust for positive statements from executives of companies who take over existing facilities.

Carrier and New Process Gear.

I hope these people are what they say.
 
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bevosu said:
Over the years I've developed skepticism and mistrust for positive statements from executives of companies who take over existing facilities.

Carrier and New Process gear.

I hope these people are what they say.
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On the flip side and more recently, PPC and Welch Allyn were both sold and they still maintain a large presence in CNY.
 
Fly Rodder said:
Unrelated to Syracuse, but years ago I lived in the cosmopolitan hub of Boston, MA. The first day or two after I moved into my ground floor apartment, I woke up, made some coffee and opened the blinds just in time to see a homeless woman taking a dump in the alley. City livin'!
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shandeezy7 said:
On the flip side and more recently, PPC and Welch Allyn were both sold and they still maintain a large presence in CNY.
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They usually wait 5 years before starting to make their ultimate goals more apparent.
 
shandeezy7 said:
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Oh, that's reassuring. Hang out in the alley where all the cool kids are. LOL
At least you'll see your assailant coming, at least while those 5 strings of Christmas Tree lights last.
 
Cheriehoop said:
They usually wait 5 years before starting to make their ultimate goals more apparent.
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Welch Allyn was sold 7 years ago. Hill-ROM has invested millions and they employ over 1,000 people in skaneateles. PPC was acquired 10 years ago. Their corporate headquarters are still in Syracuse.
 
shandeezy7 said:
Welch Allyn was sold 7 years ago. Hill-ROM has invested millions and they employ over 1,000 people in skaneateles. PPC was acquired 10 years ago. Their corporate headquarters are still in Syracuse.
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I once worked for Porter Cable on Marcellus and Geddes St that was purchased by Rockwell International. (I actually worked for Rockwell which used to be Porter Cable). Promises were made but they moved all manufacturing to Jackson, Tenn, which failed, closed and sold numerous times (currently Porter Cable tools are made by Black and Decker). The empty building in Syracuse was partially repurposed and is known now as RockWest.

We all know about UTC and Carrier.

Happy about the Hill-ROM Welch-Allyn acquisition in 2015 which has worked out very well so far. However I don’t know if you realize that Hill-Rom was purchased by Baxter International in 2021 but the deal won’t be finalized till sometime this year. Hopefully the new owners will be just as committed to the Skaneateles facility. Hillrom, owner of Welch Allyn, to be acquired by Baxter for $10.5 billion; 1,000 jobs in CNY

I apologize I might be too skeptical only because I’ve seen too many hurtful decisions made because of short-term 5 year goals for bonus reasons. If the company taking over Bristol Labs actually makes all those costly improvements, that is a great sign for it’s future.
 
shandeezy7 said:
Some more renderings here. Surprised that the rooftop portion was touted but not visualized (at least publicly).

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I've probably said it here before, but:

1) CNY developers don't pay architects enough (not their fault; it's a tough market); but
2) inArchitects is doing some of the best design work in this area.
 
OttoMets said:
I've probably said it here before, but:

1) CNY developers don't pay architects enough (not their fault; it's a tough market); but
2) inArchitects is doing some of the best design work in this area.
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Yes, I enjoy a lot of their work. A step above a lot of the cookie cutter crap you see from "architects" these days. They did the design work for the new Villas at the Stoop, right? Breathtakingly beautiful.
 
I need to get there some time soon, it's been too long and who knows how much longer DeCuffa will keep running it

www.syracuse.com

Joey’s Italian Restaurant update: No sale for now, ‘business as usual’

The popular dining spot went up for auction last week, but no bids were accepted
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"Joey’s Italian Restaurant, which has operated near Carrier Circle since 1982, is currently “off the market” after an attempt to sell it in an online auction last week.

There were lots of bids, DeCuffa said, “but nothing that I wanted to accept. I was going to retire, but now I’m just going to wait. Nothing is changing, it’s business as usual.”
 
Cheriehoop said:
Bad development (sorry didn’t know what thread to put this) - uggh- at the very least it’s from bad to worse.
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The Post-Standard to move newspaper printing from Syracuse plant

The move, planned for August, will not affect delivery times or publication schedule.
www.syracuse.com www.syracuse.com
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Ugh, I remember when they started printing the paper in color and how much of a big deal that was. I understand wanting to invest more money in the journalism, print media is pretty much a dinosaur.
 
KellySyracuse said:
Ugh, I remember when they started printing the paper in color and how much of a big deal that was. I understand wanting to invest more money in the journalism, print media is pretty much a dinosaur.
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Eh. Doubtful.

They negotiated a great below-market lease when they sold the building. It's up and they don't want to pay, so out they go. Less overhead, more profit.

It's sad. I walked through the space a few weeks ago, just depressing to see that enormous space with all the silent equipment. Like part of a montage from a David Simon show.
 
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They're planning a $2 billion investment into healthcare and biologics.

I'm getting a Blade Runner vibe about the word "biologics".
 
OttoMets said:
Eh. Doubtful.

They negotiated a great below-market lease when they sold the building. It's up and they don't want to pay, so out they go. Less overhead, more profit.

It's sad. I walked through the space a few weeks ago, just depressing to see that enormous space with all the silent equipment. Like part of a montage from a David Simon show.
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Their attempt at online journalism so far is less than stellar. They run the same stories on their main page for over a week. They aren't great at updating the site's main page. They make public interest stories unavailable to nonsubscribers. Restaurant inspections etc.

Too many 'subscriber exclusives' that contain helpful information that the general public should be made aware of. That wouldn't be that bad if they charged a fair amount for a subscription.

I think they're doing a pretty poor job with their online publication.
 
Syracuse.com is $100 per year, for $8.33 per month I guess you have to decide if it's worth adding the cost to your budget. I pay for it because of the SU sports coverage and the local restaurant & entertainment coverage.
 
KellySyracuse said:
Syracuse.com is $100 per year, for $8.33 per month I guess you have to decide if it's worth adding the cost to your budget. I pay for it because of the SU sports coverage and the local restaurant & entertainment coverage.
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I pay $4 and $5 a month for the Washington Post and the NY Times. I see many local newspaper sites that charge a much more reasonable amount to subscribers.

The Raleigh News and Observer has a trial offer for $2 for 2 months...Syracuse.com doesn't seem to want to do anything like that. I don't like the way they run that site.
 
bevosu said:
I pay $4 and $5 a month for the Washington Post and the NY Times. I see many local newspaper sites that charge a much more reasonable amount to subscribers.

The Raleigh News and Observer has a trial offer for $2 for 2 months...Syracuse.com doesn't seem to want to do anything like that. I don't like the way they run that site.
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Washington Post and NY Times wouldn't be a good comparison given the subscriber base they have. I think the issue has more to do with Syracuse.com's owner, Advance Media. I'll bet the other properties they own have a similar subscription service - they also own media in Ohio, Alabama, Michigan and NJ

www.advance.com

Advance

Advance is a private, family-held business that owns and invests in companies across media, entertainment, technology, communications, education and other promising growth sectors.
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