Dino's Game 3 Press Conference for Albany: 10:55 AM

[JeremyCuse]

It is very tough to imagine things getting much better as the season progresses which is a damn shame.

It really is, for the offense to be this bad in year six is unfathomable. There was a long thread about SU averaging over 30 pts a game, in 2 games weve barely eclipsed 30 points total against two bad teams. That said there's still a % on this board though that's going down with the Dino ship no matter what. I don't know if the 10 win season is doing it, they don't want to start over again or Dino loaned them money but people simply aren't facing reality. It's not optimal timing for John Wildhack with Desko gone and JB likely done after this year but he needs to pull the trigger and not delay the inevitable. As a wise man once said "Its over Johnny"

 

[City of Cuse]

Does anyone have an idea what the approximate buyout is?

 

[hoopsupstate]

It really is, for the offense to be this bad in year six is unfathomable. There was a long thread about SU averaging over 30 pts a game, in 2 games weve barely eclipsed 30 points total against two bad teams. That said there's still a % on this board though that's going down with the Dino ship no matter what. I don't know if the 10 win season is doing it, they don't want to start over again or Dino loaned them money but people simply aren't facing reality. It's not optimal timing for John Wildhack with Desko gone and JB likely done after this year but he needs to pull the trigger and not delay the inevitable. As a wise man once said "Its over Johnny"

I think the issue with people is that good coaches aren’t knocking on the door to come to SU. Football recruiting is nearly impossible to bring in top end talent. People are also tired of another five year transition.

 

[storange]

I think the issue with people is that good coaches aren’t knocking on the door to come to SU. Football recruiting is nearly impossible to bring in top end talent. People are also tired of another five year transition.

I understand the recruiting problem but it’s not impossible. There are multiple schools across the country that have similar recruiting issues but do fine. Not talking elite like the Bama /Clemsons of the world, but the Cincinnati s , Coastal Carolinas, Iowa St, types programs also that had long periods of mediocre to bad teams like our current run. It’s not easy but It can be done. Are you telling me BC has recruiting advantage. You could say kids want to live in Boston a popular city, if that was the case Hawaii would be Bama.

 

[Bayside44]

I understand the recruiting problem but it’s not impossible. There are multiple schools across the country that have similar recruiting issues but do fine. Not talking elite like the Bama /Clemsons of the world, but the Cincinnati s , Coastal Carolinas, Iowa St, types programs also that had long periods of mediocre to bad teams like our current run. It’s not easy but It can be done. Are you telling me BC has recruiting advantage. You could say kids want to live in Boston a popular city, if that was the case Hawaii would be Bama.

On this - you can throw a net around southern Ohio and SC and get kids, unlike us (Doesn't explain ISU to your point). BC has a constituency with Catholic HSs...I honestly don't know how this nut can be cracked for us.

 

[storange]

On this - you can throw a net around southern Ohio and SC and get kids, unlike us (Doesn't explain ISU to your point). BC has a constituency with Catholic HSs...I honestly don't know how this nut can be cracked for us.

Good SC kids have Clemson USC East, and whole bunch of others, there getting what’s left. Same as Cincinnati with OSU, ND , Mich, and several others. We did it in the 90s, I know landscapes change but in theory we’re ACC now it should be even easier then the less thought of old BE. Don’t misunderstand me , it’s very difficult.

 

[Bayside44]

Good SC kids have Clemson USC East, and whole bunch of others, there getting what’s left. Same as Cincinnati with OSU, ND , Mich, and several others. We did it in the 90s, I know landscapes change but in theory we’re ACC now it should be even easier then the less thought of old BE. Don’t misunderstand me , it’s very difficult.

We were talking about this Saturday. We aren't getting local kids that are AA types like the good old days. Just a lot tougher. Those southern and Ohio areas just has so much more when it comes to football, what's left is still pretty ok. My wife's hs in NC was terrible in the 90s, now they send multiple kids to ACC / SEC type programs.

 

[FasterCuse]

Does anyone have an idea what the approximate buyout is?

According to a Syr.com article Dino's base salary (not including any performance awards) was 3.1M in 2019, which was the first year of his contract extension. I believe I read somewhere that the extension was for 5 years, which means 2021 is year 3. Assuming a 5% increase per year on base salary and that we'd have to pay out the remaining two years base, I'd put the buyout after the 2021 season at 7.3M just for Dino. Add in another 1M to 1.5M for assistant buyouts, and we're looking at about 9M or so in total.

 

[PhatOrange]

On this - you can throw a net around southern Ohio and SC and get kids, unlike us (Doesn't explain ISU to your point). BC has a constituency with Catholic HSs...I honestly don't know how this nut can be cracked for us.

Of the 130 kids on the Iowa State roster, 44 of them are from Iowa. That's a huge number for a state nobody would believe produces a lot of talent. The state supports two P5 teams to.

Syracuse has 104 players on their roster. Guess how many are from New York?

11

Crazy.

 

[storange]

We were talking about this Saturday. We aren't getting local kids that are AA types like the good old days. Just a lot tougher. Those southern and Ohio areas just has so much more when it comes to football, what's left is still pretty ok. My wife's hs in NC was terrible in the 90s, now they send multiple kids to ACC / SEC type programs.

No doubt, schools with geographical shortcomings can also use virtual means such as used during Covid that could also be utilized.

 

[Bayside44]

Of the 130 kids on the Iowa State roster, 44 of them are from Iowa. That's a huge number for a state nobody would believe produces a lot of talent. The state supports two P5 teams to.

Syracuse has 104 players on their roster. Guess how many are from New York?

11

Crazy.

They make em big on the farm! One really has to throw out millions in NYS population that just don't produce and have football players.

Check out our lax roster for NYS kids, big difference.

 

[storange]

Of the 130 kids on the Iowa State roster, 44 of them are from Iowa. That's a huge number for a state nobody would believe produces a lot of talent. The state supports two P5 teams to.

Syracuse has 104 players on their roster. Guess how many are from New York?

11

Crazy.

That’s interesting, I wonder if many of those are starters, but certainly provides depth at a minimum.

 

[RMH44]

I think the issue with people is that good coaches aren’t knocking on the door to come to SU. Football recruiting is nearly impossible to bring in top end talent. People are also tired of another five year transition.

Tony White should be candidate number 1 if Dino gets canned. Young, enthusiastic and can recruit. Let him bring in a young, enthusiastic and innovative OC and have at it.

 

[storange]

Speaking of recruiting, we know kids hit message boards. Wish we could block this one, it’s toxic for potential recruits.

 

[FloridaFan]

Speaking of recruiting, we know kids hit message boards. Wish we could block this one, it’s toxic for potential recruits.

I think the actual team itself is toxic enough

 

[storange]

I think the actual team itself is toxic enough

How’s that, because they lost a game ?

 

[JRHEETER]

Tony White for HC

 

[storange]

Tony White for HC

What school ?

 

[qdawgg]

Dino did want to put anything on tape for Albany to review, now comes the kitchen sink

We’ll open things up with a special teams penalty

 

[dollarbill44]

I think the issue with people is that good coaches aren’t knocking on the door to come to SU. Football recruiting is nearly impossible to bring in top end talent. People are also tired of another five year transition.

Why should anyone be afraid of the transition. We won 1 game last year. It can only get slightly worse than that. Other than 2018, Dino's entire record is a rebuilding season type record.
And I LOVED, absolutely loved, the Dino hire. I really thought he was going to be special and the early changes were palpable. We had an exciting, fast-paced offense right off the bat, and we showed improvement in each season. Until ED graduated.

 

[orangenauburn]

On this - you can throw a net around southern Ohio and SC and get kids, unlike us (Doesn't explain ISU to your point). BC has a constituency with Catholic HSs...I honestly don't know how this nut can be cracked for us.

Canada

 

[storange]

Why should anyone be afraid of the transition. We won 1 game last year. It can only get slightly worse than that. Other than 2018, Dino's entire record is a rebuilding season type record.
And I LOVED, absolutely loved, the Dino hire. I really thought he was going to be special and the early changes were palpable. We had an exciting, fast-paced offense right off the bat, and we showed improvement in each season. Until ED graduated.

And then we put all our eggs in the Devito basket and at the time we were fine with that. ED wasn’t perfect and he had some subpar games , but he was special and the type you don’t come across often.

 

[MadNY3]

Of the 130 kids on the Iowa State roster, 44 of them are from Iowa. That's a huge number for a state nobody would believe produces a lot of talent. The state supports two P5 teams to.

Syracuse has 104 players on their roster. Guess how many are from New York?

11

Crazy.

Doin't think Iowa is a good comp.

Iowa State's in-state tuition is ~$8000/year. Syracuse's is over 7x that. I wonder how many of those 44 are on scholly versus not.

 

[PhatOrange]

Doin't think Iowa is a good comp.

Iowa State's in-state tuition is ~$8000/year. Syracuse's is over 7x that. I wonder how many of those 44 are on scholly versus not.

Oh I know. The talk was how do other geographically challenged schools (like Iowa/Iowa State) recruit. Well in-state tuition is one way. But many many states produces WAY more football talent than New York. NY produces zero. Iowa actually has national level type prospects.

 

[DomeStranger]

According to a Syr.com article Dino's base salary (not including any performance awards) was 3.1M in 2019, which was the first year of his contract extension. I believe I read somewhere that the extension was for 5 years, which means 2021 is year 3. Assuming a 5% increase per year on base salary and that we'd have to pay out the remaining two years base, I'd put the buyout after the 2021 season at 7.3M just for Dino. Add in another 1M to 1.5M for assistant buyouts, and we're looking at about 9M or so in total.

I don't really understand the math here. 2021 is already bought so 2 years left would 6.2, usually a (buyout) deal is made which is around half that which would be 3M, 5 tops. Assistant buyouts at SU aren't a big concern, most of them are year to year.