Duke in trouble at Clemson

[NineOneSeven]

At this point we should almost expect to go through the conference undefeated

Bold.

 

[jncuse]

If things had stayed the same, the current Big East would not be the Old Big East either. We would have some rivalry games (which will be missed), but outside of Pitt, there would be Nova, Louisville (maybe) and Cincy (possibly) as good teams. Lots of down teams - Georgetown, UConn, Notre Dame, Marquette.

That league would not have been much stronger (if any) to be honest. Do some people miss the bottom feeding trash that are actually worse at the Bottom of the BE?
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[two3zone]

I get that. I was just referring to the fact that 'what could be the greatest conference ever' is incredibly mediocre.

Or maybe even worse than mediocre. It's a train wreck.

 

[Cusefan95]

i'm saying the ONLY way i would ever have let ND into the Big East was ALL IN. period. had they brought football then i imagine miami pitt and va tech wouldn't have bolted. irish instead got to have their cake and eat it too. they enjoyed the success and recruiting the BE offered their hoops and lax programs and in return gave us NOTHING. now we see the ACC taking the same sucker bet. sad really. screw notre douche!

SO Notre Dame would have gotten a deal from the ACC instead, the Big East would have gotten even crappier bowl deals than they managed...and the football playing schools would have left as soon as possible. And we'd be at basically the same spot as we are now, possibly sooner. Your "solution" is horrible - the deal with ND was made because it bought the Big East some temporary stability - but the Big East was NEVER in a position of strength AND actually was getting something of value out of the deal. They just could come up with any other cards to make a legitimate hand.

Edit: If Notre Dame eventually joins the ACC - which is a possibility where Notre Dame joining the Big East never fully was - it will have been an incredible coup by Swofford.

 

[jncuse]

What would be considered the tougher schedule this year?

Virginia, Florida St, Clemson and UNC

Or

Georgetown, UConn, Marquette and Notre Dame

 

[AZOrange]

Is this what we sold our soul for?

No we left for ou share of fsu/Clemson game checks...cha-Ching!

 

[jncuse]

I think Miami could finish better then unc and give a run to equal duke, heck they already beat duke they are for real.

Miami has not played Duke

 

[tbonezone]

for last time tonite . notre dame football never ever joined the big east. you do realize that yes?
thusly notre dame football had ZERO effect on any BE bowl negotiations. to argue otherwise...

 

[orangefan13]

my bad they beat unc thats right.
unc and duke are both have 2 losses in conference wow.

 

[jncuse]

There's a lot of watered down conferences now. That's the problem.

Pretty fair assessment - its spread out and spread out beyond the BCS more than normal. B12 and P12 are up which takes away some top 25 slots from prior year. B10 is good and people want to push them up, so they get 1 extra undeserved top 25 team like Illinois last week.
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[zhanjuzi]

Benefit for us with clemson is they are a team built to beat weak mtm teams. Dukes d is charmin soft. Unc might actually even roast the devils this year in the not so big rivalry game.

Very strange year. I remember watching the Duke-Kansas game early on this year and thought both teams were way ahead of us in terms of speed and athleticism.

I wonder if the Jabari - Carmelo comparisons will continue.

 

[PoppyHart]

my bad they beat unc thats right.
unc and duke are both have 2 losses in conference wow.

that's also false.

 

[kirbivore]

At this point we should almost expect to go through the conference undefeated

This year might challenge 1999 as the worst year I've seen for ACC hoops. That Duke team was very good and went undefeated against a putrid ACC that only had 2 other tourney teams. ACC had 9 teams back then.

 

[kirbivore]

for last time tonite . notre dame football never ever joined the big east. you do realize that yes?
thusly notre dame football had ZERO effect on any BE bowl negotiations. to argue otherwise...

they didn't join the Big East but glommed onto the Big East bowls. If you looked at a list of affliate bowls back then they'd say Big East #X or Notre Dame vs. other conference team. Notre Dame being involved in the Big East bowl agreements is a major reason the Gator Bowl hung in there for so long as a Big East Bowl partner.