Face Facts

[Jack_Ball]

Syracuse is not willing to spend the money necessary to compete in football...When Iowa State, VA, Houston, UCF etc... are either willing or already pay more for a head coach than we do? What chance is there for Syracuse to win games and be successful? This has been going on far too long for any of us to expect any type of change? We hire the best available cheap hire we can get then get cheap on assistants and wonder why we don't win when AAC teams are spending double we do? We will never win with this type of attitude and commitment & seems that the university is fine with that

Soooo frustrating...I don't think I can take it any longer as we will never win...Once Syracuse stops being hypocritical and spends some money on coaches then I again will start spending money on Syracuse Athletics...

 

[rhcuse]

Syracuse is not willing to spend the money necessary to compete in football...When Iowa State, VA, Houston, UCF etc... are either willing or already pay more for a head coach than we do? What chance is there for Syracuse to win games and be successful? This has been going on far too long for any of us to expect any type of change? We hire the best available cheap hire we can get then get cheap on assistants and wonder why we don't win when AAC teams are spending double we do? We will never win with this type of attitude and commitment & seems that the university is fine with that

Soooo frustrating...I don't think I can take it any longer as we will never win...Once Syracuse stops being hypocritical and spends some money on coaches then I again will start spending money on Syracuse Athletics...

Where is the hypocrisy? Has SU ever stated they are committed to spending big money to build and sustain a Top 25 football team?

 

[dasher]

Syracuse is not willing to spend the money necessary to compete in football...When Iowa State, VA, Houston, UCF etc... are either willing or already pay more for a head coach than we do? What chance is there for Syracuse to win games and be successful? This has been going on far too long for any of us to expect any type of change? We hire the best available cheap hire we can get then get cheap on assistants and wonder why we don't win when AAC teams are spending double we do? We will never win with this type of attitude and commitment & seems that the university is fine with that

Soooo frustrating...I don't think I can take it any longer as we will never win...Once Syracuse stops being hypocritical and spends some money on coaches then I again will start spending money on Syracuse Athletics...

Please name the AAC schools that spend twice what we do on coaching.

 

[storange]

Do you know what we are offering.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

As long as you have all the facts:

How much did Syracuse offer Frost?

How much did UCF offer Frost?

How favorable were the buyout terms that will allow Frost to leave for Nebraska in 2 years?

 

[orangeinjersey]

Do you know what we are offering.

The level of candidates rumored to be interviewing clearly indicates what range we are offering. We're shopping at Kohls, not Barneys

 

[Jack_Ball]

Where is the hypocrisy? Has SU ever stated they are committed to spending big money to build and sustain a Top 25 football team?

Its hypocrisy to constantly call and email me to spend money on SU athletics while they don't..

 

[Crusty]

Please name the AAC schools that spend twice what we do on coaching.

More than half of them do.

 

[Jack_Ball]

Please name the AAC schools that spend twice what we do on coaching.

Houston just payed Herman $3 million per year...We were paying Shafe half that

 

[tep624]

This deserved it's own dedicated thread?

 

[Jack_Ball]

I hope i'm wrong but most of these Power 5 schools are hiring HC with prior exp...Have we even interviewed anyone with prior HC exp?

 

[721Comstock]

Houston just payed Herman $3 million per year...We were paying Shafe half that

WERE being the operative word.

 

[Jack_Ball]

This deserved it's own dedicated thread?

I guess not...U can Nuk (hopkins) it if u want

 

[bevosu]

SU ranks among bottom-third of power-five schools in football spending

http://www.syracuse.com/orangefootb...ools_in_football_spending.html#incart_m-rpt-1

 

[Jack_Ball]

WERE being the operative word.

I hope that's the case as I'm an alum and don't have any other team to root for...But if we hire Ash I don;t see us paying $500k per OC & DC

 

[orangenirvana]

It's not a money issue. Syracuse doesn't need to throw gazillions at a guy to hire the right guy for this program. They just have to be smarter than the competition.

 

[storange]

The level of candidates rumored to be interviewing clearly indicates what range we are offering. We're shopping at Kohls, not Barneys

Ok who should we have been interviewing ?

 

[orangeinjersey]

Please name the AAC schools that spend twice what we do on coaching.

Tubberville is making $3.143M a year
Hermann $3M
George OLeary $2.25M
Morris $2.2M
Navy Coach $1.75M
Taggart $1.6M
Diaco $1.6M
Ruhle $1.5M
McNeill $1.5M
SCOTT SHAFER $1.5M
Fuentes $1.4M
Johnson $1M
Montgomery $700k

 

[orangeinjersey]

Ok who should we have been interviewing ?

Why cant we be interviewing Mullen? Or Richt? 2 guys who are looking for work. 2 guys who have PROVEN SUCCESS. I'll tell you why, SU doesnt want to spend $4M a year, thats why

 

[Crusty]

Tubberville is making $3.143M a year
Hermann $3M
George OLeary $2.25M
Morris $2.2M
Navy Coach $1.75M
Taggart $1.6M
Diaco $1.6M
Ruhle $1.5M
McNeill $1.5M
SCOTT SHAFER $1.5M
Fuentes $1.4M
Johnson $1M
Montgomery $700k

The median total staff budget (including HC) in the ACC is $6+ million. We spent $2.8

 

[GoSU96]

More than half of them do.

Huh,

Tubbs makes 2.4, Morris makes 2, and a Herman just got a big extension.

Not sure how that is more than half.

 

[dasher]

Tubberville is making $3.143M a year
Hermann $3M
George OLeary $2.25M
Morris $2.2M
Navy Coach $1.75M
Taggart $1.6M
Diaco $1.6M
Ruhle $1.5M
McNeill $1.5M
SCOTT SHAFER $1.5M
Fuentes $1.4M
Johnson $1M
Montgomery $700k

I said coaches. Not just Head coach.

 

[Crusty]

Huh,

Tubbs makes 2.4, Morris makes 2, and a Herman just got a big extension.

Not sure how that is more than half.

The median total staff budget (including HC) in the ACC is $6+ million. We spent $2.8

 

[dasher]

The median total staff budget (including HC) in the ACC is $6+ million. We spent $2.8

I was referring to the guy that said the AAC spends twice what we do. Not other ACC teams.

 

[Crusty]

It's not a money issue. Syracuse doesn't need to throw gazillions at a guy to hire the right guy for this program. They just have to be smarter than the competition.

Really How are we doing so far?