Hubert Davis Seat is Less Hot Than Autry on 2/12/2025

[sufan59]

I love Hodgson’s upside but he might be a bit risky because he doesn’t have much of a track record yet. As you pointed out, Kelsey and Oats were proven commodities at the mid major level and had been to the NCAA tourney multiple times. You could also put Danny Hurley in that box. But on the other hand, we could be getting him before he really blows up. I also like Ben McCollum at Drake, who’s won National championships (albeit in D2).

I get the concern. I think the expectations and the initial contract would have to consider all of those things if it were to happen. I also think you have several candidates out there with the resources that can get us back to success pretty quickly, but also who can get us back to success and could be here for 15+ years. I think that’s what Hodgson sets himself apart from the rest.

 

[orangecuse]

Last night sucked and all that but Miami did look way better than 1-11.

Hell yeah, looks can certainly be deceiving...especially when one has something to do with that!

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

No one on this board knows the details of the contract and no one at SU would share those. So, who knows. The only thing that is hinted at is firing Red would have A cost associated with it and that SU is generally conservative with money.

Except when it comes to inking long-term deals for coaches that have dubious qualifications, apparently.

 

[capeorange]

I love Hodgson’s upside, but sure he might be a bit risky because he doesn’t have much of a track record yet. As you pointed out, Kelsey and Oats were proven commodities at the mid major level and had been to the NCAA tourney multiple times. You could also put Danny Hurley in that box. But on the other hand, we could be getting him before he really blows up. I like that bet.

I also like Ben McCollum at Drake, who’s won National championships (albeit in D2).

Based on JW's last 2 coaching hires, I don't think he shares our concerns about a track record as a qualifier.

 

[RF2044]

I love Hodgson’s upside, but sure he might be a bit risky because he doesn’t have much of a track record yet. As you pointed out, Kelsey and Oats were proven commodities at the mid major level and had been to the NCAA tourney multiple times. You could also put Danny Hurley in that box. But on the other hand, we could be getting him before he really blows up. I like that bet.

I also like Ben McCollum at Drake, who’s won National championships (albeit in D2).

McCollum from Drake would be an absolute grand slam hire.

I don't think he'll be at Drake long, and I think we'd have LOTS of competition to land him, which might not work in our favor.

 

[hoopsupstate]

Wow. This guy is going to be someplace big next season. Probably someone we get boatraced by, alas.

All those quotes comes from coaches website. You wouldn’t expect anything but glowing remarks.

 

[hoopsupstate]

No one on this board knows the details of the contract and no one at SU would share those. So, who knows. The only thing that is hinted at is firing Red would have A cost associated with it and that SU is generally conservative with money.

I doubt Red is much over $2 million, tops. JB was only making slightly over $2.8 million.

 

[Cuse4455]

McCollum from Drake would be an absolute grand slam hire.

I don't think he'll be at Drake long, and I think we'd have LOTS of competition to land him, which might not work in our favor.

Yep...yes he is a Midwest guy, but everywhere he's coached they've won. He's 23-2 in his first season at Drake. Has a .82% coaching record, he's won 4 D2 championships in the last 10 years. He can find guys with northeast ties to help acclimate to the NE. Winners win, doesn't matter where they come from.

 

[cusefan88]

McCollum from Drake would be an absolute grand slam hire.

I don't think he'll be at Drake long, and I think we'd have LOTS of competition to land him, which might not work in our favor.

I think Iowa lands him with McCaffrey probably retiring this year. Or obviously Indiana. He's a Midwest guy.

 

[im4cuse]

But you still have to buyout our coach. Not happening.

We did it with Dino. If someone is crazy enough to hire him the price goes down like with Dino.
We have ONE chance here to get a rising star.

 

[Cappy3]

We did it with Dino. If someone is crazy enough to hire him the price goes down like with Dino.
We have ONE chance here to get a rising star.

Dunno. There will always be another “rising star”.

 

[Sherman20]

I wonder if Donnie goes where Hodgson goes this offseason??

Why do we always have to be behind the 8-ball? Let’s just hire Hodgson this offseason and be done with it.

 

[IthacaMatt]

I'm sick of hearing outside the Cuse family talk. After almost 50 years of Boeheim, the only viable HC candidates have been Autry (stinks), Hopkins (stunk), Gmac (tbd), and Jason Hart.

Having a Cuse connected candidate suggest there's a huge network when really that is not the case. It's just not a thing to me personally and is incredibly limiting.

You left out Pitino.

 

[cusefan88]

You left out Pitino.

I guess. Two seasons 50 years ago lol. But yes you're right.

 

[IthacaMatt]

Really?

Tell me - did he have any prior experience as a head coach? We didn't even do a search, we promoted someone who is obviously unqualified from in-house to save money and check the box on this hire. Is he doing any of the coaching part of the job well? Do you even understand what he's trying to do with this team, because it doesn't seem like the players understand what he wants them to do, either.

 

[Nicknack]

The last line in the article about Red says it all...

"SU should have seen enough to know it needs a better coach by now."

We know what we have.

 

[donniesyracuse]

Tell me - did he have any prior experience as a head coach? We didn't even do a search, we promoted someone who is obviously unqualified from in-house to save money and check the box on this hire. Is he doing any of the coaching part of the job well? Do you even understand what he's trying to do with this team, because it doesn't seem like the players understand what he wants them to do, either.

It is a bad analogy to make at this time.

 

[MSOrange]

UNC hires longtime NBA agent Tanner as GM

Longtime NBA agent Jim Tanner has been hired at UNC as general manager for men's basketball, after coach Hubert Davis said the "old model for Carolina basketball just doesn't work."

www.espn.com

 

[PoppyHart]

UNC hires longtime NBA agent Tanner as GM

Longtime NBA agent Jim Tanner has been hired at UNC as general manager for men's basketball, after coach Hubert Davis said the "old model for Carolina basketball just doesn't work."

www.espn.com

Former protege of Lon Babby

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[kingtidge]

Glad it's just not us, LOL.

 

[Sherman20]

I think Iowa lands him with McCaffrey probably retiring this year. Or obviously Indiana. He's a Midwest guy.

Iowa isn’t exactly a good job. Syracuse is vastly more appealing.

 

[richmondcuse03]

Glad it's just not us, LOL.

We can easily move on from Red if we decide to next year. I honestly think we could this year but we don’t fire coaches after two years.

 

[IthacaMatt]

Iowa isn’t exactly a good job. Syracuse is vastly more appealing.

If you're from that part of the country, Iowa has a lot of history.

They've had some great coaches - Lute Olsen, George Raveling, Tom Davis (formerly of BC), and Fran McCaffrey is doing a very good job there, and has been there for quite a while.

Looking on Wikipedia, I see they were in back-to-back Final Fours in the 1950s, and lost to Bill Russell's San Francisco team in the Championship game. And they made a Final Four in 1980, beating the Louie and Bouie senior year team along the way.

I remember in more recent times, they had some great players like Roy Marble, Greg Stokes, Acie Earl and Ronnie Lester. They had a really good PG on those Marble teams, too, but I'm forgetting his name. Was it B.J. Armstrong, or was that a different era?

 

[cusefan88]

Iowa isn’t exactly a good job. Syracuse is vastly more appealing.

If you're from Iowa/Midwest like McCullom is I don't know if I agree.

I'm sure Indiana is considering him too.