Enough Excuse Making

[Crusty]

if we are working within the same football coaching staff budget He maybe. This year is a complete waste except getting some young guys some experience

Good Lord, I hope that is not the case. We make an extra $20 million and we can't afford mid-level ACC salaries?!!! Please tell me that isn't so.

 

[Chris02M]

I still dislike short kicking it!

we need a biglegged kickoff guy. wonder if theat punter we have recruited for next year can kick deep.

 

[Chris02M]

Good Lord, I hope that is not the case. We make an extra $20 million and we can't afford mid-level ACC salaries?!!! Please tell me that isn't so.

that's the million dollar question,wouldn't surprise me if we used it partially towards ipf, pay other debt off ,repay bigeast buyout to school

 

[CanadianSU]

we need a biglegged kickoff guy. wonder if theat punter we have recruited for next year can kick deep.

And a specials coach maybe

 

[boog7]

you are being a bit overly dramatic we are no where near grob days. We would struggle to beat terrible teams in grob days...

So you're saying things are better b/c we don't struggle to beat terrible teams now? If that were even true, which it isn't (SEE: 'Nova), exactly how low is the bar set if that's what we're using as a measure of improvement? That's like saying 'we stink slightly less now so things are better.' The point is: we stink again. We play bad, ugly football just like we did when GRob was here. Under Shafer, we've regressed and rejoined the ranks of losing college football programs after Marrone had successfully liberated us from that group.

...this year we were beaten by attrition, acc and inexperience offensively after Hunt went down. NC State is the only game id say we lost that we were the more talented team. Pitt and Maryland have more offensive talent at skill guys otherwise its close

Those are all EXCUSES and there are no acceptable excuses when you're lucky to finish 3-9 instead of what you should've been, 2-10. Excuses are for losers. All coaches face various adversities during the course of a season. Good coaches overcome them and win in spite of them. Bad coaches, unable to combat the adversities they face, succumb to them and lose. Like GRob before him, Shafer is a bad head coach and we are now back to being perceived as a losing program.

The question is, do we want add to that perception by bringing Shafer back for what is almost certain to be another losing season? Or do we show that we are seriously committed to being a winning program, correct the Shafer mistake and hire someone who can get the job done?

 

[Chris02M]

So you're saying things are better b/c we don't struggle to beat terrible teams now? If that were even true, which it isn't (SEE: 'Nova), exactly how low is the bar set if that's what we're using as a measure of improvement? That's like saying 'we stink slightly less now so things are better.' The point is: we stink again. We play bad, ugly football just like we did when GRob was here. Under Shafer, we've regressed and rejoined the ranks of losing college football programs after Marrone had successfully liberated us from that group.

Those are all EXCUSES and there are no acceptable excuses when you're lucky to finish 3-9 instead of what you should've been, 2-10. Excuses are for losers. All coaches face various adversities during the course of a season. Good coaches overcome them and win in spite of them. Bad coaches, unable to combat the adversities they face, succumb to them and lose. Like GRob before him, Shafer is a bad head coach and we are now back to being perceived as a losing program.

The question is, do we want add to that perception by bringing Shafer back for what is almost certain to be another losing season? Or do we show that we are seriously committed to being a winning program, correct the Shafer mistake and hire someone who can get the job done?

enough with the bs nova game hunt doesn't get tossed we win by double digits. Everyone going gaga over cutcliffe and addazio they had losing years too. Last year against any decent team we lost by a shitload, this year we have been competitive in almost every game. Acc middle pack is also better than it was last year and last year we were fortunate to win 7 games

 

[Chris02M]

its not an excuse when you lose 25% of your roster to injuries

 

[Chris02M]

And a specials coach maybe

id rather the coaching slot available be used to get another offensive coach with some experience than use it on special teams

 

[CanadianSU]

id rather the coaching slot available be used to get another offensive coach with some experience than use it on special teams

Our specials have been issue for a while though : (

 

[OrangePA]

enough with the bs nova game hunt doesn't get tossed we win by double digits. Everyone going gaga over cutcliffe and addazio they had losing years too. Last year against any decent team we lost by a shitload, this year we have been competitive in almost every game. Acc middle pack is also better than it was last year and last year we were fortunate to win 7 games

Hunt did not play defense.

Nova controlled the ball the entire game.

And the Cats marched down the field I think with 5 to 7 minutes to go, soaked the clock, and set up a winning FG with seconds to go.

That had nothing to do with Hunt.

 

[OrangeinBoston]

Hunt did not play defense.

Nova controlled the ball the entire game.

And the Cats marched down the field I think with 5 to 7 minutes to go, soaked the clock, and set up a winning FG with seconds to go.

That had nothing to do with Hunt.

Absolutely. Total lack of preparation for Villanova. That game was a huge red flag waving that things had gone drasticly awry.

 

[Crusty]

Hunt did not play defense.

Nova controlled the ball the entire game.

And the Cats marched down the field I think with 5 to 7 minutes to go, soaked the clock, and set up a winning FG with seconds to go.

That had nothing to do with Hunt.

Nova is 93rd and we are 86th on Sagarin ratings. .

 

[Chris02M]

Hunt did not play defense.

Nova controlled the ball the entire game.

And the Cats marched down the field I think with 5 to 7 minutes to go, soaked the clock, and set up a winning FG with seconds to go.

That had nothing to do with Hunt.

defense only gave up 10 pts for entire 4 quarters. Them controlling the clockl = loss is like saying because we had 589 yards of offense vs Maryland then we win

 

[Millhouse]

That is so over the top. It's a bad season. The offense has been bad to horrible all year but this program is not back to where it was under Robinson, that's ridiculous. The roster is much, much better. The defense is good and the offense was able to run well and generate yards, if not points, until Hunt got hurt. There's no need for wholesale changes, the focus needs to be fixing the offense.

We don't need wholesale changes, we just need a new offense, new special teams, new game management, and new recruiters

 

[Chris02M]

We don't need wholesale changes, we just need a new offense, new special teams, new game management, and new recruiters

recruiting is fine looking at another top 50 class

 

[Scooch]

recruiting is fine looking at another top 50 class

Recruiting isn't fine.

 

[Chris02M]

Recruiting isn't fine.

better than under marrone

 

[NineOneSeven]

This thread doe

 

[NineOneSeven]

*runs to microwave popcorn*

 

[Scooch]

better than under marrone

Low bar.

 

[boog7]

enough with the bs nova game hunt doesn't get tossed we win by double digits.

Enough with the bs excuses. If there wasn't a QB on the roster capable of replacing the injured starter who's fault is that?

Coming into the season with a running QB and knowing the injury risks associated with that, shouldn't the staff have prepared for the eventuality of TH going down by having a serviceable back up ready to go? The plan (if that's what you want to call it) was to come into the season with two true freshmen and two redshirt freshman, who have never taken a snap in a college football game, as your back-ups? Brilliant personnel management, Coach (sarcasm intended).

When evaluating their roster after last season, why didn't they have the foresight to bring in an immediately eligible transfer or JUCO QB with some experience so they wouldn't be in the position of having to rush green youngsters onto the field? They've all demonstrated this year that they're not yet ready to be a starting QB in a P5 conference. So why wasn't there a better plan is place? I can answer this. Because, like so many of Shafer's decisions since becoming HC, it was a poorly thought out one. It's called roster mismanagement.

Last year against any decent team we lost by a shitload, this year we have been competitive in almost every game.

But we still lost. At the end of the day, you're judged by wins and losses, not margins of defeat. Various, fluctuating gradations of bad still add up to bad in the final equation, or in Shafer's case, a "lucky" 3-9.

 

[Crusty]

Enough with the bs excuses. If there wasn't a QB on the roster capable of replacing the injured starter who's fault is that?

Coming into the season with a running QB and knowing the injury risks associated with that, shouldn't the staff have prepared for the eventuality of TH going down by having a serviceable back up ready to go? The plan (if that's what you want to call it) was to come into the season with two true freshmen and two redshirt freshman, who have never taken a snap in a college football game, as your back-ups? Brilliant personnel management, Coach (sarcasm intended).

When evaluating their roster after last season, why didn't they have the foresight to bring in an immediately eligible transfer or JUCO QB with some experience so they wouldn't be in the position of having to rush green youngsters onto the field? They've all demonstrated this year that they're not yet ready to be a starting QB in a P5 conference. So why wasn't there a better plan is place? I can answer this. Because, like so many of Shafer's decisions since becoming HC, it was a poorly thought out one. It's called roster mismanagement.


But we still lost. At the end of the day, you're judged by wins and losses, not margins of defeat. Various, fluctuating gradations of bad still add up to bad in the final equation, or in Shafer's case, a "lucky" 3-9.

What bring in 21 JUCO's? Maybe you could lend then your crystal ball so they would know which positions that were going to suffer injuries.

The QB that started and his backup were recruited by Marrone. Shafer only had one class and he recruited two QB's. Which jUCO QB's were available? Any JUCO QB would not know our system and would be another Drew Allen at best.

I am sorry but this post makes no sense whatsoever.

 

[TheCusian]

Our coaches had two weeks to get ready for Pitt. That game plan was awful and leads me to believe that they are not good enough to ever get the job done no matter how well they recruit. Not only that but Shafer quit yesterday with that punt. I don't want a coach to ever quit on the team because this team has not quit on him. Very unprofessional from Shafer and his staff yesterday.

The punt was meaningless. We were down three scores with 4 minutes left.

The most overblown punt in Cuse history.

 

[phil77]

The punt was meaningless. We were down three scores with 4 minutes left.

The most overblown punt in Cuse history.

hardnosed coaches don't quit ever...

 

[TheCusian]

Hunt did not play defense. Nova controlled the ball the entire game. And the Cats marched down the field I think with 5 to 7 minutes to go, soaked the clock, and set up a winning FG with seconds to go. That had nothing to do with Hunt.

We. Won. The. Game.

Nebraska had the same thing happen to them. They are fine.

Let it go.