Ed Orgeron thread...

[NC'cusefan]

I'm not against Orgeron he just isn't the sexy pick. I'd prefer a younger coach but this isn't Greg Robinson .

 

[DomeStranger]

I think this is more realistic than people realize.

Seems like it would benefit everybody. Let's face it, Frost most likely would use us as a stepping stone if he succeeds. You tell Eddie O that he would get a serious look at HC if and when that happens.

It would keep things cohesive after Frost bolts. Win for everybody.

 

[Janner]

I think this is more realistic than people realize.

I think this is a real long shot but I would love to believe this is the case. The issue I see in is that it means Coyle would not allow Frost to hand pick arguably the most important position on his staff? IF Coyle could sell Frost on the HC position, and in him taking EO, then I would feel very comfortable not only with the direction of the program but with Coyle running the show.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[NC'cusefan]

My biggest concern about Orgeron is that he will never beat Alabama.

 

[jekelish]

You're kidding right? Am I the only one that thinks it is weird that we are trying to find the AHC/DC before the HC is named? Unless this process is already in the advanced stages and Frost has agreed in principle, how can Coyle be vetting his potential running-mates?

While it would be amazing if it happened, the HC should pick his staff, not the AD.

No, I'm not kidding.

 

[Crusty]

I think this is more realistic than people realize.

Anything is possible, but I think that would require an enthusiastic buy-in by Frost or whomever. Otherwise, I doubt we could hire anyone with stips on the composition of their staff. Observers view us as a coach killer program, which is why we are ranked near the bottom of the vacant HC opportunities. It is going to be a reach for anyone on the "list" as it is. That said, would be cool it it were to happen.

 

[GoSU96]

I don't think EO is a viable P5 head coach candidate this time around, but a good 1-2 year stint as a AHC/DC would probably change that

Exactly, that's the value proposition for him.

 

[Crusty]

BTW Coach O has never been a coordinator.

 

[GoSU96]

Anything is possible, but I think that would require an enthusiastic buy-in by Frost or whomever. Otherwise, I doubt we could hire anyone with stips on the composition of their staff. Observers view us as a coach killer program, which is why we are ranked near the bottom of the vacant HC opportunities. It is going to be a reach for anyone on the "list" as it is. That said, would be cool it it were to happen.

Actually I think that would make the job more attractive. Instant high end recruiter has worked at that place before and SEC and PAC-12 HC experience to fall back on.

EO would have to swallow some pride but it as a short term stint to get him closer to his goal, its a win for him to.

 

[HeaterCuse22]

Anything is possible, but I think that would require an enthusiastic buy-in by Frost or whomever. Otherwise, I doubt we could hire anyone with stips on the composition of their staff. Observers view us as a coach killer program, which is why we are ranked near the bottom of the vacant HC opportunities. It is going to be a reach for anyone on the "list" as it is. That said, would be cool it it were to happen.

It is likely that Frost may know/connect with Ed O from their time in the PAC12 Overlapped.

 

[HeaterCuse22]

Actually I think that would make the job more attractive. Instant high end recruiter has worked at that place before and SEC and PAC-12 HC experience to fall back on.

EO would have to swallow some pride but it as a short term stint to get him closer to his goal, its a win for him to.

Well EO is a Dline coach about to lose his job.

 

[phil77]

I think this is more realistic than people realize.

I have been calling for it for weeks now I think. It puts us in a great place. If we can keep Acosta and White from the current staff we would be in outstanding position for the next couple years.

 

[kcsu]

The coach killer thing is in the past. When we were in the Big East i could see it. Now we are in the ACC we have a new IPF we have a very young team with solid talent we are about to turn the dome into one of the best venues in all of college sports and the east coast is open for business as Rutger, Maryland, and others are down. This is the reason that Coyle took the job. He will find a great coach and put together a world class staff. These guys are all in and it is going to show

 

[Crusty]

It is likely that Frost may know/connect with Ed O from their time in the PAC12 Overlapped.

Very good point.

 

[Ernj]

You're kidding right? Am I the only one that thinks it is weird that we are trying to find the AHC/DC before the HC is named? Unless this process is already in the advanced stages and Frost has agreed in principle, how can Coyle be vetting his potential running-mates?

While it would be amazing if it happened, the HC should pick his staff, not the AD.

I am guessing there is a very good chance that during one of the conversations Coyle has had with Frost/his Agent they have discussed this possibility. Perhaps Frost said that if he comes on as HC then he would be open to this. If so, then Coyle would not be picking the staff for the potential HC...

 

[phil77]

So we would have Oregon's offense with LSU defense? Of course not the athletes to run it at that level yet but those systems would be in place?

 

[Toga]

The fact Orgeron publicly expressed his interest the the top job here would seem to make the AHC scenario less likely. But hey ya never know.

 

[Crusty]

The coach killer thing is in the past. When we were in the Big East i could see it. Now we are in the ACC we have a new IPF we have a very young team with solid talent we are about to turn the dome into one of the best venues in all of college sports and the east coast is open for business as Rutger, Maryland, and others are down. This is the reason that Coyle took the job. He will find a great coach and put together a world class staff. These guys are all in and it is going to show

That may be our view, but not the media or coaching community. It is not likely to change until we actually, rather than prospectively, become competitive. Everyone has or is improving facilities and coaches can climb the ladder from AAC schools easier than from our division.

This is not an easy hire.

 

[cuse309]

I have to imagine/hope, that Coyle put out his feelers, and started networking prior to his decision to let Shafer go. I have to imagine/hope that he has at least a couple of candidates that showed high interest enough to dismiss Shafer.

That being said: I don't believe Orgeron has even been contacted by Coyle due to the fact that Orgeron publicly stated he would have high interest in the job. Usually when a coach has been contacted about a coaching job, and the media brings it up to them, they blatantly lie and state that "School Y has not been in touch with me, and at this time I'm only interested in being the coach here at school B" We've heard it time and time again from h.c's and assistant coaches, only to read on the ESPN ticker 12 hrs later that the same coach was just announced as the new coach at school B.

Orgerons comments felt more to me like a public announcement that he would like to coach here, or at least be considered. He is after all going to need a job once Miles is bought out. I feel if Coyle had contacted him, and he was a serious candidate, that he would have recited the typical line from above.

Maybe Ed. has a different way of doing things than others though...

EDIT: I realized after I poted this, that this point has already been brought up.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

This is not an easy hire.

Especially because the pool is limited by the number of guys who would actually accept the job, not the ones the fans want SU to hire.

 

[JKinPhilly]

My completely uneducated guess is that Orgeron's agent has been contacted to gauge interest, but Orgeron himself has not spoken directly with anyone from SU. I also think that Orgeron is making his interest clear, but also setting the expectation of what level job he's looking for (HC again, not a coordinator or line coach) knowing his days at LSU are numbered.

 

[SUFan44]

My completely uneducated guess is that Orgeron's agent has been contacted to gauge interest, but Orgeron himself has not spoken directly with anyone from SU. I also think that Orgeron is making his interest clear, but also setting the expectation of what level job he's looking for (HC again, not a coordinator or line coach) knowing his days at LSU are numbered.

I don't think becoming a head coach after being let go as a defensive line coach is going to come to fruition anywhere. No inside info, but that seems like an unrealistic expectation.

 

[TheCusian]

I don't think becoming a head coach after being let go as a defensive line coach is going to come to fruition anywhere. No inside info, but that seems like an unrealistic expectation.

Context. Most agree LSU is kind of nuts for letting go of Miles. It's not like the DL wasn't good.

 

[Crusty]

Coach O would most likely be retained by whomever replaces Miles if it happens.