Fire Autry

[OrangeinBoston]

Fair enough. But at the very least it sends a message that you're in charge and will not, even at the risk of losing a game, tolerate lazy bs play from your team
Call me old school, but we've seemed to get away from HCs who lose their isht on a regular basis. The winners like Kirby, Hurley, etc., they don't hesitate to stake their claim as the Alpha in the program. No one's asking for indiscriminate buffoonery, but danmit, how about some good old-fashioned chewing out every once on a while?
I hoped to see Red send a message this year, early and often, that certain things were not gonna be tolerated on the court. One or 2 lazy passes...sit your azz down. No hustling on defense, sit your azz down. Bad shot outside of the offense, sit your azz down!
That being said, I've come to the conclusion that Red just doesn't have that in him. JMHO

Fair enough.

 

[OrlandoCuse]

Given the thread title and the posters most vocal here.

How many wins in ACC play would it take to get him back?

It seems to be the bridge has been burned but would 15-3 get you to givd him another year? 14-4?

General consensus is that Red has to make the NCAAT at a minimum to keep his job. Others have stated that he also needs to win a NCAAT game to keep his job.

In order to make the NCAAT, or at least be on the bubble, we have to 9-3 the rest of the way, excluding any ACCT run.

Looking at our remaining schedule, it’s very unlikely we will be able to go 9-3. I think we’ll struggle to go 6-6.

So the conclusion that every reasonable fan as reached is Red will be fired at the end of the year and we need to start looking at new HC options.

 

[sufan59]

Could be technical difficulties, they said they will try to get Red at the end of the conference call.

 

[FloridaCuse]

Could be technical difficulties, they said they will try to get Red at the end of the conference call.

He read this thread?

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

Yes, I get that. But how is JB holding the program hostage now? Did he make the decision to not make a change after last year? Or to make a change now?

Okay, so... apparently you don't get it because I explained that. Maybe direct these additional questions at the poster you were responding to?

 

[Cusefan69]

Probably in name only. To give him a place and ease being retired.

Which is fine with Red having had taken the helm. Honestly once we go outside "the family " he should be quietly let go. Syracuse did him a solid which is great but once Red is gone, I would move JB out as well so the future coach does not run into any "stuff".

 

[sufan59]

Still employed

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

Given the thread title and the posters most vocal here.

How many wins in ACC play would it take to get him back?

It seems to be the bridge has been burned but would 15-3 get you to givd him another year? 14-4?

He needs a tourney run, and I'm not talking about the ACCT.

Talk about how many ACC wins is meaningless. It's about WHO the wins and losses are against. Winning at Duke will be a nice feather in his cap en route to the unemployment line if he keeps losing to the BCs of the world. Even to casual fans, the team seems undisciplined and poorly coached. Some players have significantly regressed after performing well elsewhere.

Syracuse will forever doom itself to irrelevance if they settle for "meh" because Red is an alumnus. Even in the current age of NIL, the stature of a program cannot just be bought... but it can be destroyed. The university needs to continue setting high standards for its flagship program while it's still in a good position to do so.

Much easier to lose stature than get it back (amirite SU football?!)

 

[JarHeadJim]

 

[Cuse1055]

Sadly he showed up at 1:10.

 

[Cuse99&01]

Could be technical difficulties, they said they will try to get Red at the end of the conference call.

I was told he was busy and deep in thought with fine tuning his offensive schemes at that time and didn't want to be bothered.

 

[RedtheGOB]

He needs a tourney run, and I'm not talking about the ACCT.

Talk about how many ACC wins is meaningless. It's about WHO the wins and losses are against. Winning at Duke will be a nice feather in his cap en route to the unemployment line if he keeps losing to the BCs of the world. Even to casual fans, the team seems undisciplined and poorly coached. Some players have significantly regressed after performing well elsewhere.

Syracuse will forever doom itself to irrelevance if they settle for "meh" because Red is an alumnus. Even in the current age of NIL, the stature of a program cannot just be bought... but it can be destroyed. The university needs to continue setting high standards for its flagship program while it's still in a good position to do so.

Much easier to lose stature than get it back (amirite SU football?!)

Yea this was what I expected to hear mostly so appreciate the post.

A long ACCT run or an 8-9 or even a 6-7 seed tourney seed with an early departure doesn’t seem to do too much either to appease the anger.

There’s just so much bad blood and straight up anger.