Great defensive coordinator, bad head coach

[Millhouse]

The mentality that you just have to pound the ball in from the 1 or 2 or 3 or whatever yard line is just prehistoric. Yet, we do it constnatly. We create these packages like the modified tank that are destined to just create a pile of bodies short of the goal line. If we can't learn to throw and have the guts to throw fades, slants, pivots in and pivots out, we are just one dimensional. Too many of the routes have no alternative routes to keep them alive. See, now you got me started again! To his credit Lester has thrown some fades and a pivot that resulted in a pick 6 because Long didn't get the whole play and turned to the line too quickly. I don't know what to think.

Fades blow

 

[Cheriehoop]

Throwing a headset is SOP for coaches at every level, but Shafer has lost it badly in several games and has even been penalized (Addazio never did that). The HC has got to be in control - S afer has to learn to control himself better for the good of the team. Just can't chalk it up to enthusiasm and caring - he has to grow into the role of HC.

His pressers indicate a guy not dealing very well with the pressure. I really like the guy and root for him to succeed, however, I am quite concerned about him.

Sounds like Addazio's done it at BC but just didn't get called prompting an article from the Fox rules analyst, a former V-P for NFL officiating. Doubt it was his first nor last incident either. Regardless it's funny how winning seems to cure all.

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2013/10/12/mike-pereira-analyzes-big-calls/print

 

[Finwad32]

I should have quoted a post. I'm talking about the emotions shown.

Lol, that's like saying the perfect temperature is between 0 degrees and 156 degrees. Nonetheless, very true Mr. Bees.

 

[Crusty]

Sounds like Addazio's done it at BC but just didn't get called prompting an article from the Fox rules analyst, a former V-P for NFL officiating. Doubt it was his first nor last incident either. Regardless it's funny how winning seems to cure all.

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2013/10/12/mike-pereira-analyzes-big-calls/print

Well, he didn't get penalized, but that is inexcusable as well. At the end of the day it has to affect a coach's ability to manage the game. More importantly, I don't want Shafer to implode. I really think he can do a good job for SU and I don't want to see him blow it. Hopefully, he will grow as time goes on and we will get into a less catastrophic season.

 

[tep624]

Ridiculous. Broyld was the only player open vs Clemson's D. Estime has been hurt all season - but even hurt was our best slot guy by a mile. He had a nice catch vs CMU.

Ben Lewis is a good WR - but he's the third best healthy receiver. West has been the best, followed by Ish.

I'm not even bothering with a response to that post - anyone who thinks that not having Broyld and Estime playing is better than having them playing isn't worth my time. It's amazing how illogical people become when you hit hard times.

 

[Jamesvillecuse]

sorry if it has already been discussed but I haven't read all 4 pages. Is there any concern about Bullough getting a better offer to be d-coordinator at another school? He seems to be pretty well respected and the defense was much improved as the year has progressed.

 

[TheCusian]

I'm not even bothering with a response to that post - anyone who thinks that not having Broyld and Estime playing is better than having them playing isn't worth my time. It's amazing how illogical people become when you hit hard times.

Agreed. It was just so crazy, I had to respond.

 

[TheCusian]

sorry if it has already been discussed but I haven't read all 4 pages. Is there any concern about Bullough getting a better offer to be d-coordinator at another school? He seems to be pretty well respected and the defense was much improved as the year has progressed.

I haven't heard anything about that - but if he goes, I wonder if we see Doust (sp?) get a shot?

 

[Millhouse]

i know addazio is better than what we have because he at least has some exposure to what a good college offense should be. even if it offends him deep down to his 400 cholesterol core.

but Addazio is just ok. being just ok is good enough in the northeast which makes me insane.

BC is boring and average. Pitt is boring and average. Penn State diddles boys and covers it up. Rutgers sucks and has to travel to Iowa. Maryland has a punchable jackass with terrible offenses. We have more money than we used to. We have better facilities than we used to.

There is opportunity here. It's not like the opportunity we had in the early 90s when BC had gambling problems, Rutgers was nowhere, Paterno was aging and Pitt was hiring 100 year old former greats but it's still an opportunity.

 

[TheCusian]

i know addazio is better than what we have because he at least has some exposure to what a good college offense should be. even if it offends him deep down to his 400 cholesterol core.

but Addazio is just ok. being just ok is good enough in the northeast which makes me insane.

BC is boring and average. Pitt is boring and average. Penn State diddles boys and covers it up. Rutgers sucks and has to travel to Iowa. Maryland has a punchable jackass with terrible offenses. We have more money than we used to. We have better facilities than we used to.

There is opportunity here. It's not like the opportunity we had in the early 90s when BC had gambling problems, Rutgers was no where, Paterno was aging and Pitt was hiring 100 year old former greats but it's still an opportunity.

How about Penn St and Temple fighting it out this week? It's not a given that Penn St wins.

Temple takes down Franklin? I'd pay money to be at that boosters meeting.

 

[OrangeBlood]

There's no one on SU's roster who could have made the play Blakeney made over Whigham. There's no one on SU's roster that could make half the plays that Crowder makes. To say they have no talent is completely incorrect. Duke's ranked for a reason. They've got some good playmakers.

They do have decent playmakers but to say they are much more talented than SU is ridiculous. They have a far better coach and are less injured. Custis and Ishmael will eventually be able to make those plays.

 

[N.Y. Orangeman]

Only last year Addazio was throwing headsets and acting like a complete mad man. Everybody on here criticized him and said, "I'm glad Addazio didn't get hired here at Syracuse because he seemed out of control". That was just last year. He is same person he was last year. He obviously has a better team than he did then. Stop saying Shafer is out of control. He is no different than any other coach in the league that really cares about his team and players. Come do a ride along with me here in NC and I can show you some folks that are "out of control".

He absolutely is not conducting himself like a HC of a P5 team. I wish him well, but I don't see him as being HC material. He rode Marrone to this job and got really, really luck. I hope he earns it, but I don't see it at this point.

The right answer lies somewhere between Marrone and Shafer.

I don't think people realize how Marrone was off camera compared to on camera.

 

[TheCusian]

He absolutely is not conducting himself like a HC of a P5 team. I wish him well, but I don't see him as being HC material. He rode Marrone to this job and got really, really luck. I hope he earns it, but I don't see it at this point. I don't think people realize how Marrone was off camera compared to on camera.

Is this the -Dabo thing? I don't get what people are so worked up about.

 

[N.Y. Orangeman]

Is this the -Dabo thing? I don't get what people are so worked up about.

No, this is, unfortunately, a series of leadership things. Dabo is the tip of the iceberg.

 

[SUbear]

Would 200 yards of offense and no points be better? Think man.

No only scoring points would be better, which is what this team has been unable to do when your defense has scored almost as many TDs as your offense you have a terrible offense, or an unbelievable defense, in our case it is the former.
You attempt to use reverse logic to support your positions and it does not.

 

[djcon57]

Fades blow

Fades are great....

If your WR is Dez Bryant, Megatron, Julio Jones, etc

We don't have that WR on this team

 

[RF2044]

i know addazio is better than what we have because he at least has some exposure to what a good college offense should be. even if it offends him deep down to his 400 cholesterol core.

but Addazio is just ok. being just ok is good enough in the northeast which makes me insane.

BC is boring and average. Pitt is boring and average. Penn State diddles boys and covers it up. Rutgers sucks and has to travel to Iowa. Maryland has a punchable jackass with terrible offenses. We have more money than we used to. We have better facilities than we used to.

There is opportunity here. It's not like the opportunity we had in the early 90s when BC had gambling problems, Rutgers was nowhere, Paterno was aging and Pitt was hiring 100 year old former greats but it's still an opportunity.

Good post.

 

[TheCusian]

No only scoring points would be better, which is what this team has been unable to do when your defense has scored almost as many TDs as your offense you have a terrible offense, or an unbelievable defense, in our case it is the former. You attempt to use reverse logic to support your positions and it does not.

Silly. You dogged the offense for having a lot of yards and no points. I said it's better than having no yards and no points - at which point you decide I'm trying to use reverse ninjutsu logic or something.

So let's try again - pick one:

More yards, low points
Low yards, low points

I think we can all agree more points is always better.

 

[TheCusian]

No, this is, unfortunately, a series of leadership things. Dabo is the tip of the iceberg.

Leadership things in the public? Or that you know of personally?

 

[SUbear]

Silly. You dogged the offense for having a lot of yards and no points. I said it's better than having no yards and no points - at which point you decide I'm trying to use reverse ninjutsu logic or something.

So let's try again - pick one:

More yards, low points
Low yards, low points

I think we can all agree more points is always better.

Meaningless. Not relevant, do not know how else to say that you are not making any meaningful comments.

 

[TheCusian]

Meaningless. Not relevant, do not know how else to say that you are not making any meaningful comments.

Great. I'll put you in the "don't understand football and/or seems overly negative for no reason" category of poster. (Also treats people poorly and seems stuck in his opinions with no room for disagreement or open dialogue.)