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How do we feel about the state of the program now?

so you only want posters who have orange colored glass's

maybe the reason things havent gone well is because too many always look at everything as aok no matter how bad

had 2 good seasons in the last 12-15- yet you complain about those sick and tired of it- not about whats wrong still

if not for the acc taking us over other schools - our football program would all but be dead -

you constantly talk about how great the lastest recruiting class is - always talking about the next class being the one- a decade of it -gets old
 
15 years - Well no one thinks the greg robinson era was good so lets take that out. Ill tell you what though. When they got rid of P I said I would support the team. So lets set a more realistic bar. of say 10 years.

Marrone turned the program around until he left. (People wanted it but complained)
We have built an IPF (People wanted it but complained)
We moved to ACC (People wanted it but complained)
Have had profile games in NYC
New uniforms . (People wanted it but complained) (Except the we should wear only 1 uniform ever crowd)
Marrone left and our first year coach took us to a bowl. (People wanted it but complained)
Our new staff has reinvigorated the recruiting here. it may be slow but its going forward. (People wanted it but complained)

Aside from record alone what would make anyone think its been so negative. Maybe everyones expectations should be leveled with the REALITY of the here and now and the future. Not the past.

Who gives a . . ite about last year. Im on to this year. Im actually just so fired up this post doesn't make since likely. But I don't care Im fed up with it.
perfect example- take out the great guru years to make your point-

screw the facts alter to fit your needs - sounds like the govt
 
so you only want posters who have orange colored glass's

maybe the reason things havent gone well is because too many always look at everything as aok no matter how bad

had 2 good seasons in the last 12-15- yet you complain about those sick and tired of it- not about whats wrong still

if not for the acc taking us over other schools - our football program would all but be dead -

you constantly talk about how great the lastest recruiting class is - always talking about the next class being the one- a decade of it -gets old
Pointing out what's wrong is all well and good, if it's done constructively. Seemingly, most who complain do nothing more than that. The seemingly incessant bitching gets old, too.
 
so you only want posters who have orange colored glass's

maybe the reason things havent gone well is because too many always look at everything as aok no matter how bad

had 2 good seasons in the last 12-15- yet you complain about those sick and tired of it- not about whats wrong still

if not for the acc taking us over other schools - our football program would all but be dead -

you constantly talk about how great the lastest recruiting class is - always talking about the next class being the one- a decade of it -gets old
Because someone does not come here and complain about everything does not mean everything is "aok" to them. Complaining gets real old.
 
so its doesnt get old doing nothing but patting each other on the back for posts about how great its going-

our national perception is lower than rutgers- if that doesnt speek volumes -too many are deaf
 
perfect example- take out the great guru years to make your point-

screw the facts alter to fit your needs - sounds like the govt
People have driven a fan out of here with all the bitching. The thing speaks for itself. Instead of harassment, how about stopping and thinking about it...maybe bitching doesn't help much.
 
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tell me whats so wrong you need to post about it constantly.

Shafer? Guy has been here as head coach 2 years. His first year he had to scrap together a recruiting class and hold the team together. Oh ya they went to a bowl and won.
Marrone? Had to inherit the grob mess and did what in his 4 years besides two 8 win seasons and two bowl wins.

So in the last 7 years (Better sampling)

Coaching change
4-8 Off GROB MESS
8-5 BOWL WIN
5-7 Certainly under achieved a bit and didn't finish well (though were off to best start in some time)
8-5 BOWL WIN
Coaching change.
7-5 BOWL WIN
3-9 SINGE WORST SEASON OF INJURIES IVE EVER SEEN


3 not so good years spread though the 6 but never consecutively.
3 bowl wins.

Could it be better sure. Is it the toilet bowl. Cmon man.
 
rosconey - you are an a s s h o l e that is my final assumption. ban me delete this whatever I could care less. but no one comes here to read this negative bull__T
 
tell me whats so wrong you need to post about it constantly.

Shafer? Guy has been here as head coach 2 years. His first year he had to scrap together a recruiting class and hold the team together. Oh ya they went to a bowl and won.
Marrone? Had to inherit the grob mess and did what in his 4 years besides two 8 win seasons and two bowl wins.

So in the last 7 years (Better sampling)

Coaching change
4-8 Off GROB MESS
8-5 BOWL WIN
5-7 Certainly under achieved a bit and didn't finish well (though were off to best start in some time)
8-5 BOWL WIN
Coaching change.
7-5 BOWL WIN
3-9 SINGE WORST SEASON OF INJURIES IVE EVER SEEN


3 not so good years spread though the 6 but never consecutively.
3 bowl wins.

Could it be better sure. Is it the toilet bowl. Cmon man.
Great post about "how great its going". I give you a pat on the back for that.
 
rosconey said:
so its doesnt get old doing nothing but patting each other on the back for posts about how great its going- our national perception is lower than rutgers- if that doesnt speek volumes -too many are deaf

Being positive doesn't mean ignoring the problems or not talking about them.

Example: "The staff sure us dealing with the talent gap in the ACC by getting better recruits. Maybe not great across the board - but some of these guys are players."

Negative poster, let's call him rAsconey: "We suck. Our players suck. Why would they choose Syracuse over Rutgers?!?"
 
why is the last 7 years a better sampling?

amazing how you guys can just dismiss it so you can defend your opinion
 
Being positive doesn't mean ignoring the problems or not talking about them.

Example: "The staff sure us dealing with the talent gap in the ACC by getting better recruits. Maybe not great across the board - but some of these guys are players."

Negative poster, let's call him rAsconey: "We suck. Our players suck. Why would they choose Syracuse over Rutgers?!?"
so were did i say that -

come on show me or shut up
 
rosconey said:
why is the last 7 years a better sampling? amazing how you guys can just dismiss it so you can defend your opinion

The current HC and most of the players and staff weren't here in those jobs just 3 years ago. So using "a history of sucking" is stupid.
 
The current HC and most of the players and staff weren't here in those jobs just 3 years ago. So using "a history of sucking" is stupid.
lol- just remove the great guru era because it looks better that way
 
rosconey said:
so were did i say that - come on show me or shut up

It was an example of how to say something positive while not ignoring the underlying issue. I can't help you if you don't want to be helped. Admitting you have a problem is the first step to getting better.
 
rosconey said:
lol- just remove the great guru era because it looks better that way

What does he have to do with 2015!?!
 
rosconey - you are an a s s h o l e that is my final assumption. ban me delete this whatever I could care less. but no one comes here to read this negative bull__T
you made my point- you want everyone to have your opinion - or they are wrong
 
national perception is we are what rutgers was- and i dont have the right to be pissed?
 
national perception is we are what rutgers was- and i dont have the right to be pissed?

If we suck so bad, why do you even bother being here? Do have ANYTHING positive to say about the program, at all?
 
rosconey said:
national perception is we are what rutgers was- and i dont have the right to be pissed?

What good does it do?
 
national perception is we are what rutgers was- and i dont have the right to be pissed?

You have every right to be pissed if that's how you feel. I think what others are saying, however, is that people are tired of hearing about your outrage every time something remotely positive is said about the program. Dealing with chronically negative people is exhausting.
 

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