Gerry McNamara needs to be the next coach

[CooperCuse]

You’re confusing me not respecting your opinion regarding the viability of Gerry as a Syracuse head coaching candidate right now, with disrespect for Gerry. Gerry’s done a great job to this point. Calling you a nutcase is arguably over the line since everyone has some emotional, irrational beliefs. That doesn’t make them a complete nutcase. They’re just too emotionally invested to think rationally on one issue.

But I gotta say - taking from my comment that I was comparing Gerry to a drug addict and not that the actual comparison is you to an irrational and infatuated school girl does support that you’re really committed to a position that is hard to defend factually. You guys are spending far more time nursing your hurt feelings than defending your position for a reason.

Well, you made a bunch of disrespectful comments then, didn't you? Accusing people of being irrational nutcases, calling coaches drug addicts, calling other fans infatuated school girls, saying people that support Gerry are nursing hurt feelings, etc., etc. None of this strikes you as being on the stupid side of message board idiocy? No one is confused, you're just acting like an ass.

 

[Blanko97]

Also coached at Hawaii first. Just depends on your definition of coaching tree I guess but I always took it as people who started their careers under said coach.

Even if we say that Pitino is a JB branch, the rest of his tree is pretty average to below average

 

[Cusefan95]

Well, you made a bunch of disrespectful comments then, didn't you? Accusing people of being irrational nutcases, calling coaches drug addicts, calling other fans infatuated school girls, saying people that support Gerry are nursing hurt feelings, etc., etc. None of this strikes you as being on the stupid side of message board idiocy? No one is confused, you're just acting like an ass.

I’m going to guess you skipped right over the last sentence of my comment for a reason. You couldn’t have made it any more obvious I’m correct - you’re focusing on hurt feelings so much because your case is so terrible.

 

[dasher]

Even if we say that Pitino is a JB branch, the rest of his tree is pretty average to below average

Isn't that typical? Most great coaches trees aren't all that special. There are exceptions of course. But I'm thinking about Coach K. Or even Knight minus K.

 

[Blanko97]

Isn't that typical? Most great coaches trees aren't all that special. There are exceptions of course. But I'm thinking about Coach K. Or even Knight minus K.

I’m confused are you saying K doesn’t have a good tree?

 

[Millhouse]

I bet if Hodgson is really good , he leaves in 3-4 years and Gerry would be a top candidate.

Fine with me

 

[dasher]

I’m confused are you saying K doesn’t have a good tree?

I'm thinking Snyder wasn't all that good at Mizzou and I haven't seen much from Capel or Woj. Who am I missing that is really good. Can't say the current Duke coach. At least not yet, He started at 3rd base, he didn't hit a triple.

 

[CooperCuse]

I’m going to guess you skipped right over the last sentence of my comment for a reason. You couldn’t have made it any more obvious I’m correct - you’re focusing on hurt feelings so much because your case is so terrible.

No one is required to defend their support of Gerry to you. People want Gerry as coach, myself included. Calling them nutcases and GMac a druggie aren't factual arguments, are they? Who really has hurt feelings? It's not us. I'm focused on your incivility.

 

[RF2044]

I'm thinking Snyder wasn't all that good at Mizzou and I haven't seen much from Capel or Woj. Who am I missing that is really good. Can't say the current Duke coach. At least not yet, He started at 3rd base, he didn't hit a triple.

Snyder was pretty good, moreso at the NBA level. He's had quite a bit of success there.

Collins is good at Northwestern.

Amaker has had some intermittent success.

All that said, to hell with duke.


I kind of feel like Boeheim's tree is similar. Obviously, Pitino is legendary, and I don't know how much you can really consider him a branch off of the JB tree, but either way -- he's one of the all time best college basketball coaches.

Other than that... underwhelming. Orr and Morgan had some decent years. Malone had success at the NBA level, as did Weaver [at the administrative level]. Hopkins and Red were busts.

 

[CooperCuse]

Isn't that typical? Most great coaches trees aren't all that special. There are exceptions of course. But I'm thinking about Coach K. Or even Knight minus K.

Dean Smith has a pretty good coaching tree.

Roy Williams
Larry Brown
George Karl
Billy Cunningham
Bill Guthridge
Hubert Davis
Matt Doherty

 

[dasher]

One of the things that has disappointed me on this board has been the running down of what Gerry
has done at Siena. It is okay , more than okay, to not want him as the next coach at Syracuse. I fall in
to that category. However, he played this season without two starters. And then before the tournament
the NCAA strips him of a 3rd starter. And he still captures the title. He has done a great job at Siena. My reservation is that I want to see him do it without Doty. A lot of coaches can do great when they have a star.
Having said that, you won't see me knocking what they guy did in the last two years at Siena.

 

[dasher]

Snyder was pretty good, moreso at the NBA level. He's had quite a bit of success there.

Collins is good at Northwestern.

Amaker has had some intermittent success.

All that said, to hell with duke.

I wouldn't call that great. Amaker got fired at Mich. Collins is okay. If we hired any of the three at
Syracuse would you be happy? I wouldn't.

 

[elimunelson]

One of the things that has disappointed me on this board has been the running down of what Gerry
has done at Siena. It is okay , more than okay, to not want him as the next coach at Syracuse. I fall in
to that category. However, he played this season without two starters. And then before the tournament
the NCAA strips him of a 3rd starter. And he still captures the title. He has done a great job at Siena. My reservation is that I want to see him do it without Doty. A lot of coaches can do great when they have a star.
having said that, you won't see me knocking what they guy did in the last two years at Siena.

it’s like politics people have their guy and will do everything to kill a counter

I’m on record: Murray Hodgson or Gmac. All work I bet. It’s not a battle to the death.

 

[orangepassion]

Georgia Tech, hard pass.

What about the Atlanta rap scene?

 

[CuseFaninVT]

Well, you made a bunch of disrespectful comments then, didn't you? Accusing people of being irrational nutcases, calling coaches drug addicts, calling other fans infatuated school girls, saying people that support Gerry are nursing hurt feelings, etc., etc. None of this strikes you as being on the stupid side of message board idiocy? No one is confused, you're just acting like an ass.

You can’t actually believe he called coaches drug addicts. Even you aren’t that obtuse.

 

[RF2044]

I wouldn't call that great. Amaker got fired at Mich. Collins is okay. If we hired any of the three at
Syracuse would you be happy? I wouldn't.

Collins has done well relative to the expectations at NW, and has gotten them into the NCAA tournament. Their fanbase is pretty happy with him.

Amaker had success at both Seton Hall and Harvard, outside of Michigan.

Middling success.

And why the heck am I defending former Duke players / coaches? Let them all rot.

 

[5OutFred]

My reservation is that I want to see him do it without Doty. A lot of coaches can do great when they have a star.
Having said that, you won't see me knocking what they guy did in the last two years at Siena.

I sense the frustration on the board is that many have trouble separating the fact that Gerry has done a good job this year, and is also not qualified for the SU job.

Just because he won there, doesn't mean he's ready to win here - which many on the board have implied.

 

[Cusefan0307]

This thread has reached the level of insanity.

 

[dasher]

I sense the frustration on the board is that many have trouble separating the fact that Gerry has done a good job this year, and is also not qualified for the SU job.

Just because he won there, doesn't mean he's ready to win here - which many on the board have implied.

I agree with that. But it has been carried out a little too far for my tastes.

 

[RF2044]

You can’t actually believe he called coaches drug addicts. Even you aren’t that obtuse.

Somebody [not going to go back through dozens of pages of posts] made a joking analogy about how the irrational support for GMac in the face of data that he might not be the best candidate is similar to your daughter bringing home a drug addict, with the only rationale for the toxic relationship being "but daddy... i love him!"

That's what he is making reference to. It is overblown.

 

[PoppyHart]

Gmac was never lead assistant under JB.
Maybe he belongs to Red’s tree?

 

[CuseFaninVT]

Somebody [not going to go back through dozens of pages of posts] made a joking post about how the irrational love for GMac was like your daughter bringing home a drug addict, with the only rationale for the relationship being "but daddy... i love him!"

That's what he is making reference to. It is overblown.

Oh i know. I saw the post and again, at no point was 95 calling any coach a drug addict. I’m just tired of lies going unchallenged in this country and on this site.

 

[NineOneSeven]

No one is required to defend their support of Gerry to you. People want Gerry as coach, myself included. Calling them nutcases and GMac a druggie aren't factual arguments, are they? Who really has hurt feelings? It's not us. I'm focused on your incivility.

You’re familiar with analogies, right?

 

[RaoulDuke]

I'm fine with Gerry because he has an NIL guy. Does Hodgson have a billionaire NIL guy or are we going to rely on 'boosters' ? NIL whales are just as important as Players and Coaches. Look at St Johns ... it's not just Pitino, they have a billionaire sitting right behind him at the Garden...

 

[CooperCuse]

You can’t actually believe he called coaches drug addicts. Even you aren’t that obtuse.

He compared Gerry to a drug-addicted musician, did he not? And Gerry's supporters were infatuated schoolgirls. Did you miss that stupidity?