How many future NBAers are on our current roster?

[STEVEHOLT]

Dennis Rodman wasn't 7'. His chances are very slim but if his motor is more consistent anything is possible. It depends on how much he wants it.

yeah, lets compare him to the greatest offensive rebounder of all time.

 

[HarrisonJBounel]

Keeping it real. None. Being a good college player does not equate to making the NBA. Some overseas, maybe G in the D league. Mali has the physical tools, but he would have to improve his skills a lot. Lydon isn't quick enough. Cooney doesn't shoot well enough and doesn't have NBA handles. Roberson not skilled enough or big enough. Frankie doesn't have an NBA shot.

We're all enjoying this run, but let's not get ahead of ourselves.

 

[Melancer46]

It seems pro evaluators think much more of Lydon AND Mali than some of you on here. Although I have seen them move up and down, I have seen Mali projected in the Lottery and Lydon as a 1st rounder. If they improve, I can't see them not considered as picks. If they are a first round pick, they have a guaranteed contract. That says NBA roster to me. Next year will be the time the rubber meets the road.

Where have you seen Mali in the lottery? I have not seen any site that has him as an NBA prospect right now. If this year's draft only included freshman, DraftExpress has him on the border of being undrafted.

Personally, I think G gets taken in the late 2nd but not sure he sticks anywhere. Mali just isn't a prospect at the moment but could be depending on how he develops. The only guy that's really a 1st round caliber prospect right now is Lydon and I'm still unsure of him at the next level as well.

 

[cliftonparksufan]

yeah, lets compare him to the greatest offensive rebounder of all time.

I said his chances are very slim which equates to less than 2% but think back to when Dennis Rodman was 21 years old. I'm sure no one even expected him to make the YMCA league at that point.

 

[QUSE]

Malachi & Lydon are close to locks for the NBA;
G has 60% chance to make a roster I would say;
Frank's chance totally depends on his shooting, if he can shoot like G by year 4 then he's lock too, remember he's the youngest freshman, only 18.
Paschal Chukwu has a decent chance just by his sheer size alone, he just needs one Fab soph year like season to make it.

The other guys have 0 chance.

 

[alphaorange]

Where have you seen Mali in the lottery? I have not seen any site that has him as an NBA prospect right now. If this year's draft only included freshman, DraftExpress has him on the border of being undrafted.

Personally, I think G gets taken in the late 2nd but not sure he sticks anywhere. Mali just isn't a prospect at the moment but could be depending on how he develops. The only guy that's really a 1st round caliber prospect right now is Lydon and I'm still unsure of him at the next level as well.

Where did I say this year? nbadraft had him at 10 for '17...not he is at #17. Much will change in another year or two. As far as I can tell, nobody says they have to go this year to be successful in the league.

 

[alphaorange]

Malachi & Lydon are close to locks for the NBA;
G has 60% chance to make a roster I would say;
Frank's chance totally depends on his shooting, if he can shoot like G by year 4 then he's lock too, remember he's the youngest freshman, only 18.
Paschal Chukwu has a decent chance just by his sheer size alone, he just needs one Fab soph year like season to make it.

The other guys have 0 chance.

Disagree on Howard's chances being dependent on his shooting. He has very good size for an NBA PG. Shooting is not the end all. There are many so-so/poor shooting PGs in the league. It depends on the rest of his game and the teams needs.

 

[pfister1]

moten, wallace, christmas, and rautins all made nba rosters.

I guess I was thinking made a roster and spent a lot of time with the team actually on the active roster.

I was really wrong about John Wallace and Moten. I guess I was thinking about how JDubs slipped on draft day, but in reality he had a relatively long NBA career getting significant playing time over 7 seasons. Moten I just don't remember him having played in the NBA, but he got decent run for two seasons including starting 18 games in his second season. Maybe it was because he got shipped off to Vancouver that I don't recall it?

On the other hand;

Rautins appeared in a total of 5 games in one season.

Christmas has spent most of the season in the D-League, although he may be under contract and is officially a rostered player. He doesn't even appear in the Pacers stats on their webpage.

 

[upperdeck]

to me we have 0-1. might get one that makes a roster if someone takes a flyer on potential in lydon on a year or 2. maybe someone has the same start as xmas and goes back and forth from the D league. Silent G has the NBA body though and has improved every year so he has a decent shot.

 

[longislandcuse]

It's not overstating or hyping our own guys at all to say 3 guys on this team will get drafted and given a chance in the NBA.

G is going to be a 2nd, maybeeeee late 1st round pick.

Mali and Lydon will be playing next year as projected 1st round picks. That's not us just saying that, that's projection sites, scouts and coaches.

Howard and Roberson are unknowns.

Roberson is too undersized but could be given a look if he can develop a jumpshot due to his insane rebounding ability.

Howard is too young/inexperienced to project. He's clearly a very promising pure point guard prospect and at 6'4 has good size.

Coleman and Cooney are guys who will be playing overseas if they decide to keep playing.

I think this is a team that we could look back and say, man, that team actually had a lot of good players on it.

 

[DNABB5]

We also tend to overvalue the talent of our guys. We clearly have multiple guys that will play professionally.

Do we have guys that will make an NBA roster? Well that is highly debatable and, if I were betting, I think the smart money is on us having none.

Think about the guys who have been through this program and not made NBA rosters (Christmas, Rautins, Fair, Moten, Wallace, Shumpert and Gmac)...you have to be really, really, really good.

Wallace played for 7 seasons?

Moten for three I think.

Rautins for a cup of coffee.

Point still accurate, it is hard to be a professional NBA player.

 

[QUSE]

Disagree on Howard's chances being dependent on his shooting. He has very good size for an NBA PG. Shooting is not the end all. There are many so-so/poor shooting PGs in the league. It depends on the rest of his game and the teams needs.

Serviceable shooting from the guard position in the NBA pretty much means above average shooting at the college level, right now Frank is not even close to that. Just look at our guys in the league, both Dion and MCW are struggling right now because of their inconsistent shooting, which dragged down their offensive efficiency. Years ago I would agree with you, but this isn't a league where you can play 4 vs 5 on offense anymore.

 

[LAOrange]

Roberson had 9 offensive boards last night and probably an equal number of tips. Sabonis had 7 and he's the seventh best in the NCAA. Tyler Roberson has the potential to be the best offensive rebounder in the NCAA next year. That said, if he develops his mid-range game over the summer. He will be an absolute star. As a double-double guy, he makes the NBA.

 

[Melancer46]

I think Mali needs some massive improvements to be considered as a first round pick. He's going to be 21 next season and he's an inefficient scorer that doesn't do anything else well in terms of NBA potential. I think it's possible he makes the improvements but I certainly wouldn't count on it. He has a long ways to go.

 

[Melancer46]

Roberson had 9 offensive boards last night and probably an equal number of tips. Sabonis had 7 and he's the seventh best in the NCAA. Tyler Roberson has the potential to be the best offensive rebounder in the NCAA next year. That said, if he develops his mid-range game over the summer. He will be an absolute star. As a double-double guy, he makes the NBA.

What exactly gives you any hope that he develops his jump shot at this point? If anything, he's progressively grown less and less confident in his shooting.

 

[longislandcuse]

Dakich back at it again with the "no NBA players aside from G".

Is he only talking about this year? In which case, yes, only G because Lydon and Mali are possible Lottery Picks next year. So maybe this argument is semantics?? Otherwise, I don't know what he's talking about.

Also, he really doesn't sound smart. Whoever said that is dead on. He can't keep games straight and keeps saying bizarre things. We were playing Kansas Sunday for his entire segment last night on Sportscenter.

 

[longislandcuse]

I think Mali needs some massive improvements to be considered as a first round pick. He's going to be 21 next season and he's an inefficient scorer that doesn't do anything else well in terms of NBA potential. I think it's possible he makes the improvements but I certainly wouldn't count on it. He has a long ways to go.

I think Mali is going to beast on people next year. He reminds me of those Kentucky 2Gs that always get drafted high.

 

[Melancer46]

I think Mali is going to beast on people next year. He reminds me of those Kentucky 2Gs that always get drafted high.

I hope so. There's just no way a 21 year old sophomore shooting under 40% from the field gets drafted, much less is a lotto pick. He needs to become wayyyyy better at everything outside of 3 point shooting.

 

[LAOrange]

What exactly gives you any hope that he develops his jump shot at this point? If anything, he's progressively grown less and less confident in his shooting.

I'm an optimist. I didn't stop learning at 21 either.

 

[longislandcuse]

I hope so. There's just no way a 21 year old sophomore shooting under 40% from the field gets drafted, much less is a lotto pick. He needs to become wayyyyy better at everything outside of 3 point shooting.

Agreed. I think he will.

Richardson and Lydon on the wings next year is going to be something to watch.

 

[TheCusian]

For sure, 2. G, I'm afraid he might a get Kris Joseph look here. Mali for sure. Lydon. Listen, dude has game, but he needs to show a heck of a lot more than he does. He's not an NBA 3, he'll never guard a 3 in the NBA. He needs to be a big boy and keep the same game and play the 4 there. He has a long way to go, example, the game today. His defense and his tentivness will hold him back.

If all he has to overcome is tentativeness, he'll be fine. Positions don't matter as much in the modern NBA as being well rounded, big, and able to shoot.

Lydon and MR have the highest NBA upside.

 

[TheCusian]

He doesn't take anybody off the dribble. If he is somewhat successful doing it the guy is always still on him and he doesn't make the basket or passes it away. Today's game should be an absolute showing of what he needs to work on. We saw two guys that have somewhat similar games to Lydon and they're literally light years ahead of him. I'm not sure that can be debated.

That's his most underdeveloped part of his game. But he has post moves, a really, really nice shooting stroke, can rebound, block shots, and is pretty athletic.

If he masters the dribble drive? Sheeeeesh. NBA.

 

[alphaorange]

Serviceable shooting from the guard position in the NBA pretty much means above average shooting at the college level, right now Frank is not even close to that. Just look at our guys in the league, both Dion and MCW are struggling right now because of their inconsistent shooting, which dragged down their offensive efficiency. Years ago I would agree with you, but this isn't a league where you can play 4 vs 5 on offense anymore.

Ricky Rubio, Rajon Rondo, and Ty Lawson say "hi". And even more to the point, how do you know what kind of shooter Howard will be? The form on his jump shot is pretty good, plus he was a combo guard in HS and was projected as such. Dion's shot isn't the only thing holding him back and neither is MCW's shot. They both have other holes in their games. Maybe you'll be right but you have zero way of knowing that at this point.

 

[Quazzum69]

He is right: one regular NBA player at most. Most future NBA players are killing it as freshmen/sophomores, which ours are not exactly doing. G is great but he is a 23 year old senior veteran. If was a sure-thing he would be gone by now.

If there were 2-3 future NBA players the team would be a lot better. The last time we had multiple legitimate NBA players we were the best team in the country.

 

[Quazzum69]

I ask this question because Dan Dakich, who for whatever reason has had a bone to pick with SU for the past couple of seasons, said after tonight's game that the only NBAer on the team is possibly Gbinije.

I don't know if Dakich is extra salty tonight because his beloved Hoosiers were curb stomped, but he came off as being very poorly-informed.

Isn't that a compliment to Boeheim and the team? If they have no obvious NBA talent, let alone multiple first-rounders like your Dukes or Kentuckys, after being handicapped by the NCAA and as a 10 seed be in the elite eight, that shows tremendous coaching and teamwork.