Yea this is where I'm at as an average fan that went to school with the legends. Melo, GMac, Hak, Pace, Duaney and the rest. It's not just wins and losses it's to who and how. There is little to no confidence, leadership or killer instinct around Jim Boeheim court and there hasn't been for some time whether the old man or Autry.Guys it’s simple for those wondering - red is gone even if he makes the tourney. He has to win a game in the tourney to keep his job. This was told to me this summer. So you will have your answer no matter what at the end of the year when the time comes what to look for
Iowa St was the first nail although they look like a 1 seed in the tourney now so maybe it's a half nail.
After tonight this is basically Joe Pesci getting the call from Goodfellas. He just hasn't shown up to the basement yet.