Gottlieb on SU’s current situation.

[Alsacs]

 

[UpstateSM]

 

[MikeSU02]

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[Cuseball]

Well, Doug nailed it and he wasn't unlikeable in how he said it

 

[Briancuse]

Maybe the smartest take that man has ever had.

 

[Sherman20]

If you’re watch the full segment, Goodman was talking about post-JB and said Syracuse isn’t an easy place to recruit to?!?? Is he serious?? And don’t give me the weather nonsense. It’s colder at every other Big 10 school and no different than most Big East schools. Lansing, Michigan; Ames, Iowa; Omaha Nebraska; Minnesota, Wisconsin, Indiana, Illinois. All these places are frozen tundra in the winter. And we’re much much closer (4-5 hour driving distance) to all the Northeast recruiting hubs, from New England to NYC/NJ, Philly to the DMV. And recruits can play in the largest arena in the country in front of the biggest crowds, with a fan base that travels all over. Goodman says his own daughter might go to Cuse! Guess it can’t be that bad.

 

[djcon57]

wait...you mean other schools are recruiting against “daddy ball”. Those were Dougs words.

weird that he didn’t bring up this message board

 

[Chip]

We're all gonna need A LOT of popcorn at the next post game presser.

 

[MikeSU02]

wait...you mean other schools are recruiting against “daddy ball”. Those were Dougs words.

weird that he didn’t bring up this message board

Wait wait wait.

My posts about Buddy and Jimmy being volume shooters weren’t the reason we aren’t signing Filipowski?!?!?!

My ego, it hath been struck down.

 

[Sherman20]

wait...you mean other schools are recruiting against “daddy ball”. Those were Dougs words.

weird that he didn’t bring up this message board

Lol. That was amazing and shows the reality of what our assistants are up against.

 

[MikeSU02]

Lol. That was amazing and shows the reality of what our assistants are up against.

The best part are the sound bites that JB keeps feeding the media that plays right into the narrative. So it’s not only that it’s daddy ball, it’s not only that we’re having a bad year, it’s that JB trashing Benny and Jesse is just the absolute gasoline on the already bad fire.

 

[Sherman20]

Gottlieb made the depressing observation about how when the ACC expanded 10 years ago, everyone talked about how it was going to be a “murderers row” with Duke, UNC, Louisville, and Syracuse at the top, plus Pitt and ND added to NC State, Virginia, Florida State, etc., and then to see how far it’s fallen the past couple of seasons. Conference strength is usually cyclical so I assume this will shift again, but man is it rough right now.

 

[Alsacs]

The best part are the sound bites that JB keeps feeding the media that plays right into the narrative. So it’s not only that it’s daddy ball, it’s not only that we’re having a bad year, it’s that JB trashing Benny and Jesse is just the absolute gasoline on the already bad fire.

JB is really smart at getting his spin in the press.
The local media can’t question him because they need access.
But anyone objective sees what he says is to prevent second guessing.

Our assistants have terrible jobs that require them to be yes men and do a lot of the good cop routines.

Gottlieb is a jack wagon but his analysis was spot on.

 

[MikeSU02]

JB is really smart at getting his spin in the press.
The local media can’t question him because they need access.
But anyone objective sees what he says is to prevent second guessing.

Our assistants have terrible jobs that require them to be yes men and do a lot of the good cop routines.

Gottlieb is a jack wagon but his analysis was spot on.

Yeah. I can’t imagine what it’s like for the assistants. Can’t be easy.

But at some point, you have to understand what JB is and if you then stay on, I mean, that’s on them, right?

Red and GMac know what to expect at this point. They are part of the machine.

 

[supp]

It was bound to happen. Once the national press smells blood in the water, it will be impossible for Boeheim to avoid the tough questions.

 

[two3zone]

If you’re watch the full segment, Goodman was talking about post-JB and said Syracuse isn’t an easy place to recruit to?!?? Is he serious?? And don’t give me the weather nonsense. It’s colder at every other Big 10 school and no different than most Big East schools. Lansing, Michigan; Ames, Iowa; Omaha Nebraska; Minnesota, Wisconsin, Indiana, Illinois. All these places are frozen tundra in the winter. And we’re much much closer (half day driving distance) to all the Northeast recruiting hubs, from New England to NYC/NJ, Philly to the DMV. And recruits can play in the largest arena in the country in front of the biggest crowds, with a fan base that travels all over. Goodman says his own daughter might go there! Guess it can’t be that bad.

It isn’t the way it used to be, every conference used to be top heavy with big players, like us. Now you’re seeing schools that nobody paid attention to in the 80s and 90s who have built great programs, there is a lot more competition than there was.

The Melo Center is awesome, while it used to be a pillar, every single one of our peer schools are right there with us.

The dome, when you are at or close to capacity it’s amazing, when it’s not, I’m not sure it’s an asset that most think it is.

 

[samspann1]

If you’re watch the full segment, Goodman was talking about post-JB and said Syracuse isn’t an easy place to recruit to?!?? Is he serious?? And don’t give me the weather nonsense. It’s colder at every other Big 10 school and no different than most Big East schools. Lansing, Michigan; Ames, Iowa; Omaha Nebraska; Minnesota, Wisconsin, Indiana, Illinois. All these places are frozen tundra in the winter. And we’re much much closer (half day driving distance) to all the Northeast recruiting hubs, from New England to NYC/NJ, Philly to the DMV. And recruits can play in the largest arena in the country in front of the biggest crowds, with a fan base that travels all over. Goodman says his own daughter might go to Cuse! Guess it can’t be that bad.

seriously...a 1st year coach has Iowa State in the Top 15. They were 2-21 overall, and 0-18 in conference play last year.

 

[samspann1]

We're all gonna need A LOT of popcorn at the next post game presser.

he may call in to a radio show (national, of course) tomorrow, to present his spin.

 

[Dinkyspond]

Does anybody have the link to the Juli Boeheim interview yesterday? I missed it. Probably like a lot of people I bailed on the game when the rout was on. Couldn't bear it anymore. Moved on to other things. I did a Google search but only found some old interviews. Thanks in advance.

 

[samspann1]

also, if you're reading this, We Love Ya, Jimmy!

 

[Sherman20]

It isn’t the way it used to be, every conference used to be top heavy with big players, like us. Now you’re seeing schools that nobody paid attention to in the 80s and 90s who have built great programs, there is a lot more competition than there was.

The Melo Center is awesome, while it used to be a pillar, every single one of our peer schools are right there with us.

The dome, when you are at or close to capacity it’s amazing, when it’s not, I’m not sure it’s an asset that most think it is.

I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree on this point. I will acknowledge that there are newer recruiting hotbeds, like Texas, that are now producing more great players than they ever did before, and that’s probably helped the SEC a bit. But the recent recruiting successes of Nova, UConn and Maryland is proof that you can still succeed as a Northeast recruiting power if you have the right player-friendly coach who’s willing to engage. We’re the only P5 program in the Northeast that has top 10 resources in basketball and the corresponding prestige and historical success.

 

[Sherman20]

seriously...a 1st year coach has Iowa State in the Top 15. They were 2-21 overall, and 0-18 in conference play last year.

Exactly. The right coach can make Syracuse a top tier ACC program, just like JB did for decades in the Big East.

 

[Gotothehole]

Jim Boeheim's worst record in 46 years at Syracuse was in 1981-82 when they went 16-13. This year's team is on pace to beat that -- quite possible they finish the season under .500.

 

[Fly Rodder]

seriously...a 1st year coach has Iowa State in the Top 15. They were 2-21 overall, and 0-18 in conference play last year.

Yeah and Spokane isn’t exactly a jewel of the northwest, but Few is sure reeling them in of late. Kids want to go to winners. Top recruits might not be there more than 9-10 months.

 

[anomander]

Yeah. I can’t imagine what it’s like for the assistants. Can’t be easy.

But at some point, you have to understand what JB is and if you then stay on, I mean, that’s on them, right?

Red and GMac know what to expect at this point. They are part of the machine.

That’s why when we finally get JB out it has to be a clean cut and get some fresh blood in here. This is the definition of a stale program .