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Gerry McNamara needs to be the next coach

Seeding for Siena will be interesting. I know some folks at Lehigh who think they will be in the play in game. Watched quite a bit of both teams and I think Lehigh would handle Siena.
Siena would be a 5 or 6 point favorite based on KenPom. Siena is about 80-90 teams better based on results and looks like a solid 15 seed.
 
Only JB has said he’s being considered for BC and GT.
Well, if there is interest, the parties involved probably aren't going to discuss it publicly just yet. JB is JB and has no filter of any kind. If I were GMac, those two schools wouldn't be all that alluring. Boston College, maybe, Georgia Tech, hard pass. Might as well stay at Siena, build your career up and move on when the time and offer is right.
 
Well, if there is interest, the parties involved probably aren't going to discuss it publicly just yet. JB is JB and has no filter of any kind. If I were GMac, those two schools wouldn't be all that alluring. Boston College, maybe, Georgia Tech, hard pass. Might as well stay at Siena, build your career up and move on when the time and offer is right.

He 100% should not stay at Siena if he is serious about coaching at the P4 level. He should use Siena's success to move up to a tougher conference and gain more experience. Move up to the American, Big East, or A-10. That is how you build your resume as a coach. That would be his logical next step he shouldn't stay at Siena.
 
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C’mon guys, look closer. Sure, he won 23 games. But 21 of them were Q4, where he was 21-4. Against Q3 2-6, vs Q1 0-1. That read like a record of someone ready to coach SU? Get real.
You can only beat the teams on your schedule.
He primarily played Q4, I think his only Q1 was against Indiana at Indiana.
Didnt even play Q2.
Once the team settled down after all the injuries, all the teams left were Q4 and a few Q3

I think it is ridiculous to use the NET to downgrade his coaching ability when he literally had no shot at getting a 125 or better NET unless he won every game on his schedule.

He could have had the greatest team in the history of the MAAC but Net would still look horrendous.
As we have learned, you need a lot of Quad 1 and Quad 2 wins, and by large margins, to get a good to great NET.

Listen, I know this is not the time to hire Gerry, unless they choose Hopkins and then I will have a meltdown,
but he has proven that he has the winning mentality and can develop a culture with a winning mentality.

BH appears to have that mentality too which is why I hope we get him but there is no reason to make it seem like BH is this winning prizefighter while GMAC is wrestling in the kiddie pool.

Winning is winning, and good coaching is good coaching, at any level in my humble opinion.
 
I don't know, man, calling his supporters nutcases and comparing Gerry to a drug addict seems pretty disrespectful. How many years of blood, sweat, and tears did he give to Syracuse? Forget all that, he's a druggie you don't want to date, and if you do, you're crazy. It's hyperbolic nonsense.

You’re confusing me not respecting your opinion regarding the viability of Gerry as a Syracuse head coaching candidate right now, with disrespect for Gerry. Gerry’s done a great job to this point. Calling you a nutcase is arguably over the line since everyone has some emotional, irrational beliefs. That doesn’t make them a complete nutcase. They’re just too emotionally invested to think rationally on one issue.

But I gotta say - taking from my comment that I was comparing Gerry to a drug addict and not that the actual comparison is you to an irrational and infatuated school girl does support that you’re really committed to a position that is hard to defend factually. You guys are spending far more time nursing your hurt feelings than defending your position for a reason.
 
Drug addicted musician? Wouldn't McNamara be more like the good student who is quite responsible and so might bore the 17 year old girl who wants to party while young?

The important part is that when people become objects of irrational affection, it’s impossible to reason with the one who has fallen in love. That objection irrational affection could be a musician or potential coach with ties to the school.

But since this thread has devolved into people finding reasons to misrepresent what’s being said, let me try my hand at it…

sO yOu’Re sAyInG McNamara iS BoRiNg?!?!?!?!?!

How’d I do?
 
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Can an insider explain to me how the coach is already selected yet we just hired an AD whose job is to select a HC? Is this more a conclave ?

I would assume B Brian Blair (for wwf fans) has an opinion. To me the search just started or I’m naive to what an AD does
 
Can an insider explain to me how the coach is already selected yet we just hired an AD whose job is to select a HC? Is this more a conclave ?

I would assume B Brian Blair (for wwf fans) has an opinion. To me the search just started or I’m naive to what an AD does

The current AD and the hiring committee have already done a national search and narrowed the list down. When the new AD officially comes on board, he will be given the information from the person he is replacing and the hiring committee.

We couldn't afford for the business of searching for a new coach to be put on pause until the new AD gets settled in. The process needs to be close to wrapping up now. The portal business starts really soon. So the new AD is coming in and will go with the hiring committee and the person he is replacing's suggestions. I am 100000% sure this was already discussed in the interview process so the new AD knows what is going and may have already had some input this week but the process has already started.


***I am no insider but I work in the education adminstration field so I know how this stuff works.
 
Can an insider explain to me how the coach is already selected yet we just hired an AD whose job is to select a HC? Is this more a conclave ?

I would assume B Brian Blair (for wwf fans) has an opinion. To me the search just started or I’m naive to what an AD does

Simple explanation is that they have a short list of viable candidates, new AD needs to sign off on top candidate. So probably a lot of DD was done with wildhack, they have identified the top choice.
 
Well, if there is interest, the parties involved probably aren't going to discuss it publicly just yet. JB is JB and has no filter of any kind. If I were GMac, those two schools wouldn't be all that alluring. Boston College, maybe, Georgia Tech, hard pass. Might as well stay at Siena, build your career up and move on when the time and offer is right.

A few people have said this now. Why is Boston College the better opportunity? I think GT has more historical success and potential - but it’s a marginal advantage on the history and disappears depending on what metrics you focus on. Potential I’m guessing at, so while I would rank GT as the better opportunity - I could be convinced otherwise.
 
Simple explanation is that they have a short list of viable candidates, new AD needs to sign off on top candidate. So probably a lot of DD was done with wildhack, they have identified the top choice.
So the new ad has minimal responsibility for this hire got it.

I get the back channeling and palace intrigue but this is just a crazy scenario to walk into as an administrator.

Maybe higher education deserves the criticism it gets. The timing here, firing red when they did (dead man walking since last year), wildhack leaving now yet knowing he was leaving last summer smells of circus.
 
I can 100% see fans saying why would syracuse pass over much better options to go the alumni route again and continue to pull from a coaching tree that has never been successful at the top level.
Never? Rick Pitino?
 
It’s not disrespect. People are giving real reasons they think he’s not a good choice and a few people are disregarding all of those.
People are group think and can’t fathom the idea of a guy from Boeheims tree actually working out because the broken branch of the tree didn’t.

Kraft shouldn't have hired Vrabel because Mayo didn’t work out and Vrabel already flamed out in tenn. Critical thinking folks. To me su needs to bring Mac in and find out his plan and compare it to other candidates. This isn’t hard.

If Gmac is the best identified u hire him. You don’t use a faulty logic to prevent it. Courage
 
So the new ad has minimal responsibility for this hire got it.

I get the back channeling and palace intrigue but this is just a crazy scenario to walk into as an administrator.

Maybe higher education deserves the criticism it gets. The timing here, firing red when they did (dead man walking since last year), wildhack leaving now yet knowing he was leaving last summer smells of circus.
I wouldn’t say minimal, but a lot of the upfront BS has probably been done for him. Maybe he has a candidate he wants to interview who knows.
 
People are group think and can’t fathom the idea of a guy from Boeheims tree actually working out because the broken branch of the tree didn’t.

Kraft shouldn't have hired Vrabel because Mayo didn’t work out and Vrabel already flamed out in tenn. Critical thinking folks. To me su needs to bring Mac in and find out his plan and compare it to other candidates. This isn’t hard.

If Gmac is the best identified u hire him. You don’t use a faulty logic to prevent it. Courage

Motte & Bailey Fallacy returns!
 
Rick Pitino spent the same time under Bruce O’Neil as he did JB
Also coached at Hawaii first. Just depends on your definition of coaching tree I guess but I always took it as people who started their careers under said coach.
 

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