Duke -7.5 over Cuse…..

[Archbold44]

100%. Gotta win this one to continue momentum for the program

A season full of must wins so far.

 

[FloridaCuse]

Duke coach Manny Diaz said at his presser this week (to paraphrase) -- Syracuse lost its QB from last year (to the NFL) when they were the No. 1 passing team in the country and they only went down to being No. 4. They just lost their QB as No. 4 and I don't expect them to lose a step. [seen on ACC PM]

Rickie says: same offenese, same playbook.

 

[FloridaCuse]

A few sites, including Cesear's, have gone down to Duke -5. ESPN, DK, FD still at -5.5.

 

[upperdeck]

I hope we see the aggressive D and we get home a few times. But am more worried we give up a home run run play. Duke did not run well vs Ill or NC st except for that one 66 yd run.

 

[RedtheGOB]

Quick Google search...GT has 7 wins vs. ranked teams as an underdog since Key took over. No other team in the country has more than 5. No ACC team has more than 3. They took Georgia to 8 OTs last season before losing or they would have had an 8th. During that span, GT is 16-6 ATS as dogs, including 12 straight up wins. That's the most wins as a dog of any Power 4 team in the last 3 years.

Maybe they are overrated, but there are impressive performances behind the hype.

I don't know. Looks like the Babers effect to me. Start hot and then fizzle out. Granted the schedule for them was much tougher with Georgia and ND later in season last 2 years.

2022: 2-4 to close the season
2023: 3-3 to close season
2024: 3-3 to close season
2025: TBD

 

[Tony DeFranco]

I think we beat Duke by 10 or more - with that said - we should have lost to UCONN at home - crowd will be vastly different than UCONN for Duke game

 

[Lukeyloo]

They've been mediocre the last 15 years. They are sitting in the same tier as Syracuse, NC State, Pittsburgh but often mentioned in higher esteem.

Well beat them and Haynes King again this year, and they'll continue to be a disappointment.

southern bias.

 

[PhatOrange]

2 weeks straight of listening to college sports radio on Sirius about 100 hrs. GTech got tons of love and credit all week for beating Clemson; (at home) and still is getting credit because they're still being talked about as an ACC contender.

Syracuse has gotten no credit at all for beating the same Clemson team at their place. The narrative has completely flipped to Clemson being a bad team.

 

[baggerbob]

southern bias.

The best thing that happened was the bookies, Fran is going to use the entire week to tell his team. We dominated a good team for 60 minutes in death Valley.
And the entire country thinks you still are a bad team.
It's time to go out and bury that idea this week.

 

[Cusefan95]

They've been mediocre the last 15 years. They are sitting in the same tier as Syracuse, NC State, Pittsburgh but often mentioned in higher esteem.

Well beat them and Haynes King again this year, and they'll continue to be a disappointment.

Georgia Tech might be a good team, and might beat Syracuse this year - but the amount of hype they got for losing a game in OT to Georgia is absurd. They have two winning season in the last seven (both 7-6); one double digit win season in the last 15. It baffles me why they seem more highly regarded than Syracuse when they've done LESS in that 15 year window, AND were not as good as Syracuse last year.

I'd really hesitate to take a job at Georgia Tech- it wouldn't be shocking to see Key ultimately get fired for failing to live up to artificially inflated and unrealistic expectations. Not this year - but there's almost no way he can live up to what GT fans expect now.

 

[kingtidge]

We are a hard team to figure out so far so not surprised by the line. We almost lose to UConn. Kick the hell out of Colgate (as we should), then kick Clemsom’s butt…in Clemson. And now we are without the starting QB. I can see why Vegas is confused lol

Not to mention Duke isn’t exactly the most consistent team this year either. It’s really just a guessing game with these two teams for Saturday. I like our odds with how the defense has played lately and having Nixon as our OC. Fran will have the kids ready and should be a packed Dome. I like our chances

Plus new starting QB = unknown for Vegas...

The line reflects that as much as anything is my guess.

 

[omg_cuse_rules]

Syracuse moneyline at +180? I want a piece of that

 

[690West]

Syracuse moneyline at +180? I want a piece of that

Man. That only implies a 35% chance for us to win. You’re right. That’s some good EV if you think the game is a coinflip

 

[GoSU96]

2 weeks straight of listening to college sports radio on Sirius about 100 hrs. GTech got tons of love and credit all week for beating Clemson; (at home) and still is getting credit because they're still being talked about as an ACC contender.

Syracuse has gotten no credit at all for beating the same Clemson team at their place. The narrative has completely flipped to Clemson being a bad team.

Other than Fran being the hottest coach out there, no credit at all.

It’s four games in, it doesn’t matter what the chatter is.

If they get through Duke, SMU, Pitt 6-1, then we can get worked up.

 

[SUalldway]

Other than Fran being the hottest coach out there, no credit at all.

It’s four games in, it doesn’t matter what the chatter is.

If they get through Duke, SMU, Pitt 6-1, then we can get worked up.

If we get 2 or more of the next 3, I will continue to be psyched up!

 

[Scotch]

If we get 2 or more of the next 3, I will continue to be psyched up!

I would be thrilled to get 2. That’s a tough slate with a new QB. Even 1 isn’t the end of the world.

 

[FloridaCuse]

Some movement down to Duke -4.5. Cesear's & DK at -4.5. FD & ESPN still at -5.5. Total now at 60.5.

 

[SUskibum]

I don't know. Looks like the Babers effect to me. Start hot and then fizzle out. Granted the schedule for them was much tougher with Georgia and ND later in season last 2 years.

2022: 2-4 to close the season
2023: 3-3 to close season
2024: 3-3 to close season
2025: TBD

We ended 2024 on a 4 game winning streak and won 5 of our last 6

 

[RedtheGOB]

We ended 2024 on a 4 game winning streak and won 5 of our last 6

I was talking about GTech not us

 

[beetledoc]

Regardless of the line(s) and predictions - "JUST WIN BABY" as a famous SU alum once uttered. As for the spread, let it mean the offense and football downfield among the receivers and TEs. I believe that this game will be a grin for SU until the half before they pull away in the 3rd and 4th quarters.
So impressed by our greatly improved special teams, kicking and overall ball discipline - requires the other team to earn the win instead of us blowing the victory!
Here' to Fran and our Syracuse team this Saturday!
My question is - if (or when) SU wins this game - then what other excuses will prognasticators dredge up to keep SU unranked and the weekly underdog? This team is not overachieving but are actually a very good team fulfilling what SU sports are about - producing champions in all sports - wish Jim Brown and Floyd Little were here to witness the resurgence - it'd would have made them proud - but thanks to and for them being and representing SU - SU's Mount Rushmore indeed!

 

[CuseFan]

Every single time I bet on the Cuse as it should be a slam dunk, something tragic or unexpected happens. I expect the Orange to win by 10 with a coming out party for Rickie. First drive or two should be lots of RB runs and quick passes.

But I will not bet on this game to avoid any curse on me. You're welcome.

 

[VTAaron]

I vaguely remember last week Clemson was a favor the other way... and all of SYR media had it around 30 -15 ish around for Clemson as prediction for win.

 

[Niastri]

2 weeks straight of listening to college sports radio on Sirius about 100 hrs. GTech got tons of love and credit all week for beating Clemson; (at home) and still is getting credit because they're still being talked about as an ACC contender.

Syracuse has gotten no credit at all for beating the same Clemson team at their place. The narrative has completely flipped to Clemson being a bad team.

I'm worried that narrative might be accurate. Transitive properties being what they are, Clemson hasn't beaten anybody, and some of the teams they lost to are questionable.

LSU beat Clemson, two tomato cans and 1-3 Florida.
Georgia Tech beat Clemson, 2-2 Colorado and two tomato cans.

Syracuse beat UConn and Colgate.

So, Clemson has a 1-3 record against teams whose victories against teams not named Clemson are 8-1, but with only two legit victories LSU vs. Florida and Georgia Tech @ Colorado.

And you know what? I'm not sure I'm fully willing to count Florida and Colorado as quality wins. They have lost to everybody but their own tomato cans.

Clemson might just be terrible and we're not sure yet if we really did something impressive by beating them... They might just be this year's version of Florida State.

 

[VTAaron]

I'm worried that narrative might be accurate. Transitive properties being what they are, Clemson hasn't beaten anybody, and some of the teams they lost to are questionable.

LSU beat Clemson, two tomato cans and 1-3 Florida.
Georgia Tech beat Clemson, 2-2 Colorado and two tomato cans.

Syracuse beat UConn and Colgate.

So, Clemson has a 1-3 record against teams whose victories against teams not named Clemson are 8-1, but with only two legit victories LSU vs. Florida and Georgia Tech @ Colorado.

And you know what? I'm not sure I'm fully willing to count Florida and Colorado as quality wins. They have lost to everybody but their own tomato cans.

Clemson might just be terrible and we're not sure yet if we really did something impressive by beating them... They might just be this year's version of Florida State.

Thats a good point, but GT is a better team than last year, and well I hate to say it Clemson, Florida, Miami, VT are not top dogs anymore in the ACC and some are not rated as such while others have. Honestly speaking Duke is a wildcard as I've not seen play with them much, but Clemson everyone says (they never loose in Death Valley) well it happened twice...

 

[bballbeadle]

Are people overlooking Louisville?