Duke's 2-3

[longislandcuse]

LOVE how they are playing the 2-3 against ND.

No open threes. No lay ups. All the mid-range two's your heart desires. Even with Colson hitting 2 after 2 after 2, they don't get any momentum 3's and can't gain any ground popping little jumpers.

As if this season couldn't get even more frustrating, Coach K takes our defense and modernizes it the way half this board has been clamoring for our coach to do at the start of every game.

 

[cuseinseattle]

LOVE how they are playing the 2-3 against ND.

No open threes. No lay ups. All the mid-range two's your heart desires. Even with Colson hitting 2 after 2 after 2, they don't get any momentum 3's and can't gain any ground popping little jumpers.

As if this season couldn't get even more frustrating, Coach K takes our defense and modernizes it the way half this board has been clamoring for our coach to do at the start of every game.

I love how they scored 88. If we did that every game what would record be.

 

[Alsacs]

Duke has stolen JB’s zone

Yeah I had this 3 months ago.

 

[Madbiker]

I love how none of the announcers, even Bilas, gives JB any credit for teaching the 2-3 zone to coach K. It's like isn't K a genius for playing zone? Looks like K got more out of picking JB's brain during USA Basketball than vice versa.

 

[br801]

I love how none of the announcers, even Bilas, gives JB any credit for teaching the 2-3 zone to coach K. It's like isn't K a genius for playing zone? Looks like K got more out of picking JB's brain during USA Basketball than vice versa.

If we're lucky, after the season maybe K and a few of the board coaches will give a zone clinic and invite JB.

 

[PhatOrange]

Tavern league

 

[STEVEHOLT]

LOVE how they are playing the 2-3 against ND.

No open threes. No lay ups. All the mid-range two's your heart desires. Even with Colson hitting 2 after 2 after 2, they don't get any momentum 3's and can't gain any ground popping little jumpers.

As if this season couldn't get even more frustrating, Coach K takes our defense and modernizes it the way half this board has been clamoring for our coach to do at the start of every game.

They also apply some 2-2-1 token pressure which reduces the shot clock and sometimes results in turnovers , all the while not burning your guys out

 

[STEVEHOLT]

I love how none of the announcers, even Bilas, gives JB any credit for teaching the 2-3 zone to coach K. It's like isn't K a genius for playing zone? Looks like K got more out of picking JB's brain during USA Basketball than vice versa.

We’ll since the Gulf of Tonken ... errr I mean the loss to lemoyne ... we aren’t going to play any man at all

 

[tbonezone]

is it even legal to switch defenses once you've committed to it ?

 

[cuseinseattle]

I love how none of the announcers, even Bilas, gives JB any credit for teaching the 2-3 zone to coach K. It's like isn't K a genius for playing zone? Looks like K got more out of picking JB's brain during USA Basketball than vice versa.

I love how fans on our board think K improved the zone while giving up 70 points

 

[STEVEHOLT]

is it even legal to switch defenses once you've committed to it ?

You have to have your congressman petition the NCAA

 

[STEVEHOLT]

I love how fans on our board think K improved the zone while giving up 70 points

I wouldn’t be so quick to use absolute points as an indicator of how good a defense is . There are ALOT more possessions in a Duke vs Note Dame game than your average SU game

 

[SoBeCuse]

I wouldn’t be so quick to use absolute points as an indicator of how good a defense is . There are ALOT more possessions in a Duke vs Note Dame game than your average SU game

Yup, Duke doesn’t play at a snail’s pace and get up and down. Polar opposite tempo from us.

 

[Toga]

They also apply some 2-2-1 token pressure which reduces the shot clock and sometimes results in turnovers , all the while not burning your guys out

Have been advocating this forever! Especially since they shortened the shot clock.

 

[bevosu]

Duke shot 55% from the floor and 47% from 3. Something that we rarely did this season. Defense was secondary in this win.

 

[cuseinseattle]

I wouldn’t be so quick to use absolute points as an indicator of how good a defense is . There are ALOT more possessions in a Duke vs Note Dame game than your average SU game

Jim Boeheim is a better teacher of zone defense that Coach K and Syracuse this year was a better zone defensive team. This is so obvious to me I will need to come up with statistics to back it up. Give me a few moments. It’s like saying the weather is warmer in Alaska than Hawaii. I know that isn’t true but it seems so obvious. Why are we talking about it

 

[longislandcuse]

Jim Boeheim is a better teacher of zone defense that Coach K and Syracuse this year was a better zone defensive team. This is so obvious to me I will need to come up with statistics to back it up. Give me a few moments. It’s like saying the weather is warmer in Alaska than Hawaii. I know that isn’t true but it seems so obvious. Why are we talking about it

Duke is a Top 10 defense since committing to the zone.

 

[cuseinseattle]

Duke is a Top 10 defense since committing to the zone.

Syracuse is the #8 Fg percentage defense in the nation. I don’t have stats regarding Duke splitting there time running m2m to zone. They are outside the top 10, I believe 12 or so. Can you share the stats you are referencing

 

[longislandcuse]

Syracuse is the #8 Fg percentage defense in the nation. I don’t have stats regarding Duke splitting there time running m2m to zone. They are outside the top 10, I believe 12 or so. Can you share the stats you are referencing

They talked all about Duke's defensive ratings during the Duke/ND game. They've been one of the best defensive teams in the country since switching to zone.

...unless Bilas and Shulman are making that up.

 

[SoBeCuse]

Jim Boeheim is a better teacher of zone defense that Coach K and Syracuse this year was a better zone defensive team. This is so obvious to me I will need to come up with statistics to back it up. Give me a few moments. It’s like saying the weather is warmer in Alaska than Hawaii. I know that isn’t true but it seems so obvious. Why are we talking about it

I’m sure JB is a better teacher of it but we don’t have the ideal personnel for it this year. I don’t care what our defensive efficiency numbers are this year. Part of it is because we held the ball so damn long on offense so opponents had fewer possessions. Record number of shot clock violations as well? I digress. But, teams like Duke, UNC, UVA, and others did whoop us inside. Louisville was before they went away from it. Duke is very good on defense especially inside with their zone.

 

[cuseinseattle]

They talked all about Duke's defensive ratings during the Duke/ND game. They've been one of the best defensive teams in the country since switching to zone.

...unless Bilas and Shulman are making that up.

It has to be true when I look for objective Duke analysis the first place I go is Shulman and Bilas

 

[cuseinseattle]

I’m sure JB is a better teacher of it but we don’t have the ideal personnel for it this year. I don’t care what our defensive efficiency numbers are this year. Part of it is because we held the ball so damn long on offense. But, teams like Duke, UNC, UVA, and others did whoop us inside. Louisville was before they went away from it. Duke is very good on defense especially inside with their zone.

What does us holding the ball have to do with our defensive field goal percentage

 

[longislandcuse]

It has to be true when I look for objective Duke analysis the first place I go is Shulman and Bilas

I'm pretty sure they didn't just make up a random stat like "Duke has been a Top 10 defense since switching to zone". They also doubled down by mentioning they are a top 10 offense and only one other team has a top 25 offense and defense, that being Villanova.

 

[SoBeCuse]

What does us holding the ball have to do with our defensive field goal percentage

Well it certainly gives teams fewer opportunities to score. Floor % is a good calculator and extremely valuable metric.

NCAA Basketball Stats - NCAA BB Team Opponent Floor % on TeamRankings.com

 

[IthacaMatt]

I love how none of the announcers, even Bilas, gives JB any credit for teaching the 2-3 zone to coach K. It's like isn't K a genius for playing zone? Looks like K got more out of picking JB's brain during USA Basketball than vice versa.

Yeah, where's our version of the Duke offense??