Face Facts

[reedny]

The median total staff budget (including HC) in the ACC is $6+ million. We spent $2.8

And we're going to have to spend to bring in ACC-level coaching talent and resurrect our fan base. Our FB program made $41M last year. What is the issue with another $1-2M?

 

[Crusty]

I was referring to the guy that said the AAC spends twice what we do. Not other ACC teams.

The point is we are not competitive.

 

[orangenirvana]

Really How are we doing so far?

I'll let you know when the hire is official.

 

[Crusty]

And we're going to have to resurrect our fan base. Our FB program made $41M last year. What is the issue with another $1-2M?

Exactly!

 

[dasher]

The point is we are not competitive.

Your point. And I agree we are not. But the poster said that the AAC schools spends twice what we do and I don't think that is close to true.

 

[Crusty]

Your point. And I agree we are not. But the poster said that the AAC schools spends twice what we do and I don't think that is close to true.

I don't know if it is or not, but in general staff is 75% to 100% or so of the HC salary.

 

[Jack_Ball]

Your point. And I agree we are not. But the poster said that the AAC schools spends twice what we do and I don't think that is close to true.

I responded earlier in the thread the Houston pays Herman $3 million while we paid Shafe half that...Cincy pays thier HC almost double we paid Shafe...

 

[VirginiaOrange]

Houston just payed Herman $3 million per year...We were paying Shafe half that

And getting less than half as many wins.

 

[storange]

Why cant we be interviewing Mullen? Or Richt? 2 guys who are looking for work. 2 guys who have PROVEN SUCCESS. I'll tell you why, SU doesnt want to spend $4M a year, thats why

I dont think Richt is coming here for any price. Imo

 

[VirginiaOrange]

Face facts - none of the head coaches I assume you longed over were coming to SU regardless of whether or not SU offered more money. The only way SU gets any of the top choices is to pay way more to get them to Syracuse. Some of the names thrown around out here are hilarious pipe dreams. If you want to face facts, start with SU not being a destination any of the "names" dream about.

 

[JrodCuse]

we haven't hired our coach yet...,What people

 

[VirginiaOrange]

Why cant we be interviewing Mullen? Or Richt? 2 guys who are looking for work. 2 guys who have PROVEN SUCCESS. I'll tell you why, SU doesnt want to spend $4M a year, thats why

$4M? You realize that $4M is more than 112 of the 128 coaches make? And Richt is going to go from a top SEC program to a rebuild? Crazy.

And Shafer was almost dead in the middle. Yet he performed in the bottom 25% so some might argue that SU was spending way too much.

 

[reedny]

$4M? You realize that $4M is more than 112 of the 128 coaches make? And Richt is going to go from a top SEC program to a rebuild? Crazy.

And Shafer was almost dead in the middle. Yet he performed in the bottom 25% so some might argue that SU was spending way too much.

An SEC program that he just got fired from, to a school that would be very happy to get to the same level using the delicious recruiting streams that this guy has developed over the years.

 

[MikeSU02]

$1.2 million offer for Frost.

We aren't even close to big boy ball.

http://www.syracuse.com/orangefootball/index.ssf/2015/12/syracuse_offered_scott_frost_job_before_he_accepted_central_florida_offer_report.html

 

[orangeinjersey]

$1.2 million offer for Frost.

We aren't even close to big boy ball.

http://www.syracuse.com/orangefootball/index.ssf/2015/12/syracuse_offered_scott_frost_job_before_he_accepted_central_florida_offer_report.html

confirmation of dumpster diving. there we go folks. no commitment. we're not even in play for ruhle etc at these pay levels. Should have just kept shafe

 

[JrodCuse]

We don't even know that the 1.2 is a fact holy crap. It could be 1.2 base with 2+ million in incentives or it can just be utter bs from an unnamed anonymous source and the PS is doing their typical negative news story.

 

[Crusty]

We don't even know that the 1.2 is a fact holy crap. It could be 1.2 base with 2+ million in incentives or it can just be utter bs from an unnamed anonymous source and the PS is doing their typical negative news story.

You are in denial.

 

[orangeinjersey]

We don't even know that the 1.2 is a fact holy crap. It could be 1.2 base with 2+ million in incentives or it can just be utter bs from an unnamed anonymous source and the PS is doing their typical negative news story.

Tell me what incentive the Oregonian has to post that? Get your head out of the sand.

 

[Statesman1]

SU ranks among bottom-third of power-five schools in football spending

http://www.syracuse.com/orangefootb...ools_in_football_spending.html#incart_m-rpt-1

What a strange coincidence. We also rank among the bottom third of schools that regularly does not qualify for a bowl. We are pathetic.

 

[bpo57]

The only surprise to me is that people here are surprised that SU is tight with the buck. That's been the case for a long, long time.

 

[nzm136]

Not spending real money is COSTING the school money. Whoever is in charge of the budget is a moron. It's cheaper to spend a couple million more and get results. Winning attracts fans, donations, merchandise/concessions, and so on. There's a reason why top tier coach salaries are shooting through the roof. That reason is because they're incredibly undervalued right now. If we get ahead of the curve and buy a competent staff, we can make money.

 

[rrlbees]

The only surprise to me is that people here are surprised that SU is tight with the buck. That's been the case for a long, long time.

The only surprise to me is that people don't know that that money plus whatever incentives is about what a first year HC should get.

 

[Czar]

The only surprise to me is that people don't know that that money plus whatever incentives is about what a first year HC should get.

The market seems to dictate otherwise.

 

[RF2044]

The market seems to dictate otherwise.

Not for first time, unproven HC's.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

In case this gets missed from the other thread...

Mike M
I was told the number Syracuse offered Frost was actually around $1.8-$2.0 million in base salary. Issue wasn’t money it was years. Frost wanted a 2 year contract, Syracuse wanted a 5 year contract. That was the impasse. Syracuse would not go to 2 years.