Home and home scheduled with Maryland...

[JeremyCuse]

I heard the opener was @Alabama.


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Some on this board would welcome that, I dont know what is scarier that fact or the game itself. Any Syracuse fan looking for SU to play Alabama in football should have there head examined.

 

[JeremyCuse]

Bring in a MAC or Sunbelt team in for a payday and go 7-4-1. It works for other schools, pay a premium to buy another home win. FSU, Clemson and Louisville, that's hard enough, go to the bakery and buy more pastry.

The ACC might have to re-think the divisions once Lville comes in, Clemson, FSU and Lville all in the same division is a bit much when you compare it to the Coastal division that has pretty much Miami and Va Tech and Miami hasnt been dominant in a long time.

 

[JeremyCuse]

Where did you get 9/6 for the ND game? ND site says they host Michigan that day, and has the same date Kirbivore mentioned, 9/27 for our game in NYC.

The ND game is 9/27, there was some mention about it last week at Metlife.

 

[HtownOrange]

The ACC might have to re-think the divisions once Lville comes in, Clemson, FSU and Lville all in the same division is a bit much when you compare it to the Coastal division that has pretty much Miami and Va Tech and Miami hasnt been dominant in a long time.

Power shifts will occur. If you balance divisions now, you will have the problem again.

 

[Lou_C]

What can I say, I just don't get it. Syracuse already has four games next year they might go in as double digit underdogs. Why the hell would they schedule Maryland, another game they could easily lose? If they don't beat Maryland, they'll be trying to win six out of the other seven games on the schedule just to go to a crappy bowl. More likely they'll be sitting home while Duke or NC State goes bowling because they know how to schedule.

It's been shown time after time that this is not how you build a program and build interest. I just don't get it. Do what works, not what doesn't work.

 

[LeMoyneCuse]

Not doubting you but what do you have to back that up. SB crushed Army and played with cuse for 3 quarters. I haven't seen Nova show any results like that and I dont count losing by 10 to a terrible BC team as proof.

Stony Brook and Nova play in two weeks, so I'll go off of that.

Nova's QB won freshman of the year last year for 1-AA, and has a pretty good offensive line. What this means for next year? Little.

But my girlfriend is a Nova grad, so I feel inclined to defend them.

 

[JeremyCuse]

What can I say, I just don't get it. Syracuse already has four games next year they might go in as double digit underdogs. Why the hell would they schedule Maryland, another game they could easily lose? If they don't beat Maryland, they'll be trying to win six out of the other seven games on the schedule just to go to a crappy bowl. More likely they'll be sitting home while Duke or NC State goes bowling because they know how to schedule.

It's been shown time after time that this is not how you build a program and build interest. I just don't get it. Do what works, not what doesn't work.

Syracuse has always scheduled tough OOC games whether we were on the rise, in a down period, or a top 25 program. Its likely our other two games will be a 1-AA and a MAC/Sun Belt type team. Combine that with games against Wake, BC, NC State, and probably a team that finishes low in the Coastal this year there should be ample opportunites for wins. Lville will also be replacing Bridgewater and god knows who else.

 

[sutomcat]

Alex Prewitt‏@alex_prewitt49m
Maryland has scheduled a home-and-home with Syracuse for Sept. 20, 2014 at Cuse and Sept. 21, 2019 in College Park.

Excellent. Work done Dr Gross and company...

 

[JeremyCuse]

Stony Brook and Nova play in two weeks, so I'll go off of that.

Nova's QB won freshman of the year last year for 1-AA, and has a pretty good offensive line. What this means for next year? Little.

But my girlfriend is a Nova grad, so I feel inclined to defend them.

Sounds like they are a decent team, but how many graduate off that O line this year? Personally Id rather go the Rutgers way and schedule a 1-AA team that is so bad you almost have to play the fans to lose but we already played Colgate once and that doesn't appear likely to happen again.

 

[cuseguy]

Thought we were really going to schedule a series with Maryland, something in the order of four games or more. I was excited about the prospect of making several trips to Maryland over the next four or five years. Disappointing.

 

[GoSU96]

What can I say, I just don't get it. Syracuse already has four games next year they might go in as double digit underdogs. Why the hell would they schedule Maryland, another game they could easily lose? If they don't beat Maryland, they'll be trying to win six out of the other seven games on the schedule just to go to a crappy bowl. More likely they'll be sitting home while Duke or NC State goes bowling because they know how to schedule.

It's been shown time after time that this is not how you build a program and build interest. I just don't get it. Do what works, not what doesn't work.

1st - ' Maryland and Edsall.
2nd - SU has never scheduled for success. School has always featured multiple BCS conference OOC almost every year.

 

[dasher]

I heard the opener was @Alabama.


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and LSU the next week at Met Life

 

[Lou_C]

Syracuse has always scheduled tough OOC games whether we were on the rise, in a down period, or a top 25 program. Its likely our other two games will be a 1-AA and a MAC/Sun Belt type team. Combine that with games against Wake, BC, NC State, and probably a team that finishes low in the Coastal this year there should be ample opportunites for wins. Lville will also be replacing Bridgewater and god knows who else.

Keep telling yourself that will work out. That's a six win schedule at best. You guys ARE Wake, BC, NC State, "low in Coastal" right now. You're scheduling like you're Clemson.

But sit home while you watch inferior teams go bowling if that's what you want to do, because it's what you've always done, and has been so successful the last decade or so.

Sorry to sound hostile, just disappointed it's taking so long for teams to get this, because it hurts the whole conference.

 

[Bayside44]

Keep telling yourself that will work out. That's a six win schedule at best. You guys ARE Wake, BC, NC State, "low in Coastal" right now. You're scheduling like you're Clemson.

But sit home while you watch inferior teams go bowling if that's what you want to do, because it's what you've always done, and has been so successful the last decade or so.

Sorry to sound hostile, just disappointed it's taking so long for teams to get this, because it hurts the whole conference.

It's Maryland, not Alabama. When you talk about playing cruddy BC programs, Maryland is the blueprint. We'll bring lots of fans and they're gonna be roadkill (like the Vandys and Miss States and others that you reference).

The problems SU had were internal, not our schedule. All of that has been basically fixed.

 

[JeremyCuse]

Keep telling yourself that will work out. That's a six win schedule at best. You guys ARE Wake, BC, NC State, "low in Coastal" right now. You're scheduling like you're Clemson.

But sit home while you watch inferior teams go bowling if that's what you want to do, because it's what you've always done, and has been so successful the last decade or so.

Sorry to sound hostile, just disappointed it's taking so long for teams to get this, because it hurts the whole conference.

What hurts the conference is teams like Wake, BC, NC State and Other scheduling for "success" and barely scraping by to a crap bowl no one outside of Raleigh Durham cares about and does nothing for the perception of the conference. The only thing thats going to help the ACC is football schools scheduling the big boys on a regular basis and hopefully getting a Win like Clemson did last week. You might want to look in the mirror my friend, FSU's schedule has to many Waffords and Citadels and not enough quality OOC games.

 

[JeremyCuse]

Keep telling yourself that will work out. That's a six win schedule at best. You guys ARE Wake, BC, NC State, "low in Coastal" right now. You're scheduling like you're Clemson.

But sit home while you watch inferior teams go bowling if that's what you want to do, because it's what you've always done, and has been so successful the last decade or so.

Sorry to sound hostile, just disappointed it's taking so long for teams to get this, because it hurts the whole conference.

Also just to follow up on this, Syracuse hasn't always been sitting at home watching inferior teams go bowling, you might want to review the 80's 90's and first half of the 2000's. Syracuse's issues the past decade have had almost nothing to do with the schedule and a lot more to do with coaching, talent, and recruiting. Lastly unless I missed something Maryland is still Maryland, not the New England Patriots on Saturday's. They won 3 games last year, sorry were not scheduling Alabama and Texas A&M on back to back weeks like you make it sound.

 

[TexanMark]

Lou: Maryland is a winnable game for us at home. If we can't get by the Terps in the Dome we either suck or Edsall really turned them around.

BTW, I agree we really only need to play one Top 25 Big Boy school OOC yearly, I fit Maryland into the Big Boy team a notch down where we have a decent shot at winning. The other two OOC games better be dreck. SU constantly overschedules...our fickle fans want to see name brands then complain when we finish 5-7.

 

[JeremyCuse]

Lou: Maryland is a winnable game for us at home. If we can't by the Terps in the Dome we either suck or Edsall really turned them around.

BTW, I agree we really only need to play one Top 25 Big Boy school OOC yearly, I fit Maryland into the Big Boy team a notch down where we have a decent shot at winning. The other two OOC games better be dreck. SU constantly overschedules...our fickle fans want to see name brands then complain when we finish 5-7.

One of the other two teams will surely be a 1-A. As for the fourth, that should be a low level Div 1 team but based on Frazier's track record I wouldnt take that as gospel.

 

[orange79]

Some on this board would welcome that, I dont know what is scarier that fact or the game itself. Any Syracuse fan looking for SU to play Alabama in football should have there head examined.

Well, we'll probably HAVE to face them when we play in the NC game.

 

[Lou_C]

Also just to follow up on this, Syracuse hasn't always been sitting at home watching inferior teams go bowling, you might want to review the 80's 90's and first half of the 2000's. Syracuse's issues the past decade have had almost nothing to do with the schedule and a lot more to do with coaching, talent, and recruiting. Lastly unless I missed something Maryland is still Maryland, not the New England Patriots on Saturday's. They won 3 games last year, sorry were not scheduling Alabama and Texas A&M on back to back weeks like you make it sound.

That's fine. But this isn't the 80s and 90s or even the 2000s. I'm an FSU fan, I know that more than anyone.

However, your team doesn't get magically better over night. You'll almost certainly be underdogs to Maryland. It's not that the Maryland game isn't winnable...it's that it's LOSEABLE. Along with three-four other games you'll be deep underdogs, and several more that will be basically even games. And you've got to cobble together six wins out of that.

You are a long way from having the athletes to compete the way you did then. Those athletes aren't lining up to jump on a 5 or 6 win team because of your strength of schedule.

Your program is rebuilding...it's not rebuilt. It CAN rebuild, but this isn't the way to go about that.

But we've had this discussion in FSU circles around and around, that don't understand why FSU's four out of conference games aren't Nebraska, USC, Texas and UF.

People have a blind spot on this, but it's not debatable rationally. The blueprint is there and it plays out year after year. Again, point out one team since FSU in the 1970s that built into a power program by difficult scheduling on a yearly basis OOC. And I'll give you a bunch that did it by scheduling light until they established themselves, and well after.

 

[Alsacs]

Sorry I got the ND date game wrong its 9-27-14. Thanks Jeremy

 

[Alsacs]

Bees was obviously joking about Alabama as they are in the Chick-Fil-A Kickoff against West Virginia in Atlanta in their opener. Louisville will host the Labor Day game next year most likely like Pitt this year. Florida State won't be the opponent like this year since they are playing Oklahoma State in the Cowboys Classic and Clemson is @Maryland this year so they won't play @Louisville next Labor Day I would bet NC State or a Coastal team @Louisville is the season opener. I think SU will; host Villanova 8-30-14 and Nole Lou we play tough OOC opponents because they help draw interest and unlike Rutgers type programs feel playing better name opponents is better than beating directional colleges even though it causes more losses.

 

[HtownOrange]

That's fine. But this isn't the 80s and 90s or even the 2000s. I'm an FSU fan, I know that more than anyone.

However, your team doesn't get magically better over night. You'll almost certainly be underdogs to Maryland. It's not that the Maryland game isn't winnable...it's that it's LOSEABLE. Along with three-four other games you'll be deep underdogs, and several more that will be basically even games. And you've got to cobble together six wins out of that.

You are a long way from having the athletes to compete the way you did then. Those athletes aren't lining up to jump on a 5 or 6 win team because of your strength of schedule.

Your program is rebuilding...it's not rebuilt. It CAN rebuild, but this isn't the way to go about that.

But we've had this discussion in FSU circles around and around, that don't understand why FSU's four out of conference games aren't Nebraska, USC, Texas and UF.

People have a blind spot on this, but it's not debatable rationally. The blueprint is there and it plays out year after year. Again, point out one team since FSU in the 1970s that built into a power program by difficult scheduling on a yearly basis OOC. And I'll give you a bunch that did it by scheduling light until they established themselves, and well after.

More often than not scheduling Cream Puff U. fails to become truly elite. Rutgers is an obvious example. VATech is another. Rarely does VATech win the big games essentially because they play soft schedules.

Syracuse historically schedules harder schedules but we don't usually seek to scheule Alabama, Notre Dame, LSU, Texas, USC, Ohio State and Michigan as our only OOC games. We just try to keep it respectable; at least one high profile, one easy, one MAC and another BCS conference middle to lower end.

 

[Chris02M]

how about we play at northern Illinois next year and have them come to the dome in 2015 and another year in the next 10

 

[All4SU]

So our updated 2014 schedule

Notre Dame Metlife Stadium 9-6-2014
Maryland 9-20-2014
Villanova- is the 1-AA somebody on this board told me that ideally this game is 8-30-2014
TBA
our conference schedule
@Boston College
@Clemson
@Pittsburgh
@Wake Forest
Duke
Florida State
Louisville
NC State

With only 1 opening and 6 home games, 4 road games, and 1 semi-road game against Notre Dame our 12th game will likely be a road game.

If we can get Army added to that, we are golden. If not, go for a MAC and we're done.