Gerry McNamara needs to be the next coach

[oldpinepoint]

Gerry McNamara, good enough to coach ACC peer programs. Not good enough for Syracuse University basketball fans.

No they are saying they would like someone else who is more qualified. Personally I’m ready for something different, Gmac will be a good coach, I just see him as more of the same even though I know he would be an upgrade over what we have had.

 

[Cusefan95]

It would be cool if JB said positive things about other candidates too instead of this stealth campaign for Gerry.

I'm sick of this entitled opinioned fossil who thinks control over the Syracuse basketball program is his birthright, and he can influence the school to hire Gerry. Crap like this is EXACTLY what I was worried about.

I'm more firmly in the "Never Gerry" camp after reading that tweet. AT least until JB can't have any influence.

 

[xc84]

C’mon. The P5 leagues all have multiple perennial top 25 teams. The MAAC has zero. Much easier to compete with that level of opposition.

It is all relative.

 

[RF2044]

can you link that article?

Adrian Autry sounded like a coach who wasn’t made for this era. The next coach better be | Carlson

Syracuse's next coach must try to embrace the modern era of college athletics rather than allow themselves to be victimized by it.

www.syracuse.com

 

[Irishsecra1]

Frankly the more JB advocates for Gerry, the more likely they will pass.
He isnt exactly beloved up on the hill.

 

[hoopsupstate]

jb just said on orangenation that gmac has heard from bc and georgia tech.

And you believe him? He’s doing it again trying to get one of his guys the job.

 

[Irishsecra1]

It would be cool if JB said positive things about other candidates too instead of this stealth campaign for Gerry.

I'm sick of this entitled opinioned fossil who thinks control over the Syracuse basketball program is his birthright, and he can influence the school to hire Gerry. Crap like this is EXACTLY what I was worried about.

I'm more firmly in the "Never Gerry" camp after reading that tweet. AT least until JB can't have any influence.

What was he asked? Why did this even come up?
Did anyone here listen to the interview?

 

[PoppyHart]

If it ever came down to the two, I believe Hodgson has the higher floor and the higher ceiling than GMAC.

 

[OttoMets]

I think he's overrated.

 

[CooperCuse]

No they are saying they would like someone else who is more qualified. Personally I’m ready for something different, Gmac will be a good coach, I just see him as more of the same even though I know he would be an upgrade over what we have had.

That's one reason. Prospective coaches being discussed are arguably on the same level as Gerry. I don't see any candidates that are clearly better than the others. There's also the anti-Boeheim coaching tree contingent that doesn't want Gerry at all. Wasn't it a knock on Gerry in the past that he needed head coaching experience? Now it's his success isn't good enough or at a high enough conference level.

 

[hoopsupstate]

It would be cool if JB said positive things about other candidates too instead of this stealth campaign for Gerry.

I'm sick of this entitled opinioned fossil who thinks control over the Syracuse basketball program is his birthright, and he can influence the school to hire Gerry. Crap like this is EXACTLY what I was worried about.

I'm more firmly in the "Never Gerry" camp after reading that tweet. AT least until JB can't have any influence.

JB also said we had NIL budgets similar to BC and GT. That’s complete baloney.

 

[IthacaBarrel]

It would be cool if JB said positive things about other candidates too instead of this stealth campaign for Gerry.

I'm sick of this entitled opinioned fossil who thinks control over the Syracuse basketball program is his birthright, and he can influence the school to hire Gerry. Crap like this is EXACTLY what I was worried about.

I'm more firmly in the "Never Gerry" camp after reading that tweet. AT least until JB can't have any influence.

Yeah almost like 50 years at one job at one institution might make one feel a bit "entitled"

Crazy. I get the point but have some perspective

 

[Blanko97]

And you believe him? He’s doing it again trying to get one of his guys the job.

I mean, of course. Gerry 100% heard somethign from them, it may be that they arent interested but you'd be crazy to think his agent isnt putting a call into every open P5 job even if he has no interest in taking them. Its like i said about Murry, you may not leave this year but you want your name attached as many jobs as possible in the rumor mill because it drives up your worth.

 

[RF2044]

That's one reason. Prospective coaches being discussed are arguably on the same level as Gerry. I don't see any candidates that are clearly better than the others. There's also the anti-Boeheim coaching tree contingent that doesn't want Gerry at all. Wasn't it a knock on Gerry in the past that he needed head coaching experience? Now it's his success isn't good enough or at a high enough conference level.

So then take the emotion out of it, and let's focus on empirical data. I provided the data for USF.

Feel free to make the counter argument, using data / metrics to support your case for gmac.

I welcome that comparison -- ESPECIALLY since you keep repeating that you "...don't see any candidates that are better than the others." That's subjective, so let's move it to the objective and compare what the data says about GMac and Hodgson.

Here's a link connected to both sets of quantitative advanced metrics: Gerry McNamara needs to be the next coach

 

[phil77]

jb just said on orangenation that gmac has heard from bc and georgia tech.

JB says things

 

[powdersmack]

Well, since I started this thread, I guess I should put in my two cents. I am good with either Gerry or Hodgkin. They both bring different strengths. I am not of the opinion that Gerry is fruit from the poisoned tree. That is not his fault. Duke took a chance on Scheyer and Scheyer has been a great coach. He will be at Duke for life. Many Duke fans were rather sick of K by the end, believe it or not. But legacy is important to Duke. If Gerry is successful, he will be here for life.

Hodgkin would be a great hire, but there are no guarantees with him, either. Gerry and Hodgkin are around the same age. Someone made the point that Hodgkin seems to run a more dynamic offense. That is appealing but perhaps Hodgkin has the players to do that. Gerry works with what he has.

The money and NIL make it all the more complicated, and I have no wisdom or insight about that except that I HATE it. Does Gerry even want this job? I am sure he understands the pressure he would be under.

There are no guarantees in life.

Oh no, they grafted Hopkins and Hodgson?!?! This was unforeseen...and tragic.

 

[powdersmack]

Honestly, if you are strictly looking at Metrics, then you are right, Gerry should not even be considered.
And if he was Joe Blow at Siena, we probably wouldn't consider him or even talk about him on this board.

OK, Katie, and with that you have said it all.

 

[CooperCuse]

So then take the emotion out of it, and let's focus on empirical data. I provided the data for USF.

Feel free to make the counter argument, using data / metrics to support your case for gmac.

I welcome that comparison -- ESPECIALLY since you keep repeating that you "...don't see any candidates that are better than the others." That's subjective, so let's move it to the objective and compare what the data says about GMac and Hodgson.

Don't care, I'm not a bean counter. Gerry wins. As a player, now as a coach. Winning is the bottom line.

 

[Cusefan95]

If Siena has all this great financial support, why did it take 16 years to get back to the Dance?
If Red showed us anything this year, it is that it takes a lot more than financial support to build a winning team.

The folks that have lived in Albany the entire time would be able to correct this if I'm wrong - but I think Gerry having this financial support does not equal previous coaches having it. One factor is AW choosing to throw money their way due to Gerry. Another is the school was mostly focused on becoming "Siena University" for the past decade, so money and effort was steered in that direction. And it looks like them getting that designation in 2025 allowed them to immediately focus on funding an area with potential to bring the national spotlight to it.

I know when I was living in Albany several years ago, my impression was basketball success was a much lower priority than university status.

 

[xc84]

So then take the emotion out of it, and let's focus on empirical data. I provided the data for USF.

Feel free to make the counter argument, using data / metrics to support your case for gmac.

I welcome that comparison -- ESPECIALLY since you keep repeating that you "...don't see any candidates that are better than the others." That's subjective, so let's move it to the objective and compare what the data says about GMac and Hodgson.

If picking the right coach was all about number crunching there could be no arguments and no assistant without a head coach record could be hired as a head coach.It’s about more than that. And no statistical comparison is all that valid with the sample size in GMacs head coaching career.

 

[RF2044]

Don't care, I'm not a bean counter. Gerry wins. As a player, now as a coach. Winning is the bottom line.

Of course you don't care, because the data does not support your position.

And everything you state above about Gerry is also true of Hodgson, but to a greater degree.

So, I see why you'd prefer to focus on subjective opinions instead of objective measures.

 

[rrlbees]

And you believe him? He’s doing it again trying to get one of his guys the job.

yes

 

[5OutFred]

If it's Gerry, we get Jim's two cents every week. Pass.

 

[oldpinepoint]

That's one reason. Prospective coaches being discussed are arguably on the same level as Gerry. I don't see any candidates that are clearly better than the others. There's also the anti-Boeheim coaching tree contingent that doesn't want Gerry at all. Wasn't it a knock on Gerry in the past that he needed head coaching experience? Now it's his success isn't good enough or at a high enough conference level.

I can see that argument but I don’t think that at all. I think there is a clear pecking order of experience here and gmac is probably #3 or 4. Gmac has a done a good job at Siena, but Siena is not at the same level at St Louis or USF. Hypothetical question if BH wins the American conference tournament and goes to the NCAA would that make
Him more qualified? He will have won the conference regular season and the tournament.

 

[Fly Rodder]

How many wins does Gerry lose for playing ineligible guys this season? One of the issues with the JAB decline years and Autry was terrible roster management.