Gerry McNamara needs to be the next coach

[bnoro]

Joe Gallo is the "Gerry McNamara without the Syracuse background" candidate. He was linked to us in an article or two.

Would anyone here be happy if we hired Joe Gallo?

 

[bnoro]

People are group think and can’t fathom the idea of a guy from Boeheims tree actually working out because the broken branch of the tree didn’t.

Kraft shouldn't have hired Vrabel because Mayo didn’t work out and Vrabel already flamed out in tenn. Critical thinking folks. To me su needs to bring Mac in and find out his plan and compare it to other candidates. This isn’t hard.

If Gmac is the best identified u hire him. You don’t use a faulty logic to prevent it. Courage

This isn't remotely comparable. Vrabel never coached under Bill. Vrabel wasn't passed over so Kraft could hire Mayo.

Not to mention the Patriots job was far more attractive because of the QB talent, and Vrabel wouldn't have taken it otherwise.

 

[BomberOrange]

I just saw a poll on CNY Central this morning. They had a survey for who should be the next coach.

Gerry has received over 40% of the votes so far.
Hodgson is 2nd with 27% or something like that, Mike had about 10% and I forget the 4th choice.

So, there are a lot of people out there who would like to see Gerry. But if he starts poorly, it could really tarnish the fans support.

Do we want to see Gerry coaching a team in a near-empty Dome? That would be a disaster.

The average cny fan has no clue about national cbb and will vote Gmac based on

Gerry and Hodge have same blueprint. Both doing great. Both set offenses not Jb offense. Tough d. I am great with either

BHs offense is light years ahead of Gmacs. I wouldn’t be pissed if GM is the coach but would feel we missed an opportunity.

 

[CooperCuse]

You can take Doherty off that list. Hubert and Gutheridge were ok. The rest legends. Still a strong g tree

He had one good season at Notre Dame and a very strong first season at Carolina. After that, he was pretty mediocre wherever he coached. It's why he's at the bottom of the list. There's at least three or four other dudes on Dean's tree I left off.

 

[elimunelson]

This isn't remotely comparable. Vrabel never coached under Bill. Vrabel wasn't passed over so Kraft could hire Mayo.

Not to mention the Patriots job was far more attractive because of the QB talent, and Vrabel wouldn't have taken it otherwise.

Cmon he played under him for years….hes said he’s taken a lot from his coaching. Semantics game.

in Gmac I trust as well as every one else identified. Let the conclave decide now.

 

[Irishsecra1]

Assuming he doesn’t get the SU job, I want to see the type of offense and defense he runs next year at Siena. I think it is fair to say he probably didn’t run the offense he originally envisioned. Losing 3 starters and your sixth man forces you to recalibrate everything.

He has the best incoming class in the MAAC, headlined by a point guard who is nationally ranked. Supposedly highest ranked recruit in Sienas history. Doty should stay assuming AW still pays his NIL. Might pay NIL as well for Folefac. Not to mention the injured starters returning.

The team could be really special.

 

[IthacaMatt]

LAorange44 i see my post made you angry. Why is that

Oh, I got a BUNCH of those. LOL

 

[TommyA13]

No he doesn’t, end of thread.

 

[IthacaMatt]

He 100% should not stay at Siena if he is serious about coaching at the P4 level. He should use Siena's success to move up to a tougher conference and gain more experience. Move up to the American, Big East, or A-10. That is how you build your resume as a coach. That would be his logical next step he shouldn't stay at Siena.

He's had one good year. He hasn't proved anything yet, if he wants to get a better job.
His next season is his most important one.

I think he has a better chance of success at Siena, where he will have a bunch of returnees, and even more backing, relative to his league. I think it's riskier for him to leave too early. I think one more year cements things in people's minds. In public relations they say that "three makes a trend".

That's a recipe for another good year, and if he makes it to the tournament or wins the league back-to-back, then he can get a job at Penn State, Drexel, St. Joe's, Seton Hall, Iona, Hofstra, maybe Rhode Island.
He needs a job like that next. In his footprint where he is a legend.
After that intermediate job, then he's ready for a big one.

He's not going to walk into one of the top jobs this summer just because "he's a winner".

 

[Cusefan95]

He's had one good year. He hasn't proved anything yet, if he wants to get a better job.
His next season is his most important one.

I think he has a better chance of success at Siena, where he will have a bunch of returnees, and even more backing, relative to his league. I think it's riskier for him to leave too early. I think one more year cements things in people's minds. In public relations they say that "three makes a trend".

That's a recipe for another good year, and if he makes it to the tournament or wins the league back-to-back, then he can get a job at Penn State, Drexel, St. Joe's, Seton Hall, Iona, Hofstra, maybe Rhode Island.
He needs a job like that next. In his footprint where he is a legend.
After that intermediate job, then he's ready for a big one.

He's not going to walk into one of the top jobs this summer just because "he's a winner".

I agree conceptually. I think one more year at Siena, with a great recruiting class coming in - Gerry has a chance to really elevate his profile.

I’m not sure why another MAAC school (Iona) is on your list. I also think Penn State is where careers go to die, it’s hard for anyone not in PA to grasp just how bad that job is. Being the third sport in winter (behind wrestling AND hockey) makes Penn State an unmatched difficulty in P4. Most of the list is A10/BE schools, those would be ideal landing spots.

 

[IthacaMatt]

I agree conceptually. I think one more year at Siena, with a great recruiting class coming in - Gerry has a chance to really elevate his profile.

I’m not sure why another MAAC school (Iona) is on your list. I also think Penn State is where careers go to die, it’s hard for anyone not in PA to grasp just how bad that job is. Being the third sport in winter (behind wrestling AND hockey) makes Penn State an unmatched difficulty in P4. Most of the list is A10/BE schools, those would be ideal landing spots.

Iona is NYC, not Albany. Better press coverage. Pitino coached there before going to St. John's. It has more cachet, despite being in the same league.

Yes, Penn State is tough, but they have so much money. BC does not, and it has no fan interest, and no press coverage in Boston.

Penn State is his backyard. They would have a lot of money to spend for him. He could do very well there. They get 80,000 for football in the middle of nowhere. He used to bring 50 buses of fans to games when he played here. He might kill it there.

 

[Cusefan95]

Iona is NYC, not Albany. Better press coverage. Pitino coached there before going to St. John's. It has more cachet, despite being in the same league.

Yes, Penn State is tough, but they have so much money. BC does not, and it has no fan interest, and no press coverage in Boston.

Penn State is his backyard. They would have a lot of money to spend for him. He could do very well there. They get 80,000 for football in the middle of nowhere. He used to bring 50 buses of fans to games when he played here. He might kill it there.

Iona was a way for an extremely successful but disgraced coach to rehabilitate his career. That’s a world of difference from being an early stepping stone for a young coach - and going from one MAAC school to another is a terrible idea. And we’ve mocked Boston College for being the 6th or 7th most important team in Boston - which equals no press coverage. Iona is somewhere around the 33rd most important team in NYC. They may have better press coverage than Siena - but if they do, I was never aware of it when I lived in NYC.

The problem at Penn State is not money. It is wrestling and hockey. Wrestling is always a top five program, have 14 national championships, and sell out every match. Hockey has top flight facilities, a top 10 program with championship aspirations every year, and the #1 recruit this year. The school can throw all the money at basketball they want to - but it would need to be in the top 15 for people to pay attention. Otherwise they’ll just focus on wrestling and hockey. Top recruits aren’t going to want to go there to play third fiddle to the star wrestlers and hockey players on campus. And counting on busses from Scranton taking the 2.5 hr drive on a Tuesday night to fill up the arena feels like an unwise gamble. I think guys not particularly familiar with State College see all the money Penn State has and thinks they can be successful in basketball. What I keep saying as someone familiar with State College is that there is no analog culturally to it. Nobody has TWO sports that matter more than basketball in winter. No one will have sustained success of more than a year or two there - taking that job is a high risk gamble. You’d need to do what Shrewsberry did - have your exit strategy planned before you even take the job, knowing you won’t be there more than two years. Three tops. For all the downsides of Boston College, it is a vastly better job than Penn State. PSU is absolutely the worst job in P4 and is in the running for worst in D1.