Class of 2020 G Kadary Richmond (NY/Brewster Academy) Portal to St Johns

[Digger]

Fwiw, heard we were around the 400-500k market for Kadary..

 

[two3zone]

I pay zero. I will never pay NIL. It’s a matter of principle. If the team never wins another championship or isn’t competitive at the levels that I like because I didn’t contribute, so be it. Maybe I’ll deal with that, maybe I’ll just have to find another passion—after 40 years…. I’m still going to discuss NIL, recruiting that involves it, and various other peripheral matters. I may gripe about the system and value and related concepts. I won’t complain about whether we are paying enough or whether we have enough to pay. But there’s a fine line between the two sides.

This is all just insanely stupid, but I recognize that stupidity very frequently becomes the natural order of things in ‘culture.’ Doesn’t mean that I have to fall in line with it. Just that I have to live with the consequences of choosing a different direction.

Amazing, that this started because schools were making money and players thought they had a right to a share in it. And now, it doesn’t matter how much the schools profit, it’s the fans who have to pay. Maybe it gives some of you a closer sense of participation in the program and some sort of bond to the people you buy, and if that’s it, good for you.

Maybe the Yankees will start calling fans around the trade deadline, gotta shore up some funds to get that extra piece.

Fans investing into players is a 100% loss. Unless you're swinging around Vitamin Water or whatever business money around and you can play fantasy sports and get your jollys off with the big year. But for me, and I'm guessing a lot on here, it would be very difficult to part with 5-10k especially considering the amount I spend already.

Who makes out best if we're good? Not the people footing the bill. The university, the coach, the players, the program, the acc, and the ncaa are the ones who benefit.

I've pretty much cut out every sport from regular watching including the 15 college games a week at a minimum I used to watch, I can cut out 30 games and move on with life or when the sport stabilizes. Whatever is going on now is awful.

 

[two3zone]

Fwiw, heard we were around the 400-500k market for Kadary..

Like showing up at Starbucks with a 5 dollar bill.


I wanna know who didn't take our 600k then.

 

[two3zone]

It just makes sense statistically. 98% of the alumni of any school go to the school purely for academics. 1-2% are athletes, even less than that at some of these huge public universities. Where Syracuse should have an advantage is with Newhouse as it relates to sports fans trying to become broadcasters. I would guess that a large portion of the students who attend games are there for the social aspect of it. I would guess 90% is even a low number.

You're probably right, I was thinking it may be higher.

 

[Orangefan1]

Maybe we are better off in the long run people

 

[Zelda Zonk]

Maybe the Yankees will start calling fans around the trade deadline, gotta shore up some funds to get that extra piece.

Fans investing into players is a 100% loss. Unless you're swinging around Vitamin Water or whatever business money around and you can play fantasy sports and get your jollys off with the big year. But for me, and I'm guessing a lot on here, it would be very difficult to part with 5-10k especially considering the amount I spend already.

Who makes out best if we're good? Not the people footing the bill. The university, the coach, the players, the program, the acc, and the ncaa are the ones who benefit.

I've pretty much cut out every sport from regular watching including the 15 college games a week at a minimum I used to watch, I can cut out 30 games and move on with life or when the sport stabilizes. Whatever is going on now is awful.

I wouldn’t say it’s a 100% loss. I don’t identify with it, but I can understand how a fan paying into a NIL fund makes them feel like a ‘shareholder’ in the program. I can understand people wanting to be ‘micro boosters’ and having tangible effect on a program. If you can get satisfaction from that, that’s not a loss. It goes against what i believe in, but I’m not going to judge it. It’s the way of the world. I think selfies are insidious and vulgar and stupid, but who am I to judge?

If I were a local binnisman, and had a cereal or a car dealership or a carpet cleaning biz and could benefit from a player’s endorsement or appearances, sure—pony up and look for some ROI. Or, if you’re an upstate billionaire and want to buy your way into Salt City Celebrity—what better way? But, 3,000 miles away and too old to just accept every ridiculous trend or fad or culture shift—no, this is not for me.

And look what it has done already. Pitted fans against each other. I despise tribalism. Represents primitive minds. And already we’ve got the sowing of more division—those who pay vs those who don’t. And the added kicker: if you don’t pay, you have no right to express an opinion. So, if I don’t check the little box on my tax forms, and don’t donate $5 to a political party, I surrender the right to vote or discuss politics?

Weird stuff—people were prideful about throwing money into a portal transfer’s coffers AFTER we thought we had him. Which I don’t understand. If NiL is an inducement to come and be Our Mercenary, what’s the incentive to give him more money after he’s already accepted the offer? To be able to say you’re responsible for gassing up his G-Wagon for two weeks?

Ick.

But, yeah, as you said, it’s the schools and NCAA who must be giddy at the situation. Somehow, for their benefit, it’s no longer even about the player’s name, image, or likeness. How did that get perverted so quickly?

 

[hoopsupstate]

Fwiw, heard we were around the 400-500k market for Kadary..

I would say that’s about right. Some if the numbers being thrown around are totally out of whack. He’s a good player, but not a difference maker. Personally, I’m not disappointed in not getting him. We don’t need another ball dominating guard who can’t shoot and takes plays off on defense. It sounds too familiar to what we just got done watching. I want another wing shooter. We have five solid guards who will demand playing time. We need another frontcourt player. Carlos, JJ, Chance, Moore and Cuffe will be Just fine. They all bring something a little different to the table.

 

[SUFan44]

I would say that’s about right. Some if the numbers being thrown around are totally out of whack. He’s a good player, but not a difference maker. Personally, I’m not disappointed in not getting him. We don’t need another ball dominating guard who can’t shoot and takes plays off on defense. It sounds too familiar to what we just got done watching. I want another wing shooter. We have five solid guards who will demand playing time. We need another frontcourt player. Carlos, JJ, Chance, Moore and Cuffe will be Just fine. They all bring something a little different to the table.

Not a difference maker?! He could be Big East Preseason Player of the Year! He was 1st Team All-Big East last year. And he was a difference maker in his one season for us. That’s crazy talk.

 

[Sdot]

What’s crazy is if 6,000 people donated 10 $ a month then that is 720,000 $… do we not have 6k people donating as it is??

 

[jordoo]

What’s crazy is if 6,000 people donated 10 $ a month then that is 720,000 $… do we not have 6k people donating as it is??

There is more than one player to pay. But in general I think we are on the short side of where we need to be with NIL money.

 

[FrancoPizza]

What’s crazy is if 6,000 people donated 10 $ a month then that is 720,000 $… do we not have 6k people donating as it is??

When schools are allowed to pay players this will just become a ticket surcharge

 

[Sdot]

There is more than one player to pay. But in general I think we are on the short side of where we need to be with NIL money.

Oh absolutely but 6k people alone plus some big time donors should of been more then enough I think problem is for basketball we don’t really have any heavy hitters

 

[Grbac]

If we need NIL money why doesn’t Red go hit up Melo, Jerami Grant, Waiters, Etan, etc. We have resources right at our fingertips. We have scrap metal money if things can be repaired. CEO’s, Presidents literally.
It’s not like we are a baron wasteland of poverty.
Get on the phone and sell these guys on the program, the direction, get them involved.
It can definitely be done.

 

[jsshap]

We have to stop labeling NIL as a skill set that the coaching staff is not accountable for cultivating. Expectations need to be raised if this program wants to meet the “standard” that Wildhack has put in writing.

Thank you for doing your part to keep expectations raised. If only others understood that.

 

[gmoney44]

You are correct that it’s purely about money. So Syracuse better figure out how to pay an absurd amount or kiss any dream of being a bball power goodbye.

If only we had a billionaire willing help with NIL.

 

[RyanCuse44]

Bulldog literally says in this thread a few pages before that this was purely about the money.

It was. It was whomever had the bigger bag between St. Johns and Okl.

 

[CousCuse]

Kadary doesn't really fit the profile of a Pitino player. He needs to lose about 30lbs to play the kind of fast paced pressure D that Rick prefers. I think his minutes are going to be lower than he expects.

 

[two3zone]

If only we had a billionaire willing help with NIL.

They usually don't randomly show up out of nowhere.








Let alone twice.

 

[Cuse181]

If only we had a billionaire willing help with NIL.

nah, good riddance. I’d rather have a losing basketball team have them be the mouth piece for some overconfident business owner.

 

[SWC75]

Maybe the Yankees will start calling fans around the trade deadline, gotta shore up some funds to get that extra piece.

Fans investing into players is a 100% loss. Unless you're swinging around Vitamin Water or whatever business money around and you can play fantasy sports and get your jollys off with the big year. But for me, and I'm guessing a lot on here, it would be very difficult to part with 5-10k especially considering the amount I spend already.

Who makes out best if we're good? Not the people footing the bill. The university, the coach, the players, the program, the acc, and the ncaa are the ones who benefit.

I've pretty much cut out every sport from regular watching including the 15 college games a week at a minimum I used to watch, I can cut out 30 games and move on with life or when the sport stabilizes. Whatever is going on now is awful.

Pro fans don't have to pay their players directly. Now college fans are being asked to do so, so the players can make 10 times what they do.

 

[SWC75]

I would say that’s about right. Some if the numbers being thrown around are totally out of whack. He’s a good player, but not a difference maker. Personally, I’m not disappointed in not getting him. We don’t need another ball dominating guard who can’t shoot and takes plays off on defense. It sounds too familiar to what we just got done watching. I want another wing shooter. We have five solid guards who will demand playing time. We need another frontcourt player. Carlos, JJ, Chance, Moore and Cuffe will be Just fine. They all bring something a little different to the table.

We bemoan the loss or failure to get a player until the position here is adequately filled. Carlos surrounded by 2 Mickey Dees, Bell and Lampkin could adequately fill it Chance, who seems a clone of Quadir in his highlights, could adequately fill it. And we don't know who else they are going to get.

 

[littlereg]

It was. It was whomever had the bigger bag between St. Johns and Okl.

Jake said something that inferred it wasn’t just money so it’s hard to believe one specific thing over the other when our insiders here aren’t aligned on it either. And that’s not a shot at anyone it’s just the reality sometimes people get different information.

 

[Bayside44]

I dated a girl who went to SU for 4 years and never watched a game until she watched one with me and probably never watched another after we stopped talking. Dated a girl who went SU law when i lived out in Vegas, same thing.

I'm guessing 90% or more of the alumni couldn't name the head football or basketball coach let alone opening the wallet to make some 20 year old rich.

Agree with this. Generations of alumni and fans haven't donated to the school they graduated from within SU, the school in general, or AD in general (just like every other alumni base). Suddenly 200K people are going to get on a $20 a month sub for fund an NIL collective?

The whole thing is dumb - this went from Joey Spallina getting some dollars for Mannys to sell his tee shirt and appearance fees to this nonsense.

FWIW think we're within a couple of years of schools just paying this directly.

 

[Chip]

I dated a girl who went to SU for 4 years and never watched a game until she watched one with me and probably never watched another after we stopped talking. Dated a girl who went SU law when i lived out in Vegas, same thing.

Sounds like you have very specific dating standards.

Swipe right if you went to SU.

Swipe left if you didn't.

If you went to Georgetown, I'll assume you have herpes.

 

[two3zone]

Sounds like you have very specific dating standards.

Swipe right if you went to SU.

Swipe left if you didn't.

If you went to Georgetown, I'll assume you have herpes.

Same goes for UConn and Duke alumni.