Greetings from Buffalo...

[CuseFaninVT]

If you guys ever want somebody to teach you how to use email, texting or personal messages, all you have to do is ask.

There it is. Knew it was going to happen. I'll try harder next time dad, I swear.

 

[TexanMark]

Ok:

1. I played hockey. This is a nation of people that assume that when you come north to play hockey you are coming to lose. My winning percentage is above 60%. People are generally pompous about it there too.

2. I played hockey with kids who were 2nd generation Americans from Canada. They will openly cheer for Canada over the country in which they reside. I am 3rd generation Irish American. USA over the emerald island every single day.

3. My grandfather married a Canadian 8 months after my grandmother die. That's cool old people get lonely fast I get it. She convinced him to essentially turn his back on his family and adopt hers as his own. She uses her step daughters (my aunts) Adirondack camp as if it were her own(even raises and flies the Canadian flag there). I get this is also on my grandfather but she is the succubus that lured him.

I have more but this is just off the cuff will I'm snowballing.

Snowballing? TMI

 

[kcsu]

Buffalo was always a sad city. The one thing it has going for it is a good Jazz scene yes Jazz

 

[cusetown1]

My wife went to McGill. She's debt free and real smart.

Is she making any coin? That's all that matters with degrees, in all honesty.

 

[cuseinchina]

What year?

2002 at McGill. She's a Uke too so you might have known her.

 

[cuseinchina]

Is she making any coin? That's all that matters with degrees, in all honesty.

Roi on McGill is provably better than Harvard given the low investment up front and the top 10 global reputation. But I married an artist not a banker so her money making years are only just beginning. (So in short..not yet)

 

[SUFan44]

I gotta recommend Gabriel's Gate for any of you visiting Buffalo.

The best wings by far I've had in Buff.

Duffs.

 

[Toga]

Seek asylum elsewhereelsewhere

The French have a different word for like everything.

 

[Trueblue25]

Duffs.

I like Duffs, but in my opinion the Gate's better. I also like the atmosphere a lot more.

 

[tee1222]

What's with the auto likes. I feel like I'm cheating on this thread. :0

Hi.

 

[bnoro]

How is the Canadien diving team doing this time of year?

 

[Trueblue25]

 

[cuseinchina]

I like Duffs, but in my opinion the Gate's better. I also like the atmosphere a lot more.

You don't go to duffs for ambiance. You go there for that 45% tx Pete's /45% franks rh / 10% butter wing sauce. You go because they did it first and they did it right.

 

[CanadianSU]

2002 at McGill. She's a Uke too so you might have known her.

Nice.

 

[JackBauer44]

I spent two years in Buffalo getting my masters degree. As a 21 year old, single man; 4am bars on elmwood & main were some of the best times. I even worked security at a bar in elmwood. Could tell some pretty amazing stories!

 

[OttoMets]

Is she making any coin? That's all that matters with degrees, in all honesty.

Dude, that is not why people go to college.

 

[orangenirvana]

I'm not from Buffalo originally, but been here for a decade now almost after being dragged here by my wife (Buffalo native) and actually like it here. No Buffalo is not exactly a tourist haven and obviously this isn't the ideal time of year for visiting, but there are things to do in Buffalo depending on what you're looking for. Plenty of pretty quality art, theater, architecture. Granted these aren't exactly the things people who are here for college basketball games are dying to see of course. Lots of outdoors/sporting type activites with the lakes and various parks around though again not an ideal time for it. Decent skiing an hour south. Not exactly much of a music scene necessarily, but plenty of bars that stay open until 4am (yeah, that's basically the go to positive argument for Buffalo "but our bars stay open till 4am!!"). Some pretty good ones with expansive beer selections for those beer snobs. Lots of pretty solid restaurants - and no not all focused on wings. There are the aforementioned pro sports though clearly a down year for the Sabres (down millenium thus far for the Bills). Then obviously there is Niagara Falls with it's natural (falls) and man-made (casinos) attractions. Small "casino" in Buffalo near the arena can also provide a gambling fix in a crunch I suppose. Anyway, it's a small city. Anyone who would come here thinking it would be any different than say Syracuse would obviously be disappointed. And to crap on the weather right now is really pretty disingenuous considering it's the same weather every city in the entire northeast is dealing with so not sure it would matter which city you were in this year.

Great post. I love Buffalo. It's always an easy target and one of America's punching bags but I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

 

[cusetown1]

Dude, that is not why people go to college.

So getting a job after college is not why people go ? It sure as hell better be especially if you are paying for it .

 

[MGP]

Also, Kris Joseph and Leo/Andy Rautins.

...and John Karpis & Roger Rollocks...

 

[Millhouse]

Cab drivers and signs? Come on

 

[OttoMets]

So getting a job after college is not why people go ? It sure as hell better be especially if you are paying for it .

As I understand it, college is for learning. The value of those four years can't be quantified.

Vocational schools and graduate programs are for job placement.

 

[cuseinchina]

As I understand it, college is for learning. The value of those four years can't be quantified.

Vocational schools and graduate programs are for job placement.

I think that generally speaking, grad school is the new college when it comes to job training/placement.

But it totally depends, some people come to undergrad knowing just what they want to do and are focused, responsible people ready to set out on a path. A lot of my Syracuse friends in engineering and a few of the newhouse people fit that description. They weren't fuking around, they weren't there to learn how to think, they were there to go after something specific. In the case of the engineers, many were first or second generation college attendees and totally viewed college as a means to an end. Most of the newhouse people were fluffier and though vaguely about doing something involving marketing or writing or thought it would be neat to be on TV, but a few were very focused and have built strong careers doing what they always knew they wanted to do. but a much larger population didn't even start thinking about what they might want to do until JR year and the majority of those are doing something far different than they expected. Far in in excess of 50% of my friends have gone on to grad school

 

[OttoMets]

I think that generally speaking, grad school is the new college when it comes to job training/placement.

But it totally depends, some people come to undergrad knowing just what they want to do and are focused, responsible people ready to set out on a path. A lot of my Syracuse friends in engineering and a few of the newhouse people fit that description. They weren't fuking around, they weren't there to learn how to think, they were there to go after something specific. In the case of the engineers, many were first or second generation college attendees and totally viewed college as a means to an end. Most of the newhouse people were fluffier and though vaguely about doing something involving marketing or writing or thought it would be neat to be on TV, but a few were very focused and have built strong careers doing what they always knew they wanted to do. but a much larger population didn't even start thinking about what they might want to do until JR year and the majority of those are doing something far different than they expected. Far in in excess of 50% of my friends have gone on to grad school

Yeah, that makes sense. I certainly don't mean to say that everyone should go to grad school (or to college); ideally, people would choose whatever vocation they enjoy (hoping it pays the bills) whenever they find it.

I'm just concerned that some view college as a means to end; it should be a great opportunity and experience for those who enjoy learning and want to be exposed to a lot of new and interesting things. If we're evaluating the worth of a degree on the criterion of earning power after graduation, something's wrong.

 

[cusetown1]

. If we're evaluating the worth of a degree on the criterion of earning power after graduation, something's wrong.

If you are paying for it on your own, it would be in your best interest to find a field with "earning power after graduation". If you only plan on going for 4 years chances are it probably wasn't a good investment. Graduate degrees in specialized fields are a good bang for your buck from my experiences.

 

[cuseinchina]

Yeah, that makes sense. I certainly don't mean to say that everyone should go to grad school (or to college); ideally, people would choose whatever vocation they enjoy (hoping it pays the bills) whenever they find it.

I'm just concerned that some view college as a means to end; it should be a great opportunity and experience for those who enjoy learning and want to be exposed to a lot of new and interesting things. If we're evaluating the worth of a degree on the criterion of earning power after graduation, something's wrong.

You've just made the case for the existence of liberal arts colleges. I know I'll be sending my kids to them unless they are totally set on something where there is a big university with that area as a strength.